Julia
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Apparently Rudd never called Julia about the resignation, Oh DUH, like why would he?
I really do feel for the ALP true believers. The grassroot Labor supporters are a good lot, badly served by the Unions, Factions and Rich Leftoids in power.
Having to chose between Gillard and Rudd is akin to being left with two pieces of bait at the end of a hot days fishing, both limp, wet and coming apart, an eskie empty of grog and catch, and an ominous storm brewing between your anchorage and harbour.
Let us hope for the sake of a good opposition during the inevitable Coalition government to come, that the ALP chose a good compromise candidate.
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PM Julia Gillard told to quit as bitter caucus feud breaks out
JULIA Gillard faced a revolt last night by marginal seat MPs who publicly called for her to resign as Prime Minister.
For the first time, marginal seat MPs including Victoria's Darren Cheeseman went public with a demand she quit to save the party.
"There's no doubt about it: Julia Gillard can't take the party forward. The community has made its mind up on her," he told the Sunday Herald Sun.
"Certainly, it would be in the interests of the party for Julia to stand down and allow (the) Government to select a strong candidate."
I don't see the swearing video as doing Rudd any harm. We all know he swears.
I'd probably be pretty much the same if I were trying to translate some flowery Chinese wording.
So what do you think will be the result of them "coming to their senses?"
Putting Rudd back? Surely not.
Yes. But it depends on how much a product of the Labor Party Gillard actually
is, i.e. would she go to the back bench, or would she be sufficiently P*****d
off to resign and cause a by-election?
She made a fundamental mistake in making Rudd Foreign Minister, therefore giving
him a high profile platform on which to strut his stuff. She should have sent
him to the back bench. Her kindness has come back and smacked her right in the
face.
Since Rudd resigned as foreign minister while overseas I hope he is paying for his own aifare home and not expecting the taxpayer to pay it.
I mentioned sometime ago if Rudd did not succeed with his bid for the UN Secretary General job and missed out on becoming PM again, he will resign from parliament and he and Terise will move to London to be closer to her business activities.
My thoughts too gg.
Tactically, spot on observation.
Yeah, I think the edited leak, ironically depicts (through Rudd) how most voters feel about this government. It played right into Rudd supporters hands.
Probably yes.
That is probably what Rudd is hoping for.
I don't think it was kindness so much as self preservation. She had to pander to him as well as the independants to hold government.
Actually his resignation isn't effective until 48 hrs after he arrives back in Aus, ie Sunday morning I think.
Crystal ball gaze!
From a tactical position, I think Rudd is holding most of the aces atm.
The gov needs him to retain government and avoid an early election. This is evidenced by Gillards praise of him as foreign minster after his quitting and lack of the sort of venom as in Swan, Crean and co. I would say if Gillard is toppled, Swan is goooonnne and maybe a couple other staunch Gillard supporters as well.
I think the attacks on Rudd recently were unintelligently designed to force him to retire quietly to the back benches which he was never going to do, or quit politics all together, which while it would delight a few in the party, is obviously short sighted self interest and not in the best interest of the Labor gov holding power.
I think Gillard is smart enough to know she still needs him a whole lot more than he or the party needs her.
My tip... one of three things will happen.
1. Rudd retains leadership. Gillard, Swan, Crean and co religated to backbenchers. They will not quit politics because they are hard core Labor politicans. Major cabinet resuffle reflecting in a lift in support from Qld Labor voters, remembering that fed Labor can only win with improved performance in Qld... and a boost for the chances of Bligh to win the Qld election in a month.
2. A third leader will be appointed. Rudd quits politics. An early fed election after a devestating Labor loss in Qld election.
3. Gillard retains leadership. Rudd quits politics. Qld Labor defeated. Early fed election and the demise of Labor for another decade.
When a minister resigns, it is pretty self-explanatory to let the leader of the party know beforehand.
An other option is for someone like Ferguson to throw his hat in the ring as an alternative to the feuding pair??
When a minister resigns, it is pretty self-explanatory to let the leader of the party know beforehand.
Who would you prefer to lead the Australian Labor Party?
Julia Gillard
15%
Kevin Rudd
59%
Someone else
26%
Total votes: 9595.
An other option is for someone like Ferguson to throw his hat in the ring as an alternative to the feuding pair??
What the leader who is holding the knife that is buried in your back.LOL
That's what this mob don't understand, loyaylty is a door that swings both ways.
Don't expect it if you don't give it.
The SMH has always supported Rudd. Their readership poll reflects this.
Rudd will be telling anyone who listens this weekend that he is the only one who can beat Tony Abbott.
Well, who'd have guessed it? The Gillard/Rudd stoush is all about...wait for it...Tony Abbott.
They both claim they are to only ones who can deliver us from Tony Abbott.
Well, who'd have guessed it? The Gillard/Rudd stoush is all about...wait for it...Tony Abbott.
They both claim they are to only ones who can deliver us from Tony Abbott.
He he. Tony Abbott, freshly returned from the beach (doubtless having been the cause of all the shark attacks), now finds that in his absence, the ALP leadership turmoil has been his fault as well!Well, who'd have guessed it? The Gillard/Rudd stoush is all about...wait for it...Tony Abbott...
Rudd will be telling anyone who listens this weekend that he is the only one who can beat Tony Abbott.
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