Federal Labor Party discussion

[sptrawler]

Re: Rudd Mk2 Government

What a disgrace, this clown has created a new Ministry for International Development.

It aim, as reported in the news, to encourage as much spenditure on foreign aid as possible.

We are $270B in the hole and Rudd wants to create a whole new level of bureaucracy and send even more of our dollars off shore. Dollars that could be paying down our national debt.

Where are the extra foreign aid dollars going to come from?

Makes him look good in the eyes of the UN doesn't it? Which is still his end goal.

He has been quoted as saying his financial mantra is now 'economic responsibility'

He hasn't changed and hasn't learnt a thing.

Give it a couple of weeks, people will get sick of his nonsense.
At the moment they think he's a magician, pulling rabbits out of the hat.
Two weeks time, they will see him as the clown.IMO

 

[Purple XS2]

With Parliament in recess - and probably won't be recalled during the remainder of Rudd II, that leaves executive/ministerial decision making under existing legislation as the theatre of operations for the PM.

Abbott & the lib-nats would really want to have their heads screwed on here: Rudd will do anything to get himself noticed as the man-in-charge, and the caucus, having stuffed his carcass on the horse a la El Cid, are now utterly incapable of reining him in.

So Rudd will therefore bait the libs with a few minor theatrics, to lure them into a nay-saying, carping posture, and then Rudd will do something utterly stupid and flamboyant: further criticism from the lib-nats will fall on tired ears in the electorate.

Abbott would be well advised to skip over minor provocations, and stick to character assassination: not just of Rudd: he's too obvious a target, but rather of the rest of the parliamentary ALP, whose (re-)appointment of Rudd is as irresponsible a collective decision as I've seen any bunch of pollies come up with.

It's grotesque. I'm not a coalition voter but the end of this sad, debased government can't come soon enough.

 

[Calliope]

Rudd made a big show of putting a record number of women in his ministry. But I am sure that the Rudd that we know of old will completely ignore them when it comes to important decisions. If he consults with anyone it will be the dominant males...Albanese, Bowen, Bourke, Butler, Shorten and Alpha female Wong, maybe.

If they complain he will throw a tantrum, and accuse them of trying to ratf**k him.

 

[sptrawler]

Is there anybody in the Labor Party who hasn't been a minister.lol

Will they will all qualify for an increased pension, due to their stint as a minister? Even if it's only from now untill the election.

 

[noco]

Re: Rudd Mk2 Government

+ 1. Same old Rudd. He has not changed one bit.

The latest Yahoo7 poll..............."SHOULD KEVIN RUDD PUSH BACK THE ELECTION DATE"?

NO.....69%.............YES.........31%

The latest Yahoo7 poll as at 8am est Tuesday.

NO.........83%...........YES........17%

I hope Rudd is getting the message. The longer he leaves it, the more people will get pi$$ed off with him.

 

[noco]

So Rudd calls himself an economic conserative, Well, that was back in 2007!!!!!!!!! "The reckless spending must stop", but it didn't, it became worse. Borrow plenty and spend up big. I would like to ask him what is his plan to pay back the money he and the Labor Party have borrowed

Come 2013. Ha big spender, spend a little time with the people of Australia and not overseas trying to impress the UN and other nations.

Judith Sloan sums up Rudd in a nut shell. He hasn't a clue on economics.



http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opi...omics-do-not-mix/story-fnbkvnk7-1226672791264

 

[noco]

So now we have a Muslim Labor MP with a Ministry.

I wonder how long it will take him to move a private members bill to introduce Sharia law?



http://au.news.yahoo.com/latest/a/-/latest/17833161/facebook-trolls-attack-mp-ed-husic/

 

[Country Lad]

So now we have a Muslim Labor MP with a Ministry.

I wonder how long it will take him to move a private members bill to introduce Sharia law?

So what is the evidence that he is an Islamist with extreme views rather than a person with a different religion to the majority?

Cheers
Country Lad

 

[bellenuit]

So what is the evidence that he is an Islamist with extreme views rather than a person with a different religion to the majority?

Cheers
Country Lad

I agree. I haven't heard him speak on any issues yet, but he has as much right to be in a ministry as any other Australian.

I don't agree with swearing in using the Quran though. Not because it's the Quron, I have the same issue with the Bible. We are a secular state so the "regalia" surrounding swearing in ceremonies should be of a secular nature. If people want to link their religion to a secular occasion, let them do it with friends and family at a private function after the event.

 

[Julia]

When we go to vote in all elections, are we even aware of any religious affiliation of the candidates?
Do we really care? I wouldn't have any idea about the religious beliefs of a single person I've voted for.

Agree the swearing in should be done without reference to any religious tome.

 

[basilio]

Rudd's back in the sights of the anti-Labour media propagandists. The latest story is a spread on all the high value real estate he owns which are "clearly at odds with the workers he is supposed to represent". Not surprisingly the story is being run with News Ltd papers. BRW and anyone else who wants to parrot a propaganda line.

Funny. Absolutely no mention of Therese Rein in the articles who almost certainly put up the lions share of the bickies for the properties via her $100million plus business.

But hey who gives a rats rectum if we can trash Labours new great white hope ?

PS. And did anyone notice how much the media made of Julia Gilliards very modest suburban home Altona when she was in the hot seat? Nah far easier to trash her with some other lie.

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=...fficial&client=firefox-a&channel=np&source=hp

 

[wayneL]

Rudd's back in the sights of the anti-Labour media propagandists. The latest story is a spread on all the high value real estate he owns which are "clearly at odds with the workers he is supposed to represent". Not surprisingly the story is being run with News Ltd papers. BRW and anyone else who wants to parrot a propaganda line.

Funny. Absolutely no mention of Therese Rein in the articles who almost certainly put up the lions share of the bickies for the properties via her $100million plus business.

But hey who gives a rats rectum if we can trash Labours new great white hope ?

PS. And did anyone notice how much the media made of Julia Gilliards very modest suburban home Altona when she was in the hot seat? Nah far easier to trash her with some other lie.

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=...fficial&client=firefox-a&channel=np&source=hp

Coming from one the most prodigious proliferaters of preposterous, pious, putrid and perfidious propaganda on ASF basilio, that's a bit rich... even from you ma'am.

 

[basilio]

Coming from one the most prodigious proliferaters of preposterous, pious, putrid and perfidious propaganda on ASF basilio, that's a bit rich... even from you ma'am.

Go xxxx yourself Wayne. I was pointing out how suddenly all the partisan media was singing in chorus about Kevins property .

No need to get personal. Stay nice.(if you can...):

 

[wayneL]

In your rude abuse, do I detect a hypocrisy of the greatest magnitude? Why yes, I think I do.

Noice! :

 

[basilio]

In your rude abuse, do I detect a hypocrisy of the greatest magnitude? Why yes, I think I do.

Noice! :

Ney .. I'm just not going to put up with personal abuse. You serve it up and you'll get it back in spades.
Lets respect the ethos of this wonderful online community, stick to the topics and not get nasty

 

[wayneL]

Ney .. I'm just not going to put up with personal abuse. You serve it up and you'll get it back in spades.
Lets respect the ethos of this wonderful online community, stick to the topics and not get nasty

Nasty? J'accuse! who told who to xxxx them self basilio after being busted for toxic cognitive bias?

 

[basilio]

Nasty? J'accuse! who told who to xxxx them self basilio after being busted for toxic cognitive bias?

I had it with your crap Wayne. Why not for once in your (very narrow) life stick to discussing a topic rather than bashing the person? Too much to ask ? Then I repeat - xxxx off.
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Where are the mods when you need them on this Forum. ? These last half dozen exchanges have been of no value and have just reduced the quality of discussion to a nasty bitch fight.

 

[moXJO]

I had it with your crap Wayne. Why not for once in your (very narrow) life stick to discussing a topic rather than bashing the person? Too much to ask ? Then I repeat - xxxx off.
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Where are the mods when you need them on this Forum. ? These last half dozen exchanges have been of no value and have just reduced the quality of discussion to a nasty bitch fight.

Bas it takes two to tango, just hit the ignore button and its conversation over.

 

[wayneL]

I had it with your crap Wayne. Why not for once in your (very narrow) life stick to discussing a topic rather than bashing the person? Too much to ask ? Then I repeat - xxxx off.
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Where are the mods when you need them on this Forum. ? These last half dozen exchanges have been of no value and have just reduced the quality of discussion to a nasty bitch fight.

Ma'am, my intitial post to you was on topic, even if obtusely so; pointing out that the accusation of anti-Rudd propaganda was laughable... on topic.

An analysis of the Rudd lifestyle is as pertinent as were the accusations of Abbott's purported misogyny (which was proven to be nothing more than McTernan dirty pool). If we are being asked to consider another Labor term with Rudd at the helm, we are entitled to examine his credos, via News, Scmoos, or whoever.

So no, I will not xxxx off, I will participate in the topic of the discussion whether you like it or not, whether that involves an expose' of your logic and/or bias or not.

 

[explod]

The press are looking pale and frustrated;

Abbott is stutterring Blah Blah Blah;

ASF high counters are frustrated and xxx ing each other;

So what has happenned; Krudd has arrived back on the scene cause Jules ran out of support/steam/etc;

The electorate have been so fed up with the lead up, cant keep up to the mortgage, sick of boat people talk and of course the Blah B xxx b lah blah.

And kruddy Kev is smiling, the press love the change, people are talking in the streets again, not sure what is happening but at least it is a bit like a Santa thype of thing. I'll vote for that.

And as I said last week, ALP at forthcoming election 55%, Libs 45%,

And like me ole mate Sir Les Patterson often says, "No xxxx xing worries pal"