Jefferson is a dead American, Burnsy is a cool dude Aussie and well respected on ASF....... I go for Burnsy!
Burnsy for PM !!!
So with all these "immigrant friends" that would make you 80 years old, is that about right?:
i'm not 80 but my german friends are and have shared their experiences with me since i was a boy
i also have a dutch mate in his 80s who survived as an orphan on the docks of potsdam under nazi occupation who has shared his experiences with me on many occasions and even shown me the scars left on him from his ordeals in his quest just to survive
i have both serbian & croation friends in their 60s who have told me of their ordeals
a ukranian mate in his 70s who told me of his hardships under communism
so dont get all high and mighty trying to discredit my position in a sarcastic ad hominem attack...
.... the points you made in rest of your post i have covered before and couldnt be bothered repeating my position to an obviously uninterested audience.
lets just hope that the current good times (post WWII) last because you people would obviously be totally unprepared to face any hardship and would be the first ones to squeal 'help me, help me' should the sh*t ever hit the fan.
my last post on this thread:
“If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be.”
― Thomas Jefferson
Bill, do you seriously think people with a criminal record would be unable to lay their hands on firearms just because they cannot access them legally? Surely you're not so naive?The answer is totally restricting them to those who really need them, Police, Defence Force Members, Farmers - Collectors - sporting shooters all with licenses and DEFINITELY no one with a criminal record of any sort.
With no disrespect to Mr Burns, if you dismiss the wisdom of anyone who is no longer living you're making a huge mistake. Much of Jefferson's advice is entirely applicable today imo.Jefferson is a dead American, Burnsy is a cool dude Aussie and well respected on ASF....... I go for Burnsy!
Yes, let's remember that e.g. the Baltic states, Estonia, Lithuania and Latvia, were only liberated from Soviet oppression in 1991 when the Soviet Union fell apart.i'm not 80 but my german friends are and have shared their experiences with me since i was a boy
i also have a dutch mate in his 80s who survived as an orphan on the docks of potsdam under nazi occupation who has shared his experiences with me on many occasions and even shown me the scars left on him from his ordeals in his quest just to survive
i have both serbian & croation friends in their 60s who have told me of their ordeals
a ukranian mate in his 70s who told me of his hardships under communism
Much of Jefferson's advice is entirely applicable today imo.
If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered.
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies...
Imo Bandicoot is expressing a legitimate view, though perhaps a bit removed from the topic of carrying guns, and I find it a bit hard to see why his genuinely held and expressed remarks should be treated with such derision, sarcasm and scorn.
Bill, do you seriously think people with a criminal record would be unable to lay their hands on firearms just because they cannot access them legally? Surely you're not so naive?
With no disrespect to Mr Burns, if you dismiss the wisdom of anyone who is no longer living you're making a huge mistake. Much of Jefferson's advice is entirely applicable today imo.
Yes, let's remember that e.g. the Baltic states, Estonia, Lithuania and Latvia, were only liberated from Soviet oppression in 1991 when the Soviet Union fell apart.
Unless you have known people who lived under this sort of regime, I don't think it's possible for you to understand what they went through.
you see the difference? bill, burns and co are labelling 90% of the community as being so unstable that they have the potential to become a criminal/psycho/safety threat should they ever even be allowed access to guns, .... i'm saying that i dont care if 90% of the community have guns as long as the 10% of the community who are prepared to use them to harm others, such as criminals or people with psychiatric problems, are excluded from access to not only guns but ANY form of weaponry. thats where jails and asylums come into play.
not worth a comment
You are entitled to your view and I am entitled to mine. Letting the general public own guns is unnecessary and stupid.
Just ask any Police Officer if they think it is a good idea to have the whole community armed. They would be totally against it and so am I.
I can just imagine it, armed neighbourhood watch guys going around taking the law into there own hands just like the 17 year old boy that was shot coming home from the shops, no thank you. Post 8, click here.
Why should people be disallowed from owning and using guns responsibly?
Who cares what police think? They're job is to enforce law not make law or critically analyse it. I'm sure if paramedics had their way motorbikes would be outlawed.
So in other words you are imagining the US and not any number of other nations that have responsible gun ownership and low rates of gun and violent crime?
If you think having guns will keep the peace you're crazy, why, if I had one I would have shot a dozen people by now myself
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