Grievance Debate - Queensland and New South Wales Floods
Two weeks ago I brought to the attention of the House the injustice of the Rudd government’s decision to deny Coffs Coast and Clarence Valley residents affected by the March 31 floods one-off Centrelink cash payments. On 31 March more than 400 millimetres of rain fell in 24 hours. In some areas 600 millimetres fell. In one three-hour period 250 millimetres fell in many areas. The Coffs Coast region and the Clarence Valley were declared a national disaster area. Since then the Rudd government has on numerous occasions rejected requests for one-off cash payments of $1,000 per adult and $400 per child, as were provided to flood victims in North Queensland in February and as were later provided to those affected by the flood event on the North Coast in May of this year. Since 31 March the Prime Minister’s office and the Minister for Families, Housing, Community Services and Indigenous Affairs have continued to invent new excuses on why Coffs Coast flood victims do not deserve to be treated the same as flood victims of the New South Wales Northern Rivers and Queensland. Firstly, it was because they believed the damage was primarily to public infrastructure. When such advice was shown to be misinformed, a new excuse—that there were only four local government areas affected on 31 March, as compared with 24 council areas affected in May—was put forward. This is simply hollow rhetoric to the thousands of people who were impacted by the March event.
I believe the Prime Minister has also misled the parliament on this matter. On 25 May he told the parliament that those affected by the May floods would receive assistance which included one-off cash payments. The Prime Minister then told the House that he ‘authorised this assistance for people affected by the earlier floods in New South Wales in late March’. Less than 24 hours later the Prime Minister’s office told me that the same one-off cash assistance would not be provided to Coffs Coast residents impacted by the March 31 event.
Hiya Stan ... Yep that is exactly what I am saying. I believe the boys in the blue singlets have tapped the credit card a little too hard in my opinion. Ys, something had to be done to keep the country afloat.
Giving $900 x 3 to the populace was probably not the greatest of fiscal policy I have seen. Not one job was created BUT it more than likely helped save a few.
How can I theorise if Liberal got in we would be better off ... I cannot.
After an amazing run of world prosperity during their tenior. The Libs were willing to take credit for the good times, but simply blamed the Labs after the economic excrement hit the airconditioning just months after Rudd took office.When he was voted out (and rightly so) the country had NIL debt. Hmmmmmm ?
Libs lowered debt? They paid the credit card off ...NIL/ZERO/ZOT/NUFFIN.
So, the road from Noosa to Cairns is in a state of disrepair? Who is in political power in QLD ?
Oh, by the way come over to Western Australia where you pay $1.85 for fuel in the backlots (read Broome, similar to Cairns but not as pretentious) that do not have a bitumen road wider than a goat track.
Felicitations to you Rederob and your army of card carrying socialists. You and your ilk have managed to slay the media dragon and keep those unrepresented swill on the other side of the senate self flagellating and navel gazing that will last for several weeks whilst the factions sort themselves out.
If my memory serves me correctly a very similar thing happened with your mob around 2001 with Kim Beazly who lost the election only to be replaced by Simon Crean who steered the good ship "Credit Card" straight onto the rocks. Roll on late 2003 when a media hatchet job landed the ever popular Mark Latham to the prize seat of Union Leader. After a particulary nasty and spectacular meltdown in the heat of battle he was replaced by Kim Beazley Mk 2 on 28 January 2005. The media savvy Kevin Michael Rudd performed the best Brutus act in Caucus and managed to backstab his way to victory on the 4th December 2006. To Mr. Rudd's credit he has managed to deflect any mudslinging thus far and retains the mantle of "Supreme Ruler" to this day.
This is the nature of politics. Cyclic and national mood swings are par for the course. It won't be long before the good citizens of Banana Republic Land will awake form their sleepy little coma and once again toddle off to the polling booths only to find themselves 200 billion dollars in debt. OUCH !
Hope I got the names correct and with just the right amount of bias Macquack !
Naturally we all worry about the state of the roads Stanley, but what does it have to do with Rudd and Swan misleading parliament? :dunno:
I do agree.Naturally we all worry about the state of the roads Stanley, but what does it have to do with Rudd and Swan misleading parliament? :dunno:
It has little to do with Turnbull's frivolous accusations about Rudd's dishonesty in this affair. Much like the childish diatribes about our PM's apparent sexual preference that has been going on unabated for the last few pages of this thread. I'm sure you were about to post something about the irrelevance of those posts straight.
Giving $900 x 3 to the populace was probably not the greatest of fiscal policy I have seen.
I do agree.
There is no evidence that Rudd or Swan misled Parliament.
There is evidence that Turnbull is not being honest with the public, and accordingly they have marked him down. Actually, his popularity fell by a record amount between polls, showing the dissatisfaction he enjoys.
I hear there is a good doctor now available to help take away his pain.
Sacha's girlfriend is gorgeous.
Felicitations to you Rederob and your army of card carrying socialists. You and your ilk have managed to slay the media dragon and keep those unrepresented swill on the other side of the senate self flagellating and navel gazing that will last for several weeks whilst the factions sort themselves out.
If my memory serves me correctly a very similar thing happened with your mob around 2001 with Kim Beazly who lost the election only to be replaced by Simon Crean who steered the good ship "Credit Card" straight onto the rocks. Roll on late 2003 when a media hatchet job landed the ever popular Mark Latham to the prize seat of Union Leader. After a particulary nasty and spectacular meltdown in the heat of battle he was replaced by Kim Beazley Mk 2 on 28 January 2005. The media savvy Kevin Michael Rudd performed the best Brutus act in Caucus and managed to backstab his way to victory on the 4th December 2006. To Mr. Rudd's credit he has managed to deflect any mudslinging thus far and retains the mantle of "Supreme Ruler" to this day.
This is the nature of politics. Cyclic and national mood swings are par for the course. It won't be long before the good citizens of Banana Republic Land will awake form their sleepy little coma and once again toddle off to the polling booths only to find themselves 200 billion dollars in debt. OUCH !
Hope I got the names correct and with just the right amount of bias Macquack !
I guess Coorey has more brains than a trainspotter:Latest poll stipulates that the Libs have lost ground and Mr Turnbull is on thin ice with factional support waning. Labor loses ground in same poll but not as newsworthy. Nationals come out and declare now is not the time to go weak at the knees.
Turnbull hammered by voters
Phillip Coorey Chief Political Correspondent
June 29, 2009
MALCOLM TURNBULL'S darkest hour as Opposition Leader is upon him with a new poll showing his standing has been dealt a hammer blow by the OzCar affair.
The latest Herald/Nielsen poll also shows that despite Peter Costello announcing he is quitting politics, the former treasurer remains by far the most preferred Liberal leader, well ahead of Mr Turnbull and Joe Hockey, who are in a statistical dead heat for second place.
The nationwide poll of 1400 voters was taken from Thursday night to Saturday. This was in the wake of the OzCar affair, in which Opposition attempts to accuse Kevin Rudd and Wayne Swan of doing favours for a car dealer friend backfired when an email linking Mr Rudd to the affair proved to be a fake.
The monthly poll shows Mr Turnbull's personal approval rating slumped 11 percentage points to 32 per cent, while his disapproval rating soared 13 points to 60 per cent.
"Mr Turnbull now has an approval rating similar to that of Brendan Nelson on his way out and a disapproval rating similar to that of Simon Crean on the way out," said the Nielsen pollster John Stirton.
Support for the Coalition also nosedived. Labor led on a two-party preferred basis by 58 per cent to 42 per cent, up 5 points in a month.
The Coalition's primary vote slumped six points, to 37 per cent, while Labor's edged up 2 points, to 46 per cent.
More than half the voters surveyed - 53 per cent - had a less favourable opinion of Mr Turnbull after the OzCar episode.
another forum says there is a group GROMRP...stands for.... get rid of malcom recall peter....working fast and furious in the background atm
so its not hockey or abbott...its peter they want....that will turn everything around...
have'nt read this thread
If anyone was wondering how come the Federal Police knew the email was a "fake" so fast?
Labor knows Treasury has been leaking badly, so they would have used the resources of the Public Service and Fed Pols to track this down, as it is almost always either illegal or against public service regulations to "leak" any material.
Given the amount of time Godwin Grech was backgrounding the Libs, he would have been under suspicion for sure from his collegues, as the PS is a hotbed of intrigue.
The way they bust moles is to set them up, too easy, send a juicy email to to the target and see if it emerges.
I reckon Godwin was caught right out.
I would suspect they have other evidence of his activities
He will be dismissed
I guess Coorey has more brains than a trainspotter:
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