chops_a_must
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The weakness in the US currency has never been at such a low and weak position. When this filters through to a realisation that the present fundamentals indicate that this situation is only going to get worse then gold will rise exponentially. We are near that point.
Back in late 1979 gold went from US$300 an ounce to a peak for a day of $900 an ounce. It settled at an average of $600 for the next twelve months.
Now with the currency situation worse than it was back then we can expect a gold spike the next time to take our breath away.
You may remember a few months ago I posted that the last gold bull multiple, which rose from US $35 oz to $900, was about 25 to one. This bull started at about $270. So currently, in my analysis gold is very, very undervalued at the moment. Bigger players are now going long gold, so any pull back will be small and short lived.
It is interesting, but we tend to believe fiction before fact and there is an old saying that "the truth is stranger than fiction"
In my very humble opinion
The thing that worries me is that gold hasn't broken out against most of the other currencies. It's risen purely on the dollar weakness. So unless you have the ability to access physical gold, trades on gold atm look almost like a red herring. However, if you have the power like a lot of instos obviously do, long term arbitrage gold to currency plays probably look quite attractive now.
Having said this, there looks to be a great box play forming on the ticker, GOLD. With a target just under $98. However, until the gold price breaks out against the AUD, the results of the local miners are probably going to disappoint...
GOLD box play chart:
It seems that we may have established reasonable support at US$730. The problems with the US economic outlook, in spite of the rising Dow continue to look grim so we can expect the gold price to continue strengthening in the coming weeks.
It is interesting to note that this US$730 area was a point of considerable resistance back in 1980.
Of course their jobs and reputation is on the line whereas we are unqualified and probably do not know what we are talking about.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2007/10/06/cnhambro106.xmlPeter Hambro Mining has found an ingenious way to beat the credit crunch, raising $150m (£73.5m) with a rare form of bond that allows investors to lock in a 7pc interest rate while also taking a bet on gold.
If the price of gold rises above $1,000 an ounce, the owners of the bonds can accept payment of the equivalent value in cash once two years have elapsed. This would give them a 37pc capital appreciation above today's price of $741 (£363).
If gold goes higher, they make more. Should the price fail to reach $1,000, investors redeem the bond at par, plus interest yield.
Bean,The COT 's are still extreme.
Have the US gold Indicies made a double top last week
Have they completed wave B with wave C to start
HUI from a high 394.32 on 10 May 06
wave A to 287 on the 11 October 06
Wave B 401 on the 1st Oct 07
Wave C 2?? on the ??????
Bullish above US$ 750 bearish if it does not take it out this week?
Bean,
Can you please clarrify your ABC there.
I'm an EW quamby, but I guess that a B can not be higher than the starting point, or maybe it's 'close enough'.....
The COT 's are still extreme.
Have the US gold Indicies made a double top last week
Have they completed wave B with wave C to start
HUI from a high 394.32 on 10 May 06
wave A to 287 on the 11 October 06
Wave B 401 on the 1st Oct 07
Wave C 2?? on the ??????
Bullish above US$ 750 bearish if it does not take it out this week?
Also DOW in MAY 06 was about 11500 today 14000
POG US$ 737? today US$ 737
POG has not been bullish at all has it.
US$ index was in the 80's
Hi Bean,
I also see some weakness in Gold.
Last night I went short on it,
My reasons this break out has made a normal trend up to it's current position.
formed its frist minor band at 630 normal, but the break out that followed was sold back down to 630 in two sessions, found support around 630 again normal. rallied again to 640's straight away it found weakness forming a creeping band with a lower high that was my entry. POG has weakened again , now if that area of support fails to hold again i will add to my trade. On the bullish side that support may hold again suggesting as long as it can hold above it it's a trading range with a break above 645 to 650 confirming a creeping trend to fast trend up a bullish sign. I am sitting short on it until that is proven.
Good trading.
You are not sure which way it is going so you go short. Unless I am reading something wrong, if I was not sure I would stay out. Gold has been in a confirmed uptrend since 2001 so why the concern all the time of a collapse. My reading of the last week or so would suggest that the $730 level is now fairly good support which has been tested and held the last two trading days.
Fridays, traders have had it for the week and Mondays they are rubbing thier eyes. They are poor days on which to judge the market and they are the very days that the PPT try to push gold down. That fact that they could not is very bullish.
I would point out that the crap analysts of Wall Street are flat out trying to say it is going down but in spite of that less of the sheeple are now believing it.
Doing your own reseach and thinking gives gives the best outcomes.
Well your post says you don't read so well, all my reasons and evidence are in that post read it again, look at the chart.
I am not a long term investor. blind faith is a mans greatest down fall in speculation!
Well your post says you don't read so well, all my reasons and evidence are in that post read it again, look at the chart.
I am not a long term investor. blind faith is a mans greatest down fall in speculation!
The chart tells me it is going up with some consolidation. Certainly not a short prospect without confirmation. Your evidence is technical, been there, trust only the fundamentals and general directions now.
Just my view, and yes us older codgers miss the point some times.
I think there's too much support established at the previous resistance. It's been a big wind up since Apr/May 06...If we break though support it might be short lived.I agree the trend in gold is up but on the short term the puff is being taken out of the break which could be a normal consolidation or it could be more, time will tell on that.
But the evidence being presented on the daily gold chart right now tells me to be short and stay there until futher notice.
Good trading
LOL, no hard feelings Explod.
Well I trade what the chart tells me and fundamentals second, not that i have anything against fundamental traders/investors. CCi also showing divergence.
I agree the trend in gold is up but on the short term the puff is being taken out of the break which could be a normal consolidation or it could be more, time will tell on that.
But the evidence being presented on the daily gold chart right now tells me to be short and stay there until futher notice.
Good trading
This should eventually provide another buying opportunity before the next big move up yes?
Cheers,
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