This was (Dr.) Jordon Peterson at his best. He was totally brilliant in this interview. Cathy Newman put so many of her words in Jordan's mouth, he corrected her with calm reason, intelligence and self-discipline that actually enabled him to present his case clearly, confidently, and concisely.
Watch the original here. Well worth watching and a lesson on how to handle a provocative/aggressive feminist.
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Well worth watching videos by Jordon Peterson.
Interesting article on the persecution of boys in the DV debate
How to Be a Feminist As a Man
Three Parts:Reading Up on Feminist IssuesHaving Supportive Discussions with FeministsDisplaying Feminist Behavior in Your Relationships with WomenCommunity Q&A
The feminist movement focuses on the need for action to achieve equality of the sexes and other gender identities.[1] If you are a heterosexual man, you may find it difficult to support the women around you and your female romantic partners. As feminism continues to evolve and become more mainstream, many men are identifying as feminists and are taking the necessary steps to act as allies for women in their day-to-day lives.[2]
read on:
https://www.wikihow.com/Be-a-Feminist-As-a-Man
The material is a little concerning, as it contains ideas that are easily 30 years out of date. Feminism has matured and moved on, as women's rights have grown. This sort of language seems divisive, and isn't helpful:I think it's about time you got with the program...how fun would this be. I'm thinking of getting a pink jumper and wear it over shoulder with loose knot,
https://www.wikihow.com/Be-a-Feminist-As-a-Man
...As a result of the patriarchal system, individuals who are not heterosexual men (including women) are discriminated against or are not given fair treatment.[4]
...This means that as a man, you are entitled to higher wages than women... and have access to financial and social support that is not extended to women. Because you benefit from male privilege as a man, it is important that you acknowledge this privilege in your discussions with feminists.[8]...
Don't forget to cap that with a miniature white poodle, thats fed on an all vegan diet.I think it's about time you got with the program...how fun would this be. I'm thinking of getting a pink jumper and wear it over shoulder with loose knot,
Meanjin’s #MeToo snafu: journal editor apologises, contributors donate fees
The cover of Meanjin that forced its editor to apologise. Picture: Supplied
It’s arguably the most woke literary journal in the country, but Meanjin’s editor, Jonathan Green, has been forced to apologise for the latest cover, which obliterates an indigenous word, in favour of the #MeToo hashtag.
- The Australian
- 12:06AM June 5, 2018
- CAROLINE OVERINGTON
Associate Editor
Sydney
@overingtonc
Green, who is also an ABC presenter and former Sunday Age editor, says it was his “blindness” and “carelessness” that resulted in the word Meanjin — an indigenous word for the land upon which Brisbane now sits — on the June cover being crossed out, in order to make way for a hashtag, which in turn promotes an essay by the feminist writer, Clementine Ford.
“I regret it. It’s a reminder of my privilege to not see what now seems so obvious,” Mr Green said yesterday.
Ms Ford, and two other writers whose work appears in the issue, have also apologised for not seeing a problem with the cover when it first went to press and, in acknowledging the “ongoing trauma of whiteness in this country” have pledged to donate their fees to services for indigenous women.
Indigenous writer, Amy McQuire, was among the first to see, and draw attention to the offending cover on Twitter, saying: “Given the destruction of land, cultures and language is fundamentally tied to violence against Aboriginal women … it feels weird to see (the word) Meanjin crossed out in this way.”
Green responded immediately, saying: “I should have seen that … there’s a carelessness there that I didn’t intend.”
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‘What #MeToo must do next’AFP
He quickly posted a longer note to Meanjin’s website. Such was the traffic, the website momentarily crashed.
“As Amy McQuire and others have pointed out, there is a problem with the cover of Meanjin’s winter edition,” Mr Green wrote.
“This blindness to the subtext of obliterating the word Meanjin with the hashtag #MeToo was mine. I wanted to give the most arresting treatment I could … I was wrong to do it.”
Amy McQuire
✔@amymcquire
https://twitter.com/amymcquire/status/1003461294312181760
Given the destruction of land, cultures and language is fundamentally tied to violence against Aboriginal women... it feels weird to see Meanjin crossed out in this way. https://twitter.com/tessmconnelly/status/1003459535904706561 …
12:19 PM - Jun 4, 2018
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Mr Green’s apology acknowledged that Meanjin — the Turrbal word, which has been the magazine’s title since its foundation in 1940 — “shouldn’t have been mine to obliterate in a design flourish.”
He added: “Compounding that error was the complex story of the #MeToo movement, a movement created a decade ago by American woman of colour Tarana Burke.
“In Australian context, where violence against indigenous women should be a source of national soul searching, anger and concern, the casual obliteration of a proud indigenous word with the hashtag of a movement dominated latterly by white women was a gesture of unthinking clumsiness.
“I should, therefore, have known better. We work with words: the power of this erasure should not have been lost on us.”
Writer Anna Spargo-Ryan, whose essay is blurbed on the cover, also put a note of remorse out on Twitter, on behalf of herself, and Ms Ford, who is “currently on a Tweet ban, but this statement comes from us jointly.”
Clementine Ford.
Their statement said: “We want to acknowledge the deep hurt caused by the Meanjin cover … we are ashamed to know we didn’t immediately spot the problems.
“This was a massive fail on our part, and it’s simply unacceptable that we have to rely on the work of Aboriginal women to realise this.”
As white women, and writers whose names featured on the cover, they wanted to acknowledge “this is part of ongoing trauma of whiteness in this country.”
Both have decided “not to profit” from the hurt they believed they caused, and will donate their fees to services that assist Aboriginal women.
Writer Harry Saddler, whose work also appears in the June issue, likewise apologised, saying: “I need to hold my hand up & say that in promoting my piece in this issue I also failed to notice the obvious problem with the cover until indigenous people pointed it out. I should have seen it.
He added: “I’ve seen that a couple of contributors to this issue have said they’ll donate the payments for their pieces to indigenous (organisations) and I really wish I could do the same … but I’m having wisdom teeth surgery this month & it’ll cost me $1000, so to be honest I really need the money.”
Indigenous writer Karen Wyld said she was hurt by the “white out” of the Aboriginal word in favour of “white feminism” and asked white women not to contribute ideas for how donations could be spent, saying: “A donation to an Aboriginal women’s organisation has been mentioned as a way of righting a wrong — and random white women are already tweeting suggestions where this money should go. Can you just f?&^g not?”
This is one in a long list of examples of feminists being for white female power over equality.https://www.theaustralian.com.au/ne...s/news-story/44137b74c67ab4a3da2828ba3806dab6
Of course there's Clementine Ford and ABC presenter in the mix
Haha.... feminists.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...ory.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.25997f2a287a
I like their comment rules:
What type of posts should I avoid?
Partisan stereotypes or generalizations.
The best comments avoid generalizing groups of people. Comments stating “all conservatives” or “all liberals” do little to provide thoughtful conversations about the issues at hand.
Of course, this rule applies to areas outside of politics. We don’t allow comments that degrade others on the basis of gender, race, class, ethnicity, political beliefs, national origin, religion, sexual orientation, disability or other classifications.
Merit is code for status quo when appointing board members according to the ABC.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-13/gender-double-standard-in-corporate-australia/9861516
Feminism has been around since Adam was a girl
Just wondering if feminism may be partly responsible for some horrendous murders of women in lonely places.
All this talk about "women should be able to go wherever they want" seems like false bravado to me.
There are ratbags out there who prey on lone women and the police can't be everywhere, so should the feminists get real about the dangers ?
I'm sure there are lots of men who would volunteer to see a lady safely home, but then the feminists stick there noses in and screech "we don't need men, we can protect ourselves".
The fems are doing more harm than good imo.
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