Has Clive Palmer gone loco?

[Julia]

Only day one of the new Senate and already the Palmosaurus is making clear his determination to exact revenge on the Liberal Nationals, especially for the Queensland party giving him the flick.

He is clearly having fun. Bugger the country.

 

[Calliope]

The Mahchurian Candidate;



SPIN OF THE WEEK

It comes after revelations in The Australian and The Courier-Mail that Citic Pacific’s subsidiary Sino Iron alleged more than $12 million, which should have been used for operating a port, had been siphoned out of a Mineralogy-controlled bank account. The Federal MP has maintained there is no money missing.

While Mr Palmer yesterday proudly said he owned Mineralogy, he claimed he did not recall who signed two cheques, worth $12.167 million, which have become the centre of the bitter legal *dispute.

At a doorstop interview outside Parliament House in Canberra yesterday, Mr Palmer said the allegations about the cash had been “made up by (Premier) Campbell Newman”.

But less than four hours later, at a live televised address to the National Press Club, he said the disputed $2.167 million cheque was paid to a Brisbane firm for political advertising.

“If it went to Media Circus it would have been to pay for advertising, but Mineralogy has got the right to do that,” he said.

Mr Palmer insisted Citic Pacific did not pay for his election campaign, but said he did not know how the disputed $12 million was spent

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...ier-Mail|homepage|homepage&itmt=1404783646439

 

[explod]

Palmer is proving to be a very good orator, something very much lacking in both libs and alp camps. (add greens too)

He can make a picture with words and give people a sense of vision. What I have been trying to get across to noco for some time.

Pretty sure he does not represent my politics but he is going to make people sit up.

Laugh at him if you will but the wise will sit up and take note of his methods. And on some social service statements a large number of disadvantaged will be backing him.

If there's not some big changes the libs and alp will continue to be slaughtered by the electorate. Where this may lead will be interesting to see.

 

[drsmith]

Clive Palmer is a political sprinter.

Behind the great theatre and oratory, there's no substance. His party is not governed by an underlying ideology other than what's best for Clive which is not a sound long term base.

It's a question of how long he can hold it all together. My estimate is that he and his party will run out of puff before the next federal election.

He'll help to toast the carbon tax this week which in the short term is what matters for the government. Longer term, it will let time wear down the cross bench senators on its budget measures.

 

[sptrawler]

Jolly ole Clive is trying to be clever, allow the government to pass tax cuts, but don't allow them to cut spending. Try and wedge Abbott.

He thinks he is sharp, I think he will cut himself.

The problem with Clive, Labor and the Greens, they are so focused on shafting Abbott, they aren't looking after Australias best interests.IMO

The powers of be will be watching carefully how this unfolds, I think Clive, Labor and the Greens will get burnt.

 

[Calliope]

Palmer is proving to be a very good orator, something very much lacking in both libs and alp camps. (add greens too)

He can make a picture with words and give people a sense of vision. What I have been trying to get across to noco for some time.

Pretty sure he does not represent my politics but he is going to make people sit up.

Laugh at him if you will but the wise will sit up and take note of his methods. And on some social service statements a large number of disadvantaged will be backing him.

If there's not some big changes the libs and alp will continue to be slaughtered by the electorate. Where this may lead will be interesting to see.

Strange that you Plod, our most ardent Greenie wants to join the PUPS. Perhaps you have ambitions of becoming a Senator? Politics makes such strange bed-fellows, when some of our most vocal lefties are attracted to PUP. Basilio is attracted to Jacqui Lambie. Knobby is attracted to Clive as his last hope.

I think the main reason for this fatal attraction is the shared hatred of Abbott, and you see the PUPS now as your best opportunity of derailing representative government.

 

[noco]

Palmer is like a shark........he circles his prey for a while to frighten the $h** out of them before he eats them.

Also be careful of that cream cake with the strawberry on top that Palmer offers everyone.....there could be a lot of $H** in the middle that you cannot see and will not like.

 

[Craton]

Disclaimer. I have no political alliance, just my musings.

To me, Clive came across as an amiable, fair dinkum larrikin Aussie bloke. IMHO though, he's starting to show his true colours. Glimpses of him going loco are starting to appear with the Clive and Al show. Yesterday with the on again, off again, on again Carbon Tax bill.

Will he and his party do Australia proud?

Hmm...saw Lambie's (from what I heard first I believe) question in the Senate yesterday. Wasn't impressed, just more of the same disgraceful, emotive behaviour in our parliament but this time from a different party. I don't think she liked the response from Abetz but she did fed him the best possible lead in to an answer. If this is the best PUP can do, Australia has voted for the wrong change.

Must say I had a giggle to myself when Ms Wong asked the Prez. if Lambie could have more time to finish her sentence (which was the 2nd stab at a rant) as it was Sen Lambie's first day in the Senate after all. The Prez agreed but only this once. School days indeed!

Speaking of school days, yeah, I know it's Question Time but geez those on the opposite bench really do act like a bunch of hissy fitting school kids. I just expect more from our reps. The more I see/hear of Q time (mostly in my lunch breaks) the more I like the near cordial and civil manner in which the Libs reply.

I dunno, I thought governing the country was serious biz not about one up gamesmanship. I suppose when ya got nothing, like the ALP and the Greens, adversarial is the name of the game.

That being said, at least Clive and PUP have livened things up a bit and possibly, just possibly, Aussies might take their voting decisions a lot more seriously next time instead of voting for change just for change sake.

 

[drsmith]

Speaking of school days, yeah, I know it's Question Time but geez those on the opposite bench really do act like a bunch of hissy fitting school kids. I just expect more from our reps. The more I see/hear of Q time (mostly in my lunch breaks) the more I like the near cordial and civil manner in which the Libs reply.

The activity level during question time is perhaps the reason why some of them then sleep through the remainder of the day.

The Senate does seem rowdier than the Reps which to me is a surprise. No one though gets kicked out under 94A. Either the president takes it easier than the speaker in the Reps or 94A doesn't apply.

The conclusion I've reached is the Q Time in both houses is more about theatre than it is about anything else.

 

[noco]

The activity level during question time is perhaps the reason why some of them then sleep through the remainder of the day.

The Senate does seem rowdier than the Reps which to me is a surprise. No one though gets kicked out under 94A. Either the president takes it easier than the speaker in the Reps or 94A doesn't apply.

The conclusion I've reached is the Q Time in both houses is more about theatre than it is about anything else.

Doc, all in the national interest....and pigs might fly......it is all about revenge from Palmer and it is all about point scoring from the Fabians in an effort to prevent the Coalition from reaching their goal.......it is lies, lies and more lies from the Green/Labor coalition......you know those two parties who are now supposed to be divorced but they still get into bed together behind closed doors.

 

[Calliope]

You would have to be loco or a liar not to "recall" signing two cheques totalling $12.167m.

Mr Palmer was the sole signat*ory on the NAB cheque account, according to sources close to his company, but he repeatedly told journalists on Monday he could “not recall’’ signing two cheques totalling $12.167m last year.

The Chinese government-owned Citic Pacific suspects its funds, which were held in the NAB account and subject to strict controls, were wrongfully used by Mr Palmer to bankroll the Palmer United Party

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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...ash-to-1-company/story-fnk76wj3-1226983614303

 

[drsmith]

No Xmas card this year for Leigh Sales from the big teddy bear.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-07-...sses-ahead-with-carbon-tax-repeal-bid/5588172

 

[drsmith]

I should have said Sarah Ferguson.

"Don't talk to me about allegations and bull****," he responded to questions about the issue from 7.30 host Sarah Ferguson.

 

[Calliope]

I should have said Sarah Ferguson.

Talking about bullsh!i. You will find a big pile to clean up everywhere the bigPUP goes. I guess Sarah had to get the cleaners in after his hissyfit.

 

[basilio]

Well that cartoon on the PUP party is a hoot!! Perhaps they should make a hundred copies and send them to the Lib/Nats as laughing point ! I'm sure they would appreciate the joke..

 

[noco]

Palmer is doing a lot of ducking and weaving over the $12 million Chinese money, but sooner or later he is going to have to face the music.

He might be able to run, but he cannot hide forever.......At end of the day, it could well be his undoing.

EVIDENCE of Clive Palmer’s company having nothing to do with a port for which he billed the Chinese more than $12 million in eight weeks for “port services” has been independently verified by the federal government.


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...ks-12m-questions/story-fn59niix-1226986174009

 

[drsmith]

Palmer is doing a lot of ducking and weaving over the $12 million Chinese money, but sooner or later he is going to have to face the music.

He might be able to run, but he cannot hide forever.......At end of the day, it could well be his undoing.

EVIDENCE of Clive Palmer’s company having nothing to do with a port for which he billed the Chinese more than $12 million in eight weeks for “port services” has been independently verified by the federal government.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...ks-12m-questions/story-fn59niix-1226986174009

From late in that article it looks like he cracked another wobbly,

In an ugly incident in Queenstown in New Zealand yesterday, he told a Channel 7 cameraman he would have him thrown out of a hotel, adding the Canberra-based reporter, Amelia Brace, could ‘f. k off’. Channel Nine also had a scheduled interview with Mr Palmer in New Zealand.

Text messages seen by The Weekend Australian show Mr Palmer had agreed to the interview at the Sofitel, but angrily canned it when the cameraman turned up.

More background,

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/clive-palmers-problem-with-living-two-lives-20140711-zt4g5.html

 

[Julia]

The ABC has belatedly picked up the Citic Pacific issue, that bothersome little blip that Mr Palmer insists is just 'all lies cooked up by The Australian'.

http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2014/s4044514.htm

 

[wayneL]

On a more politically holistic angle, I am struggling to see the common ideological thread between Palmer, The Brick and Lambie the mouth. WTF does PUP actually stand for?

 

[sptrawler]

From late in that article it looks like he cracked another wobbly,



More background,

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/clive-palmers-problem-with-living-two-lives-20140711-zt4g5.html

Could you imagine the media backlash, if Abbott carried on like this goon.
Even when he was in opposition, the media jump on a facial gesture.
With Clive he just tells them to F### off, and they say ok Clive.lol

Obviously Abbott is too shy, that must be why they climb all over him.