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This was (Dr.) Jordon Peterson at his best. He was totally brilliant in this interview. Cathy Newman put so many of her words in Jordan's mouth, he corrected her with calm reason, intelligence and self-discipline that actually enabled him to present his case clearly, confidently, and concisely.

Watch the original here. Well worth watching and a lesson on how to handle a provocative/aggressive feminist.

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Well worth watching videos by Jordon Peterson.


And they wonder why women are dismissed when these discussions take place. She reminds me of my siblings who always used gender for their own lack of talent in various spheres.

Where's a SJW when you need one!!!
 
After watching the above video
all non-fascists, non-antifas, non left wing, non ABC loving, non MSM
i.e. most ordinary and sensible people should watch this...

 
Sensitive deconstruction of the various reasons women find feminism:

 
Interesting article on the persecution of boys in the DV debate

I think it's about time you got with the program...how fun would this be. I'm thinking of getting a pink jumper and wear it over shoulder with loose knot,


How to Be a Feminist As a Man
Three Parts:Reading Up on Feminist IssuesHaving Supportive Discussions with FeministsDisplaying Feminist Behavior in Your Relationships with WomenCommunity Q&A

The feminist movement focuses on the need for action to achieve equality of the sexes and other gender identities.[1] If you are a heterosexual man, you may find it difficult to support the women around you and your female romantic partners. As feminism continues to evolve and become more mainstream, many men are identifying as feminists and are taking the necessary steps to act as allies for women in their day-to-day lives.[2]

read on:

https://www.wikihow.com/Be-a-Feminist-As-a-Man
 
I think it's about time you got with the program...how fun would this be. I'm thinking of getting a pink jumper and wear it over shoulder with loose knot,
The material is a little concerning, as it contains ideas that are easily 30 years out of date. Feminism has matured and moved on, as women's rights have grown. This sort of language seems divisive, and isn't helpful:
https://www.wikihow.com/Be-a-Feminist-As-a-Man
...As a result of the patriarchal system, individuals who are not heterosexual men (including women) are discriminated against or are not given fair treatment.[4]
...This means that as a man, you are entitled to higher wages than women... and have access to financial and social support that is not extended to women. Because you benefit from male privilege as a man, it is important that you acknowledge this privilege in your discussions with feminists.[8]...
 
I think it's about time you got with the program...how fun would this be. I'm thinking of getting a pink jumper and wear it over shoulder with loose knot,
Don't forget to cap that with a miniature white poodle, thats fed on an all vegan diet.
See you at the cafe for a soy latte, where we can discuss intersectional feminism.
 


One of the reasons many coppers in the USofA are man mountains

Fairly obvious the problem there is that someone forgot to tell the perp that he must quota his aggression based on the gender of the coppers. Someone f$%ked up royally not explaining that to him when they let him in.
 
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https://www.theaustralian.com.au/ne...s/news-story/44137b74c67ab4a3da2828ba3806dab6

Of course there's Clementine Ford and ABC presenter in the mix
Meanjin’s #MeToo snafu: journal editor apologises, contributors donate fees
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The cover of Meanjin that forced its editor to apologise. Picture: Supplied
It’s arguably the most woke literary journal in the country, but Meanjin’s editor, Jonathan Green, has been forced to apologise for the latest cover, which obliterates an indigenous word, in favour of the #MeToo hashtag.

Green, who is also an ABC presenter and former Sunday Age editor, says it was his “blindness” and “carelessness” that resulted in the word Meanjin — an indigenous word for the land upon which Brisbane now sits — on the June cover being crossed out, in order to make way for a hashtag, which in turn promotes an essay by the feminist writer, Clementine Ford.

“I regret it. It’s a reminder of my privilege to not see what now seems so obvious,” Mr Green said yesterday.

Ms Ford, and two other writers whose work appears in the issue, have also apologised for not seeing a problem with the cover when it first went to press and, in acknowledging the “ongoing trauma of whiteness in this country” have pledged to donate their fees to services for indigenous women.

Indigenous writer, Amy McQuire, was among the first to see, and draw attention to the offending cover on Twitter, saying: “Given the destruction of land, cultures and language is fundamentally tied to violence against Aboriginal women … it feels weird to see (the word) Meanjin crossed out in this way.”

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    ‘What #MeToo must do next’AFP
Green responded immediately, saying: “I should have seen that … there’s a carelessness there that I didn’t intend.”

He quickly posted a longer note to Meanjin’s website. Such was the traffic, the website momentarily crashed.

“As Amy McQuire and others have pointed out, there is a problem with the cover of Meanjin’s winter edition,” Mr Green wrote.

“This blindness to the subtext of obliterating the word Meanjin with the hashtag #MeToo was mine. I wanted to give the most arresting treatment I could … I was wrong to do it.”


Amy McQuire

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https://twitter.com/amymcquire/status/1003461294312181760

Given the destruction of land, cultures and language is fundamentally tied to violence against Aboriginal women... it feels weird to see Meanjin crossed out in this way. https://twitter.com/tessmconnelly/status/1003459535904706561 …

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Mr Green’s apology acknowledged that Meanjin — the Turrbal word, which has been the magazine’s title since its foundation in 1940 — “shouldn’t have been mine to obliterate in a design flourish.”

He added: “Compounding that error was the complex story of the #MeToo movement, a movement created a decade ago by American woman of colour Tarana Burke.

“In Australian context, where violence against indigenous women should be a source of national soul searching, anger and concern, the casual obliteration of a proud indigenous word with the hashtag of a movement dominated latterly by white women was a gesture of unthinking clumsiness.

“I should, therefore, have known better. We work with words: the power of this erasure should not have been lost on us.”

Writer Anna Spargo-Ryan, whose essay is blurbed on the cover, also put a note of remorse out on Twitter, on behalf of herself, and Ms Ford, who is “currently on a Tweet ban, but this statement comes from us jointly.”

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Clementine Ford.
Their statement said: “We want to acknowledge the deep hurt caused by the Meanjin cover … we are ashamed to know we didn’t immediately spot the problems.

“This was a massive fail on our part, and it’s simply unacceptable that we have to rely on the work of Aboriginal women to realise this.”

As white women, and writers whose names featured on the cover, they wanted to acknowledge “this is part of ongoing trauma of whiteness in this country.”

Both have decided “not to profit” from the hurt they believed they caused, and will donate their fees to services that assist Aboriginal women.

Writer Harry Saddler, whose work also appears in the June issue, likewise apologised, saying: “I need to hold my hand up & say that in promoting my piece in this issue I also failed to notice the obvious problem with the cover until indigenous people pointed it out. I should have seen it.

He added: “I’ve seen that a couple of contributors to this issue have said they’ll donate the payments for their pieces to indigenous (organisations) and I really wish I could do the same … but I’m having wisdom teeth surgery this month & it’ll cost me $1000, so to be honest I really need the money.”

Indigenous writer Karen Wyld said she was hurt by the “white out” of the Aboriginal word in favour of “white feminism” and asked white women not to contribute ideas for how donations could be spent, saying: “A donation to an Aboriginal women’s organisation has been mentioned as a way of righting a wrong — and random white women are already tweeting suggestions where this money should go. Can you just f?&^g not?”
 
Haha.... feminists.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...ory.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.25997f2a287a

I like their comment rules:

What type of posts should I avoid?
Partisan stereotypes or generalizations.

The best comments avoid generalizing groups of people. Comments stating “all conservatives” or “all liberals” do little to provide thoughtful conversations about the issues at hand.

Of course, this rule applies to areas outside of politics. We don’t allow comments that degrade others on the basis of gender, race, class, ethnicity, political beliefs, national origin, religion, sexual orientation, disability or other classifications.
 
Haha.... feminists.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...ory.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.25997f2a287a

I like their comment rules:

What type of posts should I avoid?
Partisan stereotypes or generalizations.

The best comments avoid generalizing groups of people. Comments stating “all conservatives” or “all liberals” do little to provide thoughtful conversations about the issues at hand.

Of course, this rule applies to areas outside of politics. We don’t allow comments that degrade others on the basis of gender, race, class, ethnicity, political beliefs, national origin, religion, sexual orientation, disability or other classifications.

Well it's those women who are perpetuating the vermin by having males babies. They're the ones who have to have gala weddings celebrating the union of an ar5ehole and a women, even putting on a uniform in the shape of a white dress. They're the ones who compete and crush other women in competition for the alpha dickhed using deception, lipstick, bling, dress and the implicit promise of some jigagig as their lures.

Ever watch a clutch of women having a gathering and you see assassin like smiles lipping banal, double speak, subterfuge and combativeness, all served with an after party quantity of back stabbing, white anting and impudence. The best a male does is just tell his mates that buggerlugs is a vvanker. :D

I believe it's this highly competitive nature of females to be number one women in a male's focus, that the primary reason they (femmes de force) have built rules of engagement is to control the chaos of the mating game and spitefully relegate the status of men in the process. The secondary issues to them, which should be primary ones, is personal development, wealth opportunity, safety, esteem, etc
 
Just wondering if feminism may be partly responsible for some horrendous murders of women in lonely places.

All this talk about "women should be able to go wherever they want" seems like false bravado to me.

There are ratbags out there who prey on lone women and the police can't be everywhere, so should the feminists get real about the dangers ?

I'm sure there are lots of men who would volunteer to see a lady safely home, but then the feminists stick there noses in and screech "we don't need men, we can protect ourselves".

The fems are doing more harm than good imo.
 
Just wondering if feminism may be partly responsible for some horrendous murders of women in lonely places.

All this talk about "women should be able to go wherever they want" seems like false bravado to me.

There are ratbags out there who prey on lone women and the police can't be everywhere, so should the feminists get real about the dangers ?

I'm sure there are lots of men who would volunteer to see a lady safely home, but then the feminists stick there noses in and screech "we don't need men, we can protect ourselves".

The fems are doing more harm than good imo.

Naive if you ask me. A women alone thinking she is safe on dark streets is immediately betting her welfare and life on there not being a predator on the lookout for a victim.
 
I was wondering when the rape and murder of Euridice Dixon was going to be mentioned on ASF. Very , very sad, to see it used to beat up feminism.

How has this tragedy affected women? What should we be doing ?

Women respond to Eurydice Dixon murder: 'We all have a right to walk home safely'
Six women reflect on the death of a talented Melbourne comedian as she walked home late at night

Jane Caro, Nayuka Gorrie, Freya Logan, Kripa Krithivasan, Rebecca Cameron, Ingrid Smith

Fri 15 Jun 2018 09.20 BST First published on Fri 15 Jun 2018 08.07 BST



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‘Another young woman, bursting with potential, on the brink of her adult life, going about her business killed by a man who regarded her as an object.’ Photograph: Julian Smith/AAP
Eurydice Dixon was a young comedian, who is remembered as a talented performer and “remarkable” young woman with a bright future. She walked home after performing a comedy gig on Tuesday night. Her body was found on Wednesday morning in Melbourne’s Princes Park, and Jaymes Todd, 19, has since been charged with her rape and murder.

Her death has prompted women across the country to talk about victim blaming, moving around their cities at night and being sick of having to live in fear.

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‘We need men of goodwill to demand respect for women’
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jun/15/we-all-have-a-right-to-walk-home-safely


 
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