Freedom of speech and protest

[Tink]

We have choices, and that is how it should be.

 

[Jorgensen]

On twitter there are articles about her support for apartheid,after Arthur Ashe was banned from playing in South Africa.
Quite a piece of work is our Margaret!

 

[wayneL]

...is she's as bat **** crazy as any other religious nut...

Curious... the left loves to ridicule the Margaret Courts of the world...

...and loves to support pious muslims.

The funny thins is that on this and many other issues, they don't see their own monumental hypocrisy.

Make that megalithical....

...actually, make that galaxical(sic)

 

[Ves]

Curious... the left loves to ridicule the Margaret Courts of the world...

...and loves to support pious muslims.

The funny thins is that on this and many other issues, they don't see their own monumental hypocrisy.

Make that megalithical....

...actually, make that galaxical(sic)

About the only 'megalithical' thing going on here is the false dichotomy you just created out of thin air.

The dichotomy you should be looking at is with/without.

 

[pixel]

...is she's as bat **** crazy as any other religious nut...

... and the problem that Australia has is that any bat **** crazy nutter can offer his or her opinion and find media willing to publish it. All under the presumption "My ignorance is just as good as any scientist's knowledge."
Only look around on Canberra's benches: Abbott, Hanson (both the old and -Young), Catter, Barnaby, ... the list is endless. And they all find sufficient numbers in the population at large that think their opinions are steeped in perfect wisdom.

 

[wayneL]

About the only 'megalithical' thing going on here is the false dichotomy you just created out of thin air.

The dichotomy you should be looking at is with/without.

It's the end of the day, its been a hard one at the vet clinic and Ive used up my quota of thinkery on a couple of out the freakin box cases.

You're going to have to explain that one Ves.

 

[McLovin]

Curious... the left loves to ridicule the Margaret Courts of the world...

...and loves to support pious muslims.

Do they? That's nice. If a Muslim was comparing gays to Hitler and talking about mind control and the Devil I would call them bat **** crazy. I bet "the right" would too; how's that for hypocrisy.

 

[wayneL]

Do they? That's nice. If a Muslim was comparing gays to Hitler and talking about mind control and the Devil I would call them bat **** crazy. I bet "the right" would too; how's that for hypocrisy.

<cough > You don't think they have their own ludicrity(sic)?

Or are the 72 virgins a reality?

 

[Ves]

It's the end of the day, its been a hard one at the vet clinic and Ive used up my quota of thinkery on a couple of out the freakin box cases.

You're going to have to explain that one Ves.

What's to explain?

There are those "With" things (ie. space, power, privilege,) and those "Without" those things.

The whole scenario of "hypocrisy" you were trying to describe might make more sense to you if you break it down into those two categories.

 

[wayneL]

What's to explain?

There are those "With" things (ie. space, power, privilege,) and those "Without" those things.

The whole scenario of "hypocrisy" you were trying to describe might make more sense to you if you break it down into those two categories.

I still can't see any false dichotomy or how you made the leap from one to the other. Still scratching my head Komrade.

 

[Ves]

I still can't see any false dichotomy or how you made the leap from one to the other. Still scratching my head Komrade.

Read what you wrote again:

Curious... the left loves to ridicule the Margaret Courts of the world...

...and loves to support pious muslims.

It's not a contradiction. You're just looking at it wrong. That's all I'm saying.

 

[McLovin]

<cough > You don't think they have their own ludicrity(sic)?

Or are the 72 virgins a reality?

Huh? I'm saying they do. Why do you think I said "religious nut" not Christian. They're all the same as far as I'm concerned. The only thing that differs is 500 years of secularism.

Perhaps if you stop seeing the world as left and right, white and black you might stop ascribing beliefs to me.

 

[orr]

If only you all could have been there...
'Bat $hit' got a mention recently above ..here it is below.
One of the few evenings attended where the St Johns Ambulance were issued with a supply of straight jackets...under supplied.

 

[wayneL]

Huh? I'm saying they do. Why do you think I said "religious nut" not Christian. They're all the same as far as I'm concerned. The only thing that differs is 500 years of secularism.

Fair enough, I misinterpreted what you wrote. However the left clearly supports religious Muslims while having disdain for religious Christians. It's a fact.

[/QUOTE]Perhaps if you stop seeing the world as left and right, white and black you might stop ascribing beliefs to me.[/QUOTE]

Huh? I haven't ascribed any beliefs to you at all, merely debating points as you present them. As a point, perhaps you may have ascribed beliefs to me?

MvLovin the world IS right and left, with a full spectrum in between, AND often with a high degree of overlap. For the record I class myself as more of a classical liberal rather than a conservative, with some concessions to social liberalism. Technically left of center, but I just consider the current iteration of leftism as a poison that will eventually destroy the west.

 

[SirRumpole]

However the left clearly supports religious Muslims while having disdain for religious Christians. It's a fact.

And the "right" clearly support pious Christians while having contempt for Muslims.

That's a fact too. Refer Tony Abbot, Andrew Bolt etc.

 

[Tink]

McLovin, you are entitled to your view.

The SSM activists and their bullying antics have been mentioned before.

Bill Leak was one
Waffen SSM
https://www.aussiestockforums.com/t...s-commission-a-national-disgrace.31515/page-4

I agreed with him, not to mention the 'unsafe school programs' that have been indoctrinating public schools.
https://www.aussiestockforums.com/threads/chaos-in-australian-education.25851/page-6

I also mentioned Qantas the SSM carrier being connected to Emirates.
I didn't see Emirates on that list.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emirates_(airline)

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I do believe in choice, as I have mentioned before.
I am all for public and private.

Our foundations are Christian.
Political Correctness is a poison, imv.

 

[wayneL]

And the "right" clearly support pious Christians while having contempt for Muslims.

That's a fact too. Refer Tony Abbot, Andrew Bolt etc.

Of course they do Horace! I would expect Hindus to support Hindus too.

Christianity is culturally congruent to our Western Culture. We have Christian Holidays and Christian lexicon. We have rightly secularized and bolstered the rights of women and racial minorities, largely because of the work of the moderate left.

This is why it is totally stupifying that the left has decided to support incongruous Islamaic culture and practice.

 

[SirRumpole]

This is why it is totally stupifying that the left has decided to support incongruous Islamaic culture and practice.

Who in the 'Left' are you actually talking about ?

 

[wayneL]

Hundreds and hundreds of articles and examples out there Horace, this article s interesting from a moderate Muslims point of view:

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/10091/muslims-liberals-leftists

 

[Ves]

Fair enough, I misinterpreted what you wrote. However the left clearly supports religious Muslims while having disdain for religious Christians. It's a fact.

Yes, they do. But it's not for the reasons you are ascribing.

Generally (and obviously not in every case) Christians come from wealthier Western counties and Muslims come from poor Eastern (or underdeveloped) countries.

Strip away the religious aspect. It's pretty easy to see that the so called 'Left' among us are fighting for these people because they lack basic rights, they're poor, they're mostly stuck under oppressive authoritarian regimes.

Obviously this has got lost in the wash some where along the way and it's been turned into a Christianity vs. Muslim thing (which suits the "Right" because it becomes a "protect Tradition" argument), which I don't think it should be.