Freedom of speech and protest

[SirRumpole]

She walked along Haldon St though. That's where the shops and Muslims are. She filmed them in slow motion where they look really, really shifty. But she survived the war zone so what's with walking down a quiet street towards the Mosque?

If she tried the same thing with a Christian church, no one would bat an eyelid, and she would probably get invited in.

The Muslims think that they have their own little enclave where no one else can go without their say so.

That's not appropriate in a democratic country. She wasn't carrying a gun, only a microphone.

Decent people would just not talk to her if they didn't want to, not have her thrown out.

 

[luutzu]

If she tried the same thing with a Christian church, no one would bat an eyelid, and she would probably get invited in.

The Muslims think that they have their own little enclave where no one else can go without their say so.

That's not appropriate in a democratic country. She wasn't carrying a gun, only a microphone.

Decent people would just not talk to her if they didn't want to, not have her thrown out.

It wasn't the Muslim that thrown her out or banned her or gave her a hard time.

It was the police officer. And he didn't do it because he want to ban her from her free speech. He did say that he know her opinions and she's free to hold her views.

Like I said, she survived Haldon St, the retail/main street where Muslims roam.

The officer confronted her on a quiet, residential street. She walks down that street and half of it is a public school, the rest are a few flats and some houses before she reaches the Mosque.

If she's to be stopped or beaten up or driven out, it'd be on Haldon. Not on that street. I know the place alright. Trust me.

Different religion have different dress code. No Muslim gave her a hard time dressing like she did on Haldon. Just to go into a Mosque you got to be more modest.

But that's just my opinion. Who knows, maybe the Muslim inside the Mosque wouldn't have a problem with her dress code either. Just saying that the police officer, given his experience and forethought, could see possible stirring the shiet if she goes.

He might be right, might not be. But he made the call on the spot. And if you ask me, it's the right call.

If she's really serious about doing investigation; or want to interview Muslims and their religious leaders. Or even protest in front of the Mosque. All she need to do is follow the law, ask for permission to organise a protest etc.

Anyway, too many people think that hate speech is the same as free speech. They're not. It's like thinking that freedom mean you can drive recklessly or beat anyone up.

 

[Wysiwyg]

Different religion have different dress code. No Muslim gave her a hard time dressing like she did on Haldon. Just to go into a Mosque you got to be more modest.

This is Australia not the Middle East. It is a free country to go to any place one wants. You go to Chinatowns and no one is hiding from cameras and giving you nasty looks or police warning not to venture near the religious places. That woman exposed the true nature of extreme Islam. The presence of a critique creates automatic wrath. Get rid of that ideology from Australia.

 

[Wysiwyg]

The Muslims think that they have their own little enclave where no one else can go without their say so.

The mere presence of that woman created such turmoil and hard to believe it happens in Australia. Evidence of what large numbers of them are capable of. Safe haven status and the numbers swell both externally and internally.

 

[luutzu]

This is Australia not the Middle East. It is a free country to go to any place one wants. You go to Chinatowns and no one is hiding from cameras and giving you nasty looks or police warning not to venture near the religious places. That woman exposed the true nature of extreme Islam. The presence of a critique creates automatic wrath. Get rid of that ideology from Australia.

If you go to Chinatown and randomly shirtfront a Chinese as to why s/he is taking over the entire South China Sea; why s/he is alright with beating up the Uighur; or why does the Chinese culture condone human rights abuse, food contamination and generally making Donald Trump unhappy with unfair trades... I'd imagine you're going to have a very different experience than the usual Yum Cha experience where you'd only be outraged at the bill.

 

[luutzu]

The mere presence of that woman created such turmoil and hard to believe it happens in Australia. Evidence of what large numbers of them are capable of. Safe haven status and the numbers swell both externally and internally.

No it didn't. I saw the video. The only thing the Muslims did to her was walking in slow motion as she bravely walk down the main street.

 

[Wysiwyg]

No it didn't. I saw the video. The only thing the Muslims did to her was walking in slow motion as she bravely walk down the main street.

Yeah they're nut jobs as a collective. Their sympathisers are another breed altogether.

 

[Wysiwyg]

If you go to Chinatown and randomly shirtfront a Chinese as to why s/he is taking over the entire South China Sea; why s/he is alright with beating up the Uighur; or why does the Chinese culture condone human rights abuse, food contamination and generally making Donald Trump unhappy with unfair trades... I'd imagine you're going to have a very different experience than the usual Yum Cha experience where you'd only be outraged at the bill.

Comparison crap. Justification garbage.

 

[Tisme]

No it didn't. I saw the video. The only thing the Muslims did to her was walking in slow motion as she bravely walk down the main street.

 

[Tisme]

 

[Tisme]

My long term held belief and probably an archaic Australian tradition that has been thrown under a bus.

Resiliance is the key.

 

[luutzu]

Yeah they're nut jobs as a collective. Their sympathisers are another breed altogether.

Why are they a nutjob as a collective?

No other country or culture have terrorists? Warriors? War criminals? Only Islam breeds them?

Other culture have a superior religion that doesn't preach hate and discrimination? Other religion believe in real and good things while all Islam is is about hate?

If you want to believe such things, you should switch off the mainstream news and get your information from history books.

 

[luutzu]

That guy should be careful bashing Muslims. He could easily be mistaken for one. So when the fence comes up they might not believe he's a more superior Jew and lock him up anyway.

So there's a White girl walking around, and surviving, a "no go zone" full of Muslim. There's an Israeli guy working in Lakemba for a few years, knocking on doors and everyone knowing he's a Jew.

They both survived to tell the tale... but Lakemba is still no-go and implementing Sharia.

Something doesn't make sense there.

 

[Wysiwyg]

Why are they a nutjob as a collective?

No other country or culture have terrorists? Warriors? War criminals? Only Islam breeds them?

Other culture have a superior religion that doesn't preach hate and discrimination? Other religion believe in real and good things while all Islam is is about hate?

If you want to believe such things, you should switch off the mainstream news and get your information from history books.

Other countries deal with their issues. My defence is of the freer society that Australia is which is being undermined by adherents to a religion of garbage. This is Australia and those other countries will surely welcome the same types. QF634 is leaving soon.

 

[luutzu]

Other countries deal with their issues. My defence is of the freer society that Australia is which is being undermined by adherents to a religion of garbage. This is Australia and those other countries will surely welcome the same types. QF634 is leaving soon.

A free and open society mean one where its citizens and visitors are free and open to practise their beliefs and interests - as long as such beliefs do not infringe on the rights, safety etc. of others.

It shouldn't mean practise and do what you want as long as it's the main one.

 

[Wysiwyg]

My long term held belief and probably an archaic Australian tradition that has been thrown under a bus.

Resiliance is the key.

Insults that attract hate and wrath are not the smartest thing to do. Sure it does exposes the true nature of the underlying but not helpful. True blues love receiving a well intentioned insult. They would laugh the insulter under the table.

 

[Wysiwyg]

A free and open society mean one where its citizens and visitors are free and open to practise their beliefs and interests - as long as such beliefs do not infringe on the rights, safety etc. of others.

It shouldn't mean practise and do what you want as long as it's the main one.

So integration with the "Australian" way of life is happening at La Kemba? Their religion is all consuming and taken to the literal Nth. That area is no longer Australian turf it is Muslim turf.

 

[Wysiwyg]

When will it be admitted that some cultures are too different to ever be able to integrate.

 

[luutzu]

So integration with the "Australian" way of life is happening at La Kemba? Their religion is all consuming and taken to the literal Nth. That area is no longer Australian turf it is Muslim turf.

I'm not a Muslim and I live in La K'Akba quite normally. No need to convert or anything.

 

[wayneL]

I'm not a Muslim and I live in La K'Akba quite normally. No need to convert or anything.

Not yet....