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basilio said:
I was wondering when the rape and murder of Euridice Dixon was going to be mentioned on ASF. Very , very sad, to see it used to beat up feminism.
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You're an idealist bas, but the reality is out there and can't be dismissed with the wave of a hand and trite statements like "men should change their behaviour" as if all men are at fault.

A large number of these assailants would no doubt have mental health issues and changing their behaviour is impossible because they have no control over it in the first place.

Everyone has a right to be free of crime, but we just aren't, that's the reality. Society has to start looking after each other, the feminists want it divided into men v women.
 
So perhaps Rumpy instead of trite comments like "men should change their behaviour " we should say something really intelligent like

" Women shouldn't walk in dark places. " or " Don't trust men you don't know " or perhaps " Be careful about men you do know (because in fact women are most likely to be abused/bashed/raped by men they know ". Any other thoughts ?

A friend and colleague has been in tears since the murder of Euridice. He taught her in primary school. He later gave her private tuition as an artist. Her family, friends, colleagues are devestated. If you chose to read the story from The Guardian you might have recognised a womens persepective.

To dismiss these attackers as people with "mental issues" is another cop out. It ignores the "normal" attackers. The Harvey Weinsteins, the guys who use Ropynal to stupify and rape women. It ignores the "alpha males" who lord about being as rude, crude and sexist as they can get away with and daring anyway to pull them up.

Alpha males ? Just absolute xxxxing tossers.

The stories of women in The Guardian story bear a read. Check them out.
How dare we exist in spaces at night?’
‘There are demons in the dark’
‘Trust us when we tell you that the fear is real’
‘I am permanently vigilant’
‘There’s creeps everywhere you go

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jun/15/we-all-have-a-right-to-walk-home-safely

And if you are interested in the bigger picture of reducing aggression between men and women this site is good value.

CHANGE the STORY

A shared framework for the primary
prevention of violence against women
and their children in Australia

https://www.ourwatch.org.au/getmedi...event-violence-women-children-AA-new.pdf.aspx

 
basilio said:
" Women shouldn't walk in dark places. " or " Don't trust men you don't know " or perhaps " Be careful about men you do know (because in fact women are most likely to be abused/bashed/raped by men they know ".
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That would be sensible advice that I would give to a daughter.
 
Who was the other Woman raped and Murdered in Melbourne by that psychopath Bailey now serving Life? He stated that when he met her that night that she would be nice then psychologically abusive to him. That psychological abuse and her somewhat provocative dress (short skirt) were enough to provoke an already unstable person to do such an horrendous thing. Yes, I know he may be lying. But, from my experience Feminists are very good at psychological abuse which can be enough to tip extreme people.

"We all have the right to walk home safely". What a load of sheet!!! I lived in constant fear as a Child. That's why I, along with most other Males, did weights, Martial Arts and Boxing.
 
Women generally raise men from birth onwards. The school system then takes over and thats female dominant.
So those crucial years women have a massive influence. It's not like women don't have the opportunity to change behavior. If anything they cause a lot of it.
 

Yes, lack of good male role models in schools could be part of the problem.
 


Well this takes us into another rabbit warren doesn't it ? From these comments are we suggesting that "feminists" in particular and women generally are the root cause of mens bad behaviour ?

We just finished a Royal Commission into Child sexual abuse in institutions. Thousands of children were abused in Churches, schools, orphanages, childrens homes in fact every institution it seems in Australia.

Were these abuses the result of "feminists" in particular and/or women in general as well ?
 
The complaint that men need to change. Despite the fact women raise them and have plenty of time to modify young mens behavior. So whats going on?
Its not all on men. Women need to come to the table as well.

Bad parenting doesn't help and bad fathering more so.

I think the majority of 3rd wave feminists are fckwits by the way. I'm for equality, but thats not what they are selling.
 

FFS another opportunity to glorify yourself.
 
Tisme said:
FFS another opportunity to glorify yourself.
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Tosser..

Perhaps it would have just been gracious to acknowledge the horror of Eurydice death rather than suggesting that feminism in particular and women in general were somehow responsible for her rape and murder.
 
basilio said:
Perhaps it would have just been gracious to acknowledge the horror of Eurydice death rather than suggesting that feminism in particular and women in general were somehow responsible for her rape and murder.
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It's a too complex a problem to say anything one thing is wholly responsible. There's a lot of misogyny going around from shock jocks, police, army louts , and a certain religious minority that definitely has an impact as well imo.
 
basilio said:
Tosser..

Perhaps it would have just been gracious to acknowledge the horror of Eurydice death rather than suggesting that feminism in particular and women in general were somehow responsible for her rape and murder.
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See this is the problem you and macca diminish others to puff out your chests. You are nasty individuals who hate and I mean hate. You crawl over others misery to inflate your own self worth byu implying common sense is an evil concept.

Next argument will be that I'm a rapist because I don't agree that women should put their way in harms way.

When was the last time you sent your daughter out in the night to prove a point, to be sacrificed for your utopian ideal?

I had enough of you when you started running off complaining about your precious feelings being hurt, even though it is you with the vitriol and viscious insults/ Don't crawl over my posts to make out you are the guardian of truth, just admit both of you are cowards and move on.
 
The Gospel of Women according to Tisme.

I think it's a bit rich. Tisme offers some of the most offensive observations about women as per one of his gospel pieces above. They are posted as part of his "Chief tosser" role on ASF.

And then.. he is concerned about me trawling through his nasty little comments and reminding us what he says.
 
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Tisme said:
See this is the problem you and macca diminish others to puff out your chests. You are nasty individuals who hate and I mean hate. .
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How did I get a mention ? I have been away for months and haven't posted in that time.

For what it is worth, there are plenty of places that neither male or female should be walking around alone at midnight if they are prudent.

I know of many places that I wouldn't walk alone that late at night.
 
And with that lets move on.
 
I don't know any Men who abuse Women. But I do know Men who are just as bad as their Partners when it comes to being nasty, but generally the Woman always wins. I do know one big Bloke who took out a DVO against his GF. This particular Women scares every bloke I know lol.

Generally speaking, we live in a Female dominant society now IMO. Extreme cases like these tragic murders etc are "outliers" which just give the Feminists more opportunities to scream and shout and keep their heels well and truly on Men's throats in everyday situations.
 
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