Gay Marriage

[MrBurns]

Gay Marriage has nothing to do with children.

Gays are already allowed to have children.

Yes I know , tragic isn't it.

 

[Value Collector]

That's right stop interfering in the lives of people who value the meaning of marriage.
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Please tell how allowing gay couples to get married would affect the meaning of your marriage?

 

[Value Collector]

, tragic isn't it.

Nope.

 

[MrBurns]

Please tell how allowing gay couples to get married would affect the meaning of your marriage?

Marriage has been between a man and a woman not 2 men or 2 women, simple...

I don't really care, it does create problems for the Catholic church, but they deserve it

 

[MrBurns]

Nope.

I think giving gays the right to "own" children is tragic.

 

[SirRumpole]

I think giving gays the right to "own" children is tragic.

So do I.

They are just 'pretend' parents, meanwhile the child has to grow up on the fringes of society and without the male/female role models that children need.

 

[Value Collector]

Marriage has been between a man and a woman not 2 men or 2 women, simple...

I don't really care, it does create problems for the Catholic church, but they deserve it

But would allowing same sex couples to be married harm your marriage?

How would it harm society?

I really want to get to the bottom of how you think you will be personally harmed by giving same sex couples the right to marry.

And if there is no harm to you, what's the problem, what's the harm for society?

 

[Value Collector]

I think giving gays the right to "own" children is tragic.

We aren't giving them the right to "own" children.

I guess it's tragic if you feel you own your children.

They already have the right to raise children. And the children debate has nothing to do with gay marriage, because as pointed out already its a separate topic and they already have that right.

 

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[luutzu]

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Sounds like a boring movie.

 

[MrBurns]

But would allowing same sex couples to be married harm your marriage?

How would it harm society?

I really want to get to the bottom of how you think you will be personally harmed by giving same sex couples the right to marry.

And if there is no harm to you, what's the problem, what's the harm for society?

My main concern is the children that are handed over to same sex couples as their "right"

This is already legal in a number of states and I think it's just wrong, in years to come the Govt will have to apologise to people harmed by being given to homosexuals much the same as apologising for forced adoption.

 

[Value Collector]

My main concern is the children that are handed over to same sex couples as their "right"

This is already legal in a number of states and I think it's just wrong, in years to come the Govt will have to apologise to people harmed by being given to homosexuals much the same as apologising for forced adoption.

OK, so that is a red herring in this thread, Because this about gay marriage, not the rights of gays to raise children.

Marriage and raising children are two separate topics, especially because as already pointed out, they already have the right to raise children.

Do you have anything against same sex marriage?

 

[MrBurns]

Do you have anything against same sex marriage?

No, but I do think they possibly should have created their own unique way of doing it rather than insisting on stepping on so many sensitivities in the community.

 

[Trembling Hand]

No, but I do think they possibly should have created their own unique way of doing it rather than insisting on stepping on so many sensitivities in the community.

Yeah kinda like the blacks should have got their own buses instead of rubbing whites nose in it by sitting up the front with the whites and forcing the US supreme court to make a call on it.

How insensitive of the blacks.

 

[Value Collector]

No, but I do think they possibly should have created their own unique way of doing it rather than insisting on stepping on so many sensitivities in the community.

So when inter racial marriages were illegal, do you think the best solution would have been to introduce a new version of marriage for the mixed couples, rather than insisting on stepping on so many sensitivities?

how is it different?

Some sensitivities need to be stepped on.

 

[MrBurns]

Yeah kinda like the blacks should have got their own buses instead of rubbing whites nose in it by sitting up the front with the whites and forcing the US supreme court to make a call on it.
How insensitive of the blacks.

Congrats on finding a totally unsuitable analogy.
The bus was never built for whites only, however marriage was the exclusive domain of men and women only.

 

[sydboy007]

That's right stop interfering in the lives of people who value the meaning of marriage.
As for your decades of study, I call b******* rigged by interest groups.

Anyway no point arguing, we each have our own opinions.

Then simply observer from afar Norawy, Denmark, Sweden and see how their societies have declined, or not, since they legalised same sex marriage.

It shouldn't be a controversial issue. My same sex marriage has no impact on your choice to marry or not marry.

I'm sure the Govt will be happy to keep the issue going, at least till they've stuck us in the neck with the TPP. Now that's something people should be marching in the streets against.

 

[MrBurns]

So when inter racial marriages were illegal, do you think the best solution would have been to introduce a new version of marriage rather than insisting on stepping on so many sensitivities?

how is it different?

Some sensitivities need to be stepped on.

I think people see interracial relationships differently to homosexual ones, well obviously they do.

 

[galumay]

It's the same in Australia. .

The difference is that in Australia you can get married in a church or other religious institution and the state recognises that. The difference in the countries I mentioned is if you got married in a religious institution the state does not recognise it - you have to get married by the appointed state official, usually the mayor.

 

[galumay]

I think people see interracial relationships differently to homosexual ones, well obviously they do.

I think you mean "some" people. Its pretty clear the majority of people see relationships as relationships, gender, sexuality, race, dont come into it.

If you dont agree with gay marriage, then dont marry a man. I really dont get what the fuss is about.