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Has the 100 year Jihad (war) begun ... ???

Well Rudd believed they could have a more humane immigration policy and still control the borders, obviously this policy failed and was a major contributing factor to the demise of the Labor government. Considering the political suicide of failing to control the borders it's a lot more plausible than your theory Gillard intended to open the borders to create division in society.

So a couple of questions for you then, how many of the 50k were Muslims? How many of those went on to become Australian citizens?

Am pretty sure wanting to tax the miners and carbon taxing industries play a bigger part than refugees.
 
Am pretty sure wanting to tax the miners and carbon taxing industries play a bigger part than refugees.

Agree on the carbon tax but not the mining tax. News corp ran a very vocal campaign about the influx of boats, it become a major political topic amongst the public. Why do you think that the 'stop the boats' catch phrase was so prominent during the election campaign by Abbott?
 
There's an interesting docu giving some context into the current ISIS problem and Iraq 3: Operation Inherent Resolve - PBS Frontline: Losing Iraq.



It might just be more of a civil war than a death cult wanting world domination.
 
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Agree on the carbon tax but not the mining tax. News corp ran a very vocal campaign about the influx of boats, it become a major political topic amongst the public. Why do you think that the 'stop the boats' catch phrase was so prominent during the election campaign by Abbott?

Yea, but people don't really decide, industry do :p
 
Britain may use mediaeval treason law to tackle Islamist fighters


LONDON, Oct 17 (Reuters) - Britain may use a mediaeval law dating to 1351 to charge citizens with treason if they go to fight with Islamic State insurgents in Iraq and Syria, Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond said.

Prime Minister David Cameron has warned that Islamic State, whose fighters have seized large areas of Syria and Iraq, pose a grave threat to Britain while police and intelligence officers say they have seen a rise in potentially deadly plots.

Security officials say some 500 Britons - largely with Muslim immigrant backgrounds - are believed to be fighting in Iraq and Syria, though the true figure could be much greater and security officials worry that those who return could carry out an attack on Britain.

Hammond said any British citizen who had sworn personal allegiance to the so-called Islamic State could have committed an offence under the Treason Act of 1351, which was passed during the reign of English King Edward III.


http://www.trust.org/item/20141017111739-zabde/
 
Unfortunately my cousin was converted by his fellow friends to islam. Actually we are the same age and were in the same year at school. You cannot argue or win any debate with these people.

You state facts. They state the koran says this or that. These people do not care about this life. For them the "after life" is all that matters. There mission is to take over the whole god damn world.

My whole nation was slaughtered by muslims at the very turn of the 20th century just because we were christians. Actually it was the first genocide of the 20th century which is still being denied.

As I told my cousin, if your aim is to create an islamic state of any kind (which most muslims want, discretely ofcourse)meaning that others cant have the freedom of choice, be accepted for their opinions (muslim=opression) then that person is the enemy.

There is a man at my dads work. His brother was murdered for preaching Christianity overseas by muslims. Who the f does that.
 
Disclaimer* I dont care what religion you are. If your way of living doesnt compromise freedom of speech/opinion etc then we are all good.
 
It is high time we did the same thing here.......Muslims either accept our way of life or go back to where they came from......we do not need their customs or Sharia law....they have to abide by our laws.

MAYOR REFUSES TO REMOVE PORK FROM SCHOOL CANTEEN- MENU - EXPLAINS WHY

Muslim parents demanded the abolition of pork in all the school canteens of Ath in Belgium .

Marc Duvivier the mayor of Ath, has refused, and the town clerk sent a note to all parents to explain why.

“Muslims must understand that they have to adapt to Belgium , its customs, its traditions, its way of life, because that's where they chose to immigrate.

They must understand that they have to integrate and learn to live in Belgium .

They must understand that it is for them to change their lifestyle, not the Belgians who so generously welcomed them.

They must understand that the Athois are neither racist nor xenophobic, they accepted many immigrants before Muslims (whereas the reverse is true that Muslims do not accept non-Muslim foreigners on their soil) except as temporary workers in the oil fields and in construction.

That no more than other nations, the Belgians are not willing to give up their identity, their culture.

And if Belgium is a land of welcome, it's not Marc Duvivier that welcomes foreigners, but the Belgian people as a whole.

Finally, they must understand that in Belgium with its Judeo-Christian roots, Christmas trees, churches and religious festivals, religion must remain in the private domain. The municipality of Ath was right to refuse any concessions to Islam and Sharia.

For Muslims that disagree with secularism and do not feel comfortable in Belgium , there are 57 beautiful Muslim countries in the world, most of them under-populated and ready to receive them with open halal arms in accordance with Shariah.

If you left your country for Belgium , and not for other Muslim countries, it is because you have considered that life is better in Belgium than elsewhere.

Ask yourself the question, just once, “Why is it better here in Belgium than where you come from?”

A canteen with pork is part of the answer.
 
Good to see the wannabe head loppin', kid Fayez is back in school after his dad went to Syria and dragged him back home. Imagine the great adventure he can tell his muslim cohorts at East Hills Boys High School. Those whacky teenagers... you gotta laugh at their antics!!!
 
Most of the problem lies with the children. We all need to live for a great cause or one worth dedicating oursepves to.

Now when you are a failure at school, or dont have a big passion worth pursuing then I think thats when these kids get lured into being a hero and being praised etc etc by god/others etc.

If they were satisfied individuals with what they had then this stuff wouldnt be an issue.
 
It is high time we did the same thing here.......Muslims either accept our way of life or go back to where they came from......we do not need their customs or Sharia law....they have to abide by our laws.

MAYOR REFUSES TO REMOVE PORK FROM SCHOOL CANTEEN- MENU - EXPLAINS WHY

Here we go again.......

Outline
Circulating message features a strident letter supposedly sent to parents by Marc Duvivier, the mayor of the Belgium municipality of Ath, explaining why he refused to give in to demands from local Muslims to remove pork from school canteen menus.

Brief Analysis
The claims in the message are untrue. It is a hoax that first began circulating in 2013. No such letter was ever sent to parents. And Mayor Marc Duvivier has stated that the municipality never received any demands or requests to ban pork from canteens and the issue was never even discussed. Sharing this hoax will do nothing other than foster bigotry and hatred against Muslim members of the community.


http://www.hoax-slayer.com/hoax-belgium-mayor-refuses-remove-pork-school-canteen.shtml

Also:

http://snopes.com/politics/religion/belgiumpork.asp
 
Sorry, a bit late on this one...

Attack on Ottawa: PM Harper cites terrorist motive

The attack on Parliament Hill’s Centre Block and the National War Memorial has left one Canadian soldier and one male suspect dead.

During an address to the nation, Prime Minster Stephen Harper said the incident in Ottawa was a 'terrorist' act. Mr. Harper also indicated that it remains unclear whether the man shot dead on Parliament Hill Wednesday acted alone.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/breaking-news-oct-22/article21217602/?click=sf_globe#dashboard/follows/
 
Most of the problem lies with the children. We all need to live for a great cause or one worth dedicating oursepves to.

Now when you are a failure at school, or dont have a big passion worth pursuing then I think thats when these kids get lured into being a hero and being praised etc etc by god/others etc.

If they were satisfied individuals with what they had then this stuff wouldnt be an issue.

I think that's very true. Youth is the age where we all want to do something "great", full of dreams and idealism and when there are no opportunities to direct those rebellious drive and ambition, no proper guidance from family... people could be taken advantage of and be persuaded to do others' bidding. Some volunteer for the UN and World Vision, others goes on Crusades and Jihads.
 
Here we go again.......

Outline
Circulating message features a strident letter supposedly sent to parents by Marc Duvivier, the mayor of the Belgium municipality of Ath, explaining why he refused to give in to demands from local Muslims to remove pork from school canteen menus.

Brief Analysis
The claims in the message are untrue. It is a hoax that first began circulating in 2013. No such letter was ever sent to parents. And Mayor Marc Duvivier has stated that the municipality never received any demands or requests to ban pork from canteens and the issue was never even discussed. Sharing this hoax will do nothing other than foster bigotry and hatred against Muslim members of the community.


http://www.hoax-slayer.com/hoax-belgium-mayor-refuses-remove-pork-school-canteen.shtml

Also:

http://snopes.com/politics/religion/belgiumpork.asp

Noco, maybe time to unsubscribe to these newsletters? Quite unreliable.

To the point, I don't have the stats or the surveys but from the people I know who immigrated to Australia, they generally consider Australia a land of the White Australians - that it is your country, your land and we will play by your rules. I don't know anyone who's upset by that fact... it's just facts... and they tend to be grateful that you allow them refuge, that you welcome them as one of your own.

I think immigrants are more than happy that the law allows them to continue practising their religion and cultural beliefs... none, OK, most, don't set out to overthrow the gov't or the cultural norms here.

So if your comments are directed at the immigrants, there's no need for it. If it directs at the children of those immigrants... that's unnecessary and wrong. Unnecessary because humans generally will just adapt to the cultural norms of their society, act and behave like those they grow up around; Unnecessary because for the few that don't assimilate at all and demand the majority to follow their moral and religious beliefs... well our laws and our people will tell them where to go and what to do there.

That demand to adapt or leave is really wrong because who are you to tell the people that were born and grew up here to act like you - the "real" Australian? All societies are diverse and constantly evolving... anyway...
 
Noco, maybe time to unsubscribe to these newsletters? Quite unreliable.

To the point, I don't have the stats or the surveys but from the people I know who immigrated to Australia, they generally consider Australia a land of the White Australians - that it is your country, your land and we will play by your rules. I don't know anyone who's upset by that fact... it's just facts... and they tend to be grateful that you allow them refuge, that you welcome them as one of your own.

I think immigrants are more than happy that the law allows them to continue practising their religion and cultural beliefs... none, OK, most, don't set out to overthrow the gov't or the cultural norms here.

So if your comments are directed at the immigrants, there's no need for it. If it directs at the children of those immigrants... that's unnecessary and wrong. Unnecessary because humans generally will just adapt to the cultural norms of their society, act and behave like those they grow up around; Unnecessary because for the few that don't assimilate at all and demand the majority to follow their moral and religious beliefs... well our laws and our people will tell them where to go and what to do there.

That demand to adapt or leave is really wrong because who are you to tell the people that were born and grew up here to act like you - the "real" Australian? All societies are diverse and constantly evolving... anyway...

So how would you and me have to act if we migrated to a Muslim country?...would would be able to practice Christianity or live the life of an infidel without the fear of having our throats cut?...would we be able to send all our kids to school including females?......Would my wife or daughter be allowed to wear a bikini on the beach in a Muslim Country?
Would we be disallowed to eat pork because we like it?
I don't think you and I would last to long....you maybe if you are a Muslim.

This war against Islam has been going on for 1400 years and they have been beaten off every time....they will not succeed with world domination......to hell with them.

NO apologies to make to anyone who is offended by this – especially in light of the terrorist attack on our Parliament this very morning. Today, we the people of Canada have hopefully lost a good deal of our innocence about evil in the world and how we MUST deal with it. The following is not only timely but entirely appropriate given the FACTS! Facts are such stubborn things.



:


This is all factually (and historically) correct - and verifiable.
If you even go back further..
.. In 732 AD the Muslim Army which was moving on Paris was defeated and turned back at Tours, France, by Charles Martell.
…in 1571 AD the Muslim Army/Navy was defeated by the Italians and Austrians as they tried to cross the Mediterranean to attack Southern Europe in the Battle of Lapanto.
....in 1683 AD the Turkish Muslim Army, attacking Eastern Europe, was finally defeated in the Battle of Vienna by German and Polish Christian Armies.
....this has been going on for 1,400 years and half of these politicians don't even know it !!!
…if these battles had not been won we might be speaking Arabic and Christianity could be non - existent;
Judaism certainly would be... And let us not forget that Hitler was an admirer of Islam and that the Mufti of Jerusalem was Hitler's guest in Berlin and raised Bosnian Muslim SS Divisions: the 13th and 21st Waffen SS Divisions who killed Jews, Russians, Gypsies, and any other "subhuman's".
Reflecting A lot of Americans have become so insulated from reality that they imagine that America can suffer defeat without any inconvenience to them selves.
........Pause a moment, reflect back. These events are actual events from history. They really happened!!!
Do you remember?
1. In 1968, Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by a Muslim male.
2. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred by Muslim males.
3. In 1972 a Pan Am 747 was hijacked and eventually diverted to Cairo where a fuse was lit on final approach, it was blown up shortly after landing by Muslim males
4. In 1973 a Pan Am 707 was destroyed in Rome, with 33 people killed, when it was attacked with grenades by Muslim males.
5. In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken over by Muslim males.
6. During the 1980's a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by Muslim males.
7. In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by Muslim males.
8. In 1985, the Cruise Ship Achilles Lauro was hijacked and a 70 year old American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in his wheelchair by Muslim males.
9. In 1985, TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens, and a US Navy diver trying to rescue passengers was murdered by Muslim males.
10. In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by Muslim males.
11. In 1993, the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by Muslim males.
12. In 1998, the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by Muslim males.
13. On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked; two were used as missiles to take down the World Trade Centers and of the remaining two, one crashed into the US Pentagon and the other was diverted and crashed by the passengers. Thousands of people were killed by Muslim males.
14. In 2002, the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against Muslim males.
15. In 2002, reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and beheaded by---you guessed it was a--- Muslim male.
16. In 2013, Boston Marathon Bombing 4 Innocent people including a child killed, 264 injured by Muslim males.
No, I really don't see a pattern here to justify profiling, do you?
So, to ensure we Americans and Canadians never offend anyone, particularly fanatics intent on killing us, airport security screeners will no longer be allowed to profile certain people. So, ask yourself"Just how stupid are we???"
Absolutely No Profiling!
They must conduct random searches of 80-year-old women, little kids, airline pilots with proper identification, secret agents who are members of the President's security detail, 85-year old, Congressmen with metal hips, and Medal of Honor winner and former Governor Joe Foss, but leave Muslim Males,alone lest they be guilty of profiling. Ask yourself "Just how stupid are we?"
Have the American and Canadian people completely lost their Minds, or just their Power of Reason???
Let's send this to as many people as we can so that the Gloria Aldreds and other stupid attorneys along with Federal Justices that want to thwart common sense, feel ashamed of themselves -- if they have any such sense.
As the writer of the award winning story 'Forrest Gump' so aptly put it, 'Stupid Is As Stupid Does'.
Each opportunity that you have to send this to a friend or media outlet...
Do It! OR SIT BACK, JUST KEEP GRIPING, AND DO-NOTHING.



 
So how would you and me have to act if we migrated to a Muslim country?...would would be able to practice Christianity or live the life of an infidel without the fear of having our throats cut?...would we be able to send all our kids to school including females?......Would my wife or daughter be allowed to wear a bikini on the beach in a Muslim Country?
Would we be disallowed to eat pork because we like it?
I don't think you and I would last to long....you maybe if you are a Muslim.

This war against Islam has been going on for 1400 years and they have been beaten off every time....they will not succeed with world domination......to hell with them.

NO apologies to make to anyone who is offended by this – especially in light of the terrorist attack on our Parliament this very morning. Today, we the people of Canada have hopefully lost a good deal of our innocence about evil in the world and how we MUST deal with it. The following is not only timely but entirely appropriate given the FACTS! Facts are such stubborn things.



I saw lots of Arab girls going to school where I live, saw them at it when I was going to school. I don't think banning girls from going to school has anything to do with being Arabs or Muslim. I'm sure girls are going to school in Muslim countries like Pakistan or Malaysia, even Iran if I saw it right.

Yea, you have idiots running countries, like the Taliban used to in Afghanistan... but that's taking an extreme, ultra religious and cultural interpretation of Islam or something. I mean, there are certain Jewish religious people whose practices of some form of Judaism that doesn't permit them to sit next to women, even on a plane.

Ever heard of Yin and Yang? That Chinese Taoist religion with that black/white fish-like symbol in a circle? Well, from that Aussie movie "Two Hands", the narrator explains that just like that Taoist symbol, there is some goodness in what is evil, some evil in what is generally good.

That there is some black in white, some white in black. BUt in looking at Islam and the Arabs, you focus on the bad things and magnify that as though that's all they are when in fact it could just be a small part of it or some idiots' interpretation of it.

That list is factual (as far as I can tell), but it's a bit selective isn't it ?

You tried that kebab yet? Have ones from a proper restaurant where they actually BBQ real meat. It's quite something.
 
So how would you and me have to act if we migrated to a Muslim country?...would would be able to practice Christianity or live the life of an infidel without the fear of having our throats cut?...would we be able to send all our kids to school including females?......Would my wife or daughter be allowed to wear a bikini on the beach in a Muslim Country?
Would we be disallowed to eat pork because we like it?
I don't think you and I would last to long....you maybe if you are a Muslim.

This war against Islam has been going on for 1400 years and they have been beaten off every time....they will not succeed with world domination......to hell with them.

NO apologies to make to anyone who is offended by this – especially in light of the terrorist attack on our Parliament this very morning. Today, we the people of Canada have hopefully lost a good deal of our innocence about evil in the world and how we MUST deal with it. The following is not only timely but entirely appropriate given the FACTS! Facts are such stubborn things.



:


This is all factually (and historically) correct - and verifiable.
If you even go back further..
.. In 732 AD the Muslim Army which was moving on Paris was defeated and turned back at Tours, France, by Charles Martell.
…in 1571 AD the Muslim Army/Navy was defeated by the Italians and Austrians as they tried to cross the Mediterranean to attack Southern Europe in the Battle of Lapanto.
....in 1683 AD the Turkish Muslim Army, attacking Eastern Europe, was finally defeated in the Battle of Vienna by German and Polish Christian Armies.
....this has been going on for 1,400 years and half of these politicians don't even know it !!!
…if these battles had not been won we might be speaking Arabic and Christianity could be non - existent;
Judaism certainly would be... And let us not forget that Hitler was an admirer of Islam and that the Mufti of Jerusalem was Hitler's guest in Berlin and raised Bosnian Muslim SS Divisions: the 13th and 21st Waffen SS Divisions who killed Jews, Russians, Gypsies, and any other "subhuman's".
Reflecting A lot of Americans have become so insulated from reality that they imagine that America can suffer defeat without any inconvenience to them selves.
........Pause a moment, reflect back. These events are actual events from history. They really happened!!!
Do you remember?
1. In 1968, Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by a Muslim male.
2. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred by Muslim males.
3. In 1972 a Pan Am 747 was hijacked and eventually diverted to Cairo where a fuse was lit on final approach, it was blown up shortly after landing by Muslim males
4. In 1973 a Pan Am 707 was destroyed in Rome, with 33 people killed, when it was attacked with grenades by Muslim males.
5. In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken over by Muslim males.
6. During the 1980's a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by Muslim males.
7. In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by Muslim males.
8. In 1985, the Cruise Ship Achilles Lauro was hijacked and a 70 year old American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in his wheelchair by Muslim males.
9. In 1985, TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens, and a US Navy diver trying to rescue passengers was murdered by Muslim males.
10. In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by Muslim males.
11. In 1993, the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by Muslim males.
12. In 1998, the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by Muslim males.
13. On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked; two were used as missiles to take down the World Trade Centers and of the remaining two, one crashed into the US Pentagon and the other was diverted and crashed by the passengers. Thousands of people were killed by Muslim males.
14. In 2002, the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against Muslim males.
15. In 2002, reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and beheaded by---you guessed it was a--- Muslim male.
16. In 2013, Boston Marathon Bombing 4 Innocent people including a child killed, 264 injured by Muslim males.
No, I really don't see a pattern here to justify profiling, do you?
So, to ensure we Americans and Canadians never offend anyone, particularly fanatics intent on killing us, airport security screeners will no longer be allowed to profile certain people. So, ask yourself"Just how stupid are we???"
Absolutely No Profiling!
They must conduct random searches of 80-year-old women, little kids, airline pilots with proper identification, secret agents who are members of the President's security detail, 85-year old, Congressmen with metal hips, and Medal of Honor winner and former Governor Joe Foss, but leave Muslim Males,alone lest they be guilty of profiling. Ask yourself "Just how stupid are we?"
Have the American and Canadian people completely lost their Minds, or just their Power of Reason???
Let's send this to as many people as we can so that the Gloria Aldreds and other stupid attorneys along with Federal Justices that want to thwart common sense, feel ashamed of themselves -- if they have any such sense.
As the writer of the award winning story 'Forrest Gump' so aptly put it, 'Stupid Is As Stupid Does'.
Each opportunity that you have to send this to a friend or media outlet...
Do It! OR SIT BACK, JUST KEEP GRIPING, AND DO-NOTHING.




Muslims make up about a third of the world's population mate. I'm sure we can find a list of 16 atrocities that were committed by Christians (and Hindus, Buddhists and atheists).

To answer your questions:
- no idea about immigration rights, sorry
- yes, you're allowed to practice Christianity in many Muslim countries (and 'live the life of an infidel')
- yes, females go to school in Muslim countries
- yes, your wife and daughter are allowed to wear bikinis in Muslim countries
- yes, you can eat pork in Muslim countries.

Turkey, Morocco, Tunisia, Egypt, Malaysia, Indonesia (and Bali), Brunei - all (Muslim) countries where you would have absolutely no problems doing any of those things.

Not sure what your point is.
 
Four men arrested for allegedly plotting a terror attack to kill Queen

Religion of peace.....


Four men arrested for allegedly plotting a terror attack to kill Queen Elizabeth

A SUSPECTED plot to kill the Queen at a Royal British Legion event ahead of Remembrance Day at the Royal Albert Hall has been foiled by police.

British tabloid The Sun reports four Islamic terror suspects are thought to have been planning a knife attack on Her Majesty, 88.

It is thought the alleged assassination plot on the Queen emerged during routine surveillance.

The Queen and British Prime Minister David Cameron were both informed of the police operation and potential threat, the Sun reports.

Heavily-armed counter terrorist police swooped on four addresses across west London and High Wycombe in the Thames Valley overnight and arrested the four men aged 19 to 27 years.

http://www.news.com.au/world/four-men-arrested-for-allegedly-plotting-a-terror-attack-to-kill-queen-elizabeth/story-fndir2ev-1227116658248
 
British jihadists who fight with ISIS will be barred from returning home (for 2 years) under new anti-terror laws

British jihadists who fight for ISIS in Syria and Iraq are to be barred from returning home for at least two years to prevent terror attacks.

It is one of a series of new anti-terror laws being unveiled by David Cameron Friday, including powers to strip teenage jihadists of their passports and to bar airlines from landing in the U.K. if they fail to provide passenger information.

Mr. Cameron was due to make the announcement in an address to the Australian parliament. Britain must take action to deal with the threat posed by “foreign fighters planning attacks against our people,” he was expected to say.

More than 500 Britons have travelled to Iraq and Syria to take up arms with the Islamic State of Iraq and Al-Sham, and around half are thought to have returned to Britain. More than 200 people have been arrested over alleged terror threats in the past year.


http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/11/14/british-jihadists-who-fight-with-isis-will-be-barred-from-returning-home-under-new-anti-terror-laws/
 
Abdul-Rahman Kassig: US hostage 'killed by IS'

A video posted online claims to show that Islamic State militants have killed the captured US aid worker Abdul-Rahman Kassig.

The video shows a masked man standing over a severed head which he says is that of Mr Kassig.

The US says it is working to determine the authenticity of the video, which also shows a mass beheading of 18 Syrian troops.

Mr Kassig, also known as Peter, was captured last year.

His family, who live in the US state of Indiana, said they were awaiting confirmation of the reports about their "treasured son".

"We prefer our son is written about and remembered for his important work and the love he shared with friends and family, not in the manner the hostage takers would use to manipulate Americans and further their cause," the family said in a statement.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-30073602
 
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