wayneL
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I really appreciate these posts Komrade bas, very instructive.
Fake news and its effect on the community
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Your welcome Komrade Wayne...
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Bit of history on Fake News. IMO worth a read.
What is fake news? Its origins and how it grew in 2016
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Donald Trump at his first press conference as President-elect Credit: Seth Wenig/AP Photo
16 March 2017 • 1:57pm
It was at Donald Trump’s first press conference as President-elect when the term "fake news" broke out of media discussions and into the mainstream. "You are fake news!" he pointed at CNN’s Jim Acosta while refusing to listen to his question. Since then, the now President of the USA has been calling out major media outlets several times a week for being ‘FAKE NEWS’ via his Twitter feed - particularly CNN and the New York Times. But why is Donald Trump using the term ‘fake news’ so frequently, and where did it come from?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/0/fake-news-origins-grew-2016/
What is fake news? Its origins and how it grew in 2016
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Donald Trump at his first press conference as President-elect Credit: Seth Wenig/AP Photo
16 March 2017 • 1:57pm
It was at Donald Trump’s first press conference as President-elect when the term "fake news" broke out of media discussions and into the mainstream. "You are fake news!" he pointed at CNN’s Jim Acosta while refusing to listen to his question. Since then, the now President of the USA has been calling out major media outlets several times a week for being ‘FAKE NEWS’ via his Twitter feed - particularly CNN and the New York Times. But why is Donald Trump using the term ‘fake news’ so frequently, and where did it come from?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/0/fake-news-origins-grew-2016/
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That's been my point all along. Unless you start throwing people in gaol or fining them millions these things will go on.
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Are really people that naive to discover this as something new; is Saddam weapon of mass destruction that forgotten? Or does the Pravda even remind anyone how news can be used?
nothing new but the fact the leftist media is upset and will never comprehend how Trump could ever be elected;
At the same time, any picture of him is carefully selected (same here for Abbot on the ABC or news ltd)to have the worst angle or rictus.
Whether your are a Basilio or a Wayne, we are all subject to heavy manipulation, so just learn to use your brain and check facts, read european, aljazeera and russian/chinese news..and you may have a slight understanding of the facts, otherwise, just read the Guardian for Basilio or a far right leaflet if you are that minded and be happy with news always agreeing with you...surprise surprise
Facebook works the same obviously
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Do you ever read the Guardian to get a point of view that balances your pre conceived opinion ?
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Another analysis on how Google and You Tube find themself promoting fake news particularly after a massacre. I have also attached a you tube clip which expalins how this happens.
Google and YouTube promote fake news about Texas shooting suspect
Platforms offer search results that falsely say Devin Kelley was linked to anti-fascist and leftwing groups, a month after reforms at YouTube
People hammer in crosses at the VP Racing Fuels gas station just down the road from the First Baptist church of Sutherland Springs. Photograph: Mark Mulligan/AP
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Sam Levin in San Francisco
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Monday 6 November 2017 23.08 GMT First published on Monday 6 November 2017 20.57 GMT
Google and YouTube spread fake news and propaganda about a Texas mass shooting suspect, one month after the video-sharing site adopted reforms meant to restrict the promotion of misinformation during breaking news events.
Search results on both platforms have amplified the false news that Devin Kelley, the man accused of killing 26 people in a Sutherland Springs church on Sunday, was linked to anti-fascist and leftwing movements. Twitter also prominently promoted an article from a Russian state-funded news organization, which initially published unsubstantiated claims about Kelley’s political beliefs.
The rapid proliferation of fabricated politicized content has become a common feature of social media in the aftermath of mass shootings in the US. But the latest wave of propaganda in Texas was particularly significant given YouTube’s recent claims that it implemented changes to counter the problem and prioritize legitimate news during national tragedies.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/nov/06/google-youtube-texas-shooting-fake-news
Google and YouTube promote fake news about Texas shooting suspect
Platforms offer search results that falsely say Devin Kelley was linked to anti-fascist and leftwing groups, a month after reforms at YouTube
People hammer in crosses at the VP Racing Fuels gas station just down the road from the First Baptist church of Sutherland Springs. Photograph: Mark Mulligan/AP
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Sam Levin in San Francisco
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Monday 6 November 2017 23.08 GMT First published on Monday 6 November 2017 20.57 GMT
Google and YouTube spread fake news and propaganda about a Texas mass shooting suspect, one month after the video-sharing site adopted reforms meant to restrict the promotion of misinformation during breaking news events.
Search results on both platforms have amplified the false news that Devin Kelley, the man accused of killing 26 people in a Sutherland Springs church on Sunday, was linked to anti-fascist and leftwing movements. Twitter also prominently promoted an article from a Russian state-funded news organization, which initially published unsubstantiated claims about Kelley’s political beliefs.
The rapid proliferation of fabricated politicized content has become a common feature of social media in the aftermath of mass shootings in the US. But the latest wave of propaganda in Texas was particularly significant given YouTube’s recent claims that it implemented changes to counter the problem and prioritize legitimate news during national tragedies.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/nov/06/google-youtube-texas-shooting-fake-news
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I did via Basilio and other links and after a year or so made my mind, very similar to the Monde, pretending to be quality, but just fake news (actually not "FAKE news": only selecting snippets which favor a position, so a la ABC, I doubt the ABC purposely do fake news, it just enhances/suppresses filters to give an image suiting its view, more perverse.But the Guardian can not in any way be considered as impartial
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I don't think Fox News can be considered impartial either, so we maintain our entrenched positions.
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did I ever say that about Fox? I just can not believe this hype about fake news...same BS as 20 or 30 years ago, the only difference is that now with social media, people have the choice to bath in only their side of the story;Before they had to be force fed the mainstream viewsI don't think Fox News can be considered impartial either, so we maintain our entrenched positions.
so "Trump is evil" or" socialism is taking over"? thanks God I do not need to have 25y old journos who have lived and travelled less than I did to tell me how to think; and what I think is that an egalitarism de facade is taking over the west, and bringing mediocrity for all, while Russia and China are forging ahead; so Le Monde/the Guardian...no thanks, I have seen how your view brought the west down; as for the Fox news and the republican side in the US, well crooks and self interest before anything else; so not a solution either.
We need governments who put own country and citizen interest first...so sorry no green, LNP or Labour can fit there...And I do not need fake news to think!!!
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How good can constructed stories become ? At what stage can we be effectively decieved by what seems to "proof" that a person said something (they never actually said .)?
This article opens that conversation with a production already made.
AI Could Set Us Back 100 Years When It Comes to How We Consume News
Fake videos could become so convincing that we may have to get used to getting our news without them.
At EmTech MIT in Cambridge, MA, on Tuesday, Ian Goodfellow, a staff research scientist at Google Brain and one of MIT Technology Review’s Innovators Under 35, pointed out that it used to take enormous resources to produce fake images that might fool us. But AI technology like generative adversarial networks (GANs), a deep-learning system he developed, can create fake images and learn to make them more believable. As a result, it’s going to be easier to fool even more people.
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/...rs-when-it-comes-to-how-we-consume-news/?set=
As an example - even before the AI's get into swing. It's amateurish of course, but the upside of really good AI is immense.
As an example - even before
This article opens that conversation with a production already made.
AI Could Set Us Back 100 Years When It Comes to How We Consume News
Fake videos could become so convincing that we may have to get used to getting our news without them.
- by Jackie Snow
- November 7, 2017
At EmTech MIT in Cambridge, MA, on Tuesday, Ian Goodfellow, a staff research scientist at Google Brain and one of MIT Technology Review’s Innovators Under 35, pointed out that it used to take enormous resources to produce fake images that might fool us. But AI technology like generative adversarial networks (GANs), a deep-learning system he developed, can create fake images and learn to make them more believable. As a result, it’s going to be easier to fool even more people.
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/...rs-when-it-comes-to-how-we-consume-news/?set=
As an example - even before the AI's get into swing. It's amateurish of course, but the upside of really good AI is immense.
As an example - even before
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Yep, clever but frightening.
Maybe the US should produce a faked video of Kim saying he has just surrendered to the USA and broadcast it all over NK.
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http://joannenova.com.au/2017/11/th...myth-that-trump-obstructs-satellite-research/
Here's something for the leftists to ignore
Here's something for the leftists to ignore
Opinion piece by Washington post.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...poisoning-new-zealand/?utm_term=.3494bb3c2d81
Possibly the worst fact checked piece I have ever read. The writer literally didn't even look at the pictures to get the gist of it.
Propaganda at its finest.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...poisoning-new-zealand/?utm_term=.3494bb3c2d81
Possibly the worst fact checked piece I have ever read. The writer literally didn't even look at the pictures to get the gist of it.
Propaganda at its finest.
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What happens when conservative groups doing undercover investigations of "liberal" media start to create lies ?
It does pay to check your story, check the evidence.
Washington Post catches woman in apparent rightwing sting, paper reports
Jaime Phillips, who falsely told paper Roy Moore had impregnated her, had ties to conservative activist James O’Keefe’s Project Veritas, Post says
The Washington Post newsroom. The paper published a story about its dealings with a woman who claimed to have been impregnated by Roy Moore. Photograph: Brendan Smialowski/AFP/Getty Images
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Tuesday 28 November 2017 01.01 GMT Last modified on Tuesday 28 November 2017 01.59 GMT
A conservative group known for undercover investigations has been linked to a woman who falsely told the Washington Post that the Alabama Senate candidate Roy Moore impregnated her as a teenager, the newspaper reported.
Moore has been accused of multiple instances of sexual misconduct, which the newspaper had reported on. But the Post determined that one accuser who approached the newspaper earlier in the month, identified as Jaime Phillips, made up a fake story probably designed to embarrass the newspaper.
The Post published a story Monday about its dealings with Phillips. Earlier in the day, reporters from the newspaper saw Phillips walking into the New York offices of Project Veritas, a conservative group with a long track record of targeting Democratic groups and major media outlets, often by hiding their identities and using hidden cameras.
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The Post reported Monday afternoon that Phillips had approached one of its reporters earlier in the month as Moore faced several accusations of sexual misconduct. In a series of interviews over two weeks, Phillips told the Post about an alleged sexual relationship with Moore in 1992 that led to an abortion when she was 15.
She repeatedly pressed Post reporters to give their opinions on the effects that her claims could have on Moore’s candidacy if she went public, the newspaper reported. The Post did not publish Phillips’ claims and confronted her with inconsistencies in her story. She told the Post she was not working with any organization that targets journalists.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/nov/27/washington-post-project-veritas-sting-report
It does pay to check your story, check the evidence.
Washington Post catches woman in apparent rightwing sting, paper reports
Jaime Phillips, who falsely told paper Roy Moore had impregnated her, had ties to conservative activist James O’Keefe’s Project Veritas, Post says
The Washington Post newsroom. The paper published a story about its dealings with a woman who claimed to have been impregnated by Roy Moore. Photograph: Brendan Smialowski/AFP/Getty Images
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Associated Press
Tuesday 28 November 2017 01.01 GMT Last modified on Tuesday 28 November 2017 01.59 GMT
A conservative group known for undercover investigations has been linked to a woman who falsely told the Washington Post that the Alabama Senate candidate Roy Moore impregnated her as a teenager, the newspaper reported.
Moore has been accused of multiple instances of sexual misconduct, which the newspaper had reported on. But the Post determined that one accuser who approached the newspaper earlier in the month, identified as Jaime Phillips, made up a fake story probably designed to embarrass the newspaper.
The Post published a story Monday about its dealings with Phillips. Earlier in the day, reporters from the newspaper saw Phillips walking into the New York offices of Project Veritas, a conservative group with a long track record of targeting Democratic groups and major media outlets, often by hiding their identities and using hidden cameras.
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The Post reported Monday afternoon that Phillips had approached one of its reporters earlier in the month as Moore faced several accusations of sexual misconduct. In a series of interviews over two weeks, Phillips told the Post about an alleged sexual relationship with Moore in 1992 that led to an abortion when she was 15.
She repeatedly pressed Post reporters to give their opinions on the effects that her claims could have on Moore’s candidacy if she went public, the newspaper reported. The Post did not publish Phillips’ claims and confronted her with inconsistencies in her story. She told the Post she was not working with any organization that targets journalists.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/nov/27/washington-post-project-veritas-sting-report
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Guess what ? People are far more fascinated by outrageous lies than boring truth. Yah bears and woods stuff but reinforces the problem of our capacity to instantly spread and reinforce wildly ridiculous stories about individuals, groups or institutions.
Scientists prove that truth is no match for fiction on Twitter
Researchers find fake news reaches users up to 20 times faster than factual content – and real users are more likely to spread it than bots
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‘Falsehood diffused significantly farther, faster, deeper and more broadly than the truth in all categories of information’, say the scientists. Photograph: Kacper Pempel/Reuters
“Falsehood flies, and the truth comes limping after it,” wrote Jonathan Swift in 1710. Now a group of scientists say they have found evidence Swift was right – at least when it comes to Twitter.
In the paper, published in the journal Science, three MIT researchers describe an analysis of a vast amount of Twitter data: more than 125,000 stories, tweeted more than 4.5 million times in total, all categorised as being true or false by at least one of six independent fact-checking organisations.
The findings make for unhappy reading. “Falsehood diffused significantly farther, faster, deeper and more broadly than the truth in all categories of information,” they write, “and the effects were more pronounced for false political news than for false news about terrorism, natural disasters, science, urban legends or financial information.”
How much further? “Whereas the truth rarely diffused to more than 1,000 people, the top 1% of false-news cascades routinely diffused to between 1,000 and 100,000 people,” they write. In other words, true facts don’t get retweeted, while too-good-to-be-true claims are viral gold.
How much faster? “It took the truth about six times as long as falsehood to reach 1,500 people, and 20 times as long as falsehood to reach a cascade depth of 10” – meaning that it was retweeted 10 times sequentially (so, for example, B reads A’s feed and retweets a tweet, and C then reads B’s feed and retweets the same tweet, all the way to J).
The researchers speculate that falsehoods spread so fast because they fulfil our desire for novelty. True news, hamstrung by the requirement that it has to have actually happened, is generally much alike, but fake stories can surprise and entertain with no limit. The scientists posit that “when information is novel, it is not only surprising, but also more valuable, both from an information theoretic perspective [in that it provides the greatest aid to decision-making] and from a social perspective [in that it conveys social status on one who is ‘in the know’ or has access to unique ‘inside’ information].”
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/mar/08/scientists-truth-fiction-twitter-bots
Scientists prove that truth is no match for fiction on Twitter
Researchers find fake news reaches users up to 20 times faster than factual content – and real users are more likely to spread it than bots
Alex Hern
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‘Falsehood diffused significantly farther, faster, deeper and more broadly than the truth in all categories of information’, say the scientists. Photograph: Kacper Pempel/Reuters
“Falsehood flies, and the truth comes limping after it,” wrote Jonathan Swift in 1710. Now a group of scientists say they have found evidence Swift was right – at least when it comes to Twitter.
In the paper, published in the journal Science, three MIT researchers describe an analysis of a vast amount of Twitter data: more than 125,000 stories, tweeted more than 4.5 million times in total, all categorised as being true or false by at least one of six independent fact-checking organisations.
The findings make for unhappy reading. “Falsehood diffused significantly farther, faster, deeper and more broadly than the truth in all categories of information,” they write, “and the effects were more pronounced for false political news than for false news about terrorism, natural disasters, science, urban legends or financial information.”
How much further? “Whereas the truth rarely diffused to more than 1,000 people, the top 1% of false-news cascades routinely diffused to between 1,000 and 100,000 people,” they write. In other words, true facts don’t get retweeted, while too-good-to-be-true claims are viral gold.
How much faster? “It took the truth about six times as long as falsehood to reach 1,500 people, and 20 times as long as falsehood to reach a cascade depth of 10” – meaning that it was retweeted 10 times sequentially (so, for example, B reads A’s feed and retweets a tweet, and C then reads B’s feed and retweets the same tweet, all the way to J).
The researchers speculate that falsehoods spread so fast because they fulfil our desire for novelty. True news, hamstrung by the requirement that it has to have actually happened, is generally much alike, but fake stories can surprise and entertain with no limit. The scientists posit that “when information is novel, it is not only surprising, but also more valuable, both from an information theoretic perspective [in that it provides the greatest aid to decision-making] and from a social perspective [in that it conveys social status on one who is ‘in the know’ or has access to unique ‘inside’ information].”
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/mar/08/scientists-truth-fiction-twitter-bots
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Is that any surprise ?
The media will fall over themselves stirring up a leadership spill, but when it comes to policy they are too bleeding lazy to do their jobs.
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We see it here. I post facts and the usual suspects post contrary opinions with made up yarns, just so they can avoid the godaweful truth and, of course, to be bl00dy minded and contrary. It's a burden, but one I can easily shoulder.
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