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Global Warming - How Valid and Serious?

What do you think of global warming?

  • There is no reliable evidence that indicates global warming (GW)

    Votes: 8 5.2%
  • There is GW, but the manmade contribution is UNPROVEN (brd),- and we should ignore it

    Votes: 12 7.8%
  • Ditto - but we should act to reduce greenhouse gas effects anyway

    Votes: 46 30.1%
  • There is GW, the manmade contribution is PROVEN (brd), and the matter is not urgent

    Votes: 6 3.9%
  • Ditto but corrective global action is a matter of urgency

    Votes: 79 51.6%
  • Other (plus reasons)

    Votes: 7 4.6%

  • Total voters
    153

have you got a link to verify this info ... cheers
 
have you got a link to verify this info ... cheers


lol my thoughts exactly, and do these Brillant American "scientists" place these devices all over the world? and do they always hunt out places on asphalt beside airconditioners to gather this data for the "agenda" ?
 
Anyway once Dubbya gets ousted from his Ivory tower im almost sure our American cousins will come fight the good fight, and as for China it will be comply or face "climate" tariffs on your "stuff".

Actually i think the world is nearly big enough,powerful enough and united enough on this issue to now force both these guys if needed, tax them into submission
 
have you got a link to verify this info ... cheers

have a look at the youtube i posted 2 or so pages back it was in 4 parts...

also how mnay world animal species do you think have become extinct since the 1970's due to global warming???
 
Will do !

Couldnt give a rats!
99% of all species that lived on this planet have become extinct. I`m only worried about mankind in the GW debate.

well it would surprise you that 1000's were predicted to be extinct but since 1970 only 7 species have become extinct.....take that global warming alarmists
 
well it would surprise you that 1000's were predicted to be extinct but since 1970 only 7 species have become extinct.....take that global warming alarmists

You do realise there is a big time lag for declaring animals extinct don't you?
 
nc, agreed

I love the way Australia is doing it now,
and USA will no doubt do it when they are finally dragged screaming to the signing table....

"and we are determined to take a position of LEADERSHIP on this matter"

wow ,lol, I'd call it following rather than leading , but let em feed their egos and their electoral bases I guess

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyoto_Protocol
the US, and Kazakhstan are the only signatory nations, not to have ratified the act.

 
Look even if this small extremist fringe group of people denying climate change turned out to be correct, we need to clean up our planet and stop treating it like a toilet ..... I like that Indian proverb ...


"Only when the last tree is cut; only when the last river is polluted; only when the last fish is caught; only then will they realize that you cannot eat money."


Dont you love how the deniers are now the Extremists and the acceptors are now considered realists represented by main stream society ?
 

Heya 2020,

Yes lol let them feed the ego, guess theyve got some claim to it especially in comparison to the "alternative".

Yes hopefully they dream up a import tax large enough to place on goods manufactored in "non Kyoto" places to force them !


Heres the Mrs doing her bit to fight the good fight, only 6200m2 to go, wonder if shell make it in for dinner ?

 
I remember it well! The days when Mum had the same shopping bag that was passed down to her and went shopping, NO PACKAGING, and therefore no litter, no big dumps, and No need to be concerned about waste. And, And, And because of this there was less water used and less power required.

Global warming is caused also by the dreaded "AIR CONDITIONING" in houses and CARS.

Also all those freezers, washing machines, dryers.....you name it, it's there, and all of these items are causing global warming.

Get serious guys, we're the ones causing global warming, due to waste and lazyness.
 
ok - Here's what NASA have on their website
http://www.nasa.gov/worldbook/global_warming_worldbook.html

Here's graph of temp to 2000
http://veimages.gsfc.nasa.gov/9929/a001008_pre.jpg

We are not just talking about Global Warming / Climate Change

We are talking RAPID Global Warming - totally unprecedented in history...


 

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continued (from article on NASA home page)

 
Hey 2020, That last bit about computers helping. All these millions, probably a billion computers are all using extra energy and all that metal and plastic used in making them, and the PACKAGING to deliver them in. Then all the rubbish when disposing of all the CRT monitors and Windows 95 and 98 computers - what a load of rubbish. ( not your post 2020, excellent as always, just the mountains of rubbish leave me fuming.)
 


Valid point Noirua,

But on the flipside billions of email instead of printed stuff not to mention transporting the printed stuff. People study/work from home instead of driving across the city, lots of things, the waste probably balances with the savings - not down playing it , IT waste is becoming a huge problem - I couldnt imagine a world without the Internet and Computers - Id probably go crazy and bankrupt lol.
 

Well, murdoch uni had a computer recycling programme, that was incredibly successful. Unfortunately the uni have found it necessary to take over the guild rooms that this programmed required, without recompense. Not bad considering our Uni advertise as, and is regarded as, the world leader in environmental studies.
 


look at the data range on the graph...it fails to acknowledge the previous few hundred years, where are the numbers on the side...odds on the graph is only measuring a range of 1 or 2 degrees, also it doesnt say when it finishes, the last date is 1980.. neone gonna acknowledge since 2000 roughly temperature has stalled
 
https://www.aussiestockforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6216&highlight=nasa&page=3

white...
Those gridlines on Y axis are 0.2 deg C each. (i think lol - tbc)
(but your job is to go to NASA and get the exact numbers right? lol - since you are interested in facts yes?)


Shinbone - if they were degrees we'd have closed down the barrier reef long ago.

btw, Note the bit about ... if we stopped making CO2e NOW, the earth would still be warming in 2100. (PS on looking back - maybe I didn't include that sentence in my summary - you'll find it in the article on NASA website)

This is the Titanic we are trying to turn around here...


btw, have a look at post #208 for the previous 1000 years - we are hotter than any of em !
 

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Look even if this small extremist fringe group of people denying climate change turned out to be correct, we need to clean up our planet and stop treating it like a toilet ..... I like that Indian proverb ...

lol. now youre denying the deniers.

no doubt there are people who wholeheartedly deny GW however there also exists a large and growing group of people who simly ask for scientific evidence.


Dont you love how the deniers are now the Extremists and the acceptors are now considered realists represented by main stream society ?

according to you.
 
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