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basilio said:
Given the way you and some of your mates behave on ASF I'm pretty sure most women have fled in disgust. They have enough problems arguing with the idiots in their own lives without taking on the rich blend of toxicity being bred on some of these threads.:D

Again, what prevents you from questioning the content of my argument about looking at some elements of male behaviour as toxic rather than suggesting the phrase refers to all men?
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I'm sure we all want the real abusers punished appropriately. I just don't think that a proper standard of proof is a woman saying "he did it". Women have been known to lie for revenge or whatever.

There still needs to be evidence tp produce a verdict "beyond reasonable doubt".
 
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basilio said:
Given the way you and some of your mates behave on ASF I'm pretty sure most women have fled in disgust. They have enough problems arguing with the idiots in their own lives without taking on the rich blend of toxicity being bred on some of these threads.:D

Again, what prevents you from questioning the content of my argument about looking at some elements of male behaviour as toxic rather than suggesting the phrase refers to all men?
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Which particular elements, of male specific behaviour, are you declaring to be toxic?
 
cynic said:
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Which particular elements, of male specific behaviour, are you declaring to be toxic?
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This is exactly right.
Anything "masculine" seems to be lumped in as toxic. The moderates tend to get drowned out.
 
moXJO said:
This is exactly right.
Anything "masculine" seems to be lumped in as toxic. The moderates tend to get drowned out.
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I think it might be even worse than that!

Anything toxic seems to somehow be automatically presumed to be of masculine origin (e.g. domestic violence)!!
 
I find myself nodding in agreement with those above, except bas.

I think there can be toxic elements of masculinity. In my profession you see rather a lot of it in those struggling to succeed, but it might be the demographic it generally draws from (as opposed to where it should draw from).

Its about as masculine as it gets... Tools, utes, red hot steel, animal big enough to kill you in a heart beat, perpetually carrying injuries, lots of scars, etc.

Yet, our clients are mostly female, and guess what? They love the masculinity, they love that we have the the skills, strength and courage to get under a 600kg ball of fight or flight and are able to keep emotionally level while risking our 4ss and sometimes getting smashed, only to come back for more to get the job done.

This is no statement of FIGJAM, it's common in lots of male dominated professions.

But hear this; for every toxic male, for every incident of toxic masculinity, there is a toxic female and and incident if toxic femininity.

Yes indeed, the girls can be just as poisonous as the guys, ask any woman... or man, that has been on the receiving end of it.

So if we must make toxic masculinity a fecking big issue, as the post modernists insist we do, then so must also make a big issue about toxic femininity, misandry, agendized political feminism.

Clementine Ford anyone?

So unless these toxic women are prepared to take a blow torch to the belly, like they expect men to, then I for one am not listening.

They can go and get well and truly stuffed (not reasonable women, beautiful in heart and soul, you understand)

And you know what, our wives will right beside us in the condemnation.
 
TikoMike said:
It’s official: Australia is not dangerous for women

https://www.spectator.com.au/2018/06/its-official-australia-is-not-dangerous-for-women/

But feminists here in Australia will still try to push the Duluth model scam.
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I think the attitude goes that if it wasn't for women there'd be no population, plus they don't exist, at any level for the pleasure of men.

Many of those feminists look a bit crusty to me and perhaps its a good thing they have something else to do, like placard waving, if only for male ocular health!:D
 
Tisme said:
I don't know what family norm they predicated that series on, but I do know the women in my household were more than equal, worked and we all pitched in. Of course in those days a house was a place to eat and sleep between earning a quid and going out.

Woman back through my Oz generations have never been doormats and the men have never been ringmasters. Which is probably why I respect and like women as opposed to the simpering imposters who get joy out of painting men as monsters.
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Same in my family. I get sick and tired of feminists saying how terrible life was for women in previous times, guess what, it was crap for men too, bet it wasn't much fun going down a mine for your entire life starting from age 10! From what I know of my grandmothers' lives and stories from even further back the women in my family had enjoyable and fulfilling lives same as the men, albeit with plenty of hardships thrown in.

I called myself a feminist once upon a time but do not identify anymore with what feminism is these days. Yes, some men are horrible, smart women know to give these ones a wide berth and seek out the good ones.
 
Barry Halls comment.
Wittiest line ever, or most disgusting thing ever heard?

He must have had a brain fade saying that on tv.
 
You have to understand what these blokes did for a living prior to radio
Are you really surprised?
 
That was a shared effort of shooting themselves in the foot. The outrage machine went into over drive.
Threats to halls wife and kid a bit far. But that seems to be the price these days.
 
It will be a glorious day, when men no longer feel lust for a woman, then there will be true equality.
Just imagine the harmony, if we can remove the sexual act, the child incubation and birth, from humans to a laboratory.
Then we could breed humans, that didn't have an underlying need for the other. Women wouldn't need a man to provide for them, and men wouldn't have the underlying urge for a woman.
Then we could just get on with fighting each other, for jobs. lol
 
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sptrawler said:
It will be a glorious day, when men no longer feel lust for a woman, then there will be true equality.
Just imagine the harmony, if we can remove the sexual act, the child incubation and birth, from humans to a laboratory.
Then we could breed humans, that didn't have an underlying need for the other. Women wouldn't need a man to provide for them, and men wouldn't have the underlying urge for a woman.
Then we could just get on with fighting each other, for jobs. lol
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That would open the door for real subjugation of the female form........ especially given the traditions of the two major emerging nations India and China, plus Islam.
 
sptrawler said:
It will be a glorious day, when men no longer feel lust for a woman, then there will be true equality.
Just imagine the harmony, if we can remove the sexual act, the child incubation and birth, from humans to a laboratory.
Then we could breed humans, that didn't have an underlying need for the other. Women wouldn't need a man to provide for them, and men wouldn't have the underlying urge for a woman.

Then we could just get on with fighting each other, for jobs. lol
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I reckon that would be the saddest day in the history of the planet (which I suspect might be your point)
 
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