Facebook - The beginning of the end...

[bellenuit]

Maybe there is a business opportunity to create a "safe" Facebook that doesn't sell your data to outsiders.

Facebook may become a “safe” Facebook if proper regulations are put in place by government and FB user controls are strengthened and made more transparent. This could happen whether FB likes it or not.

 

[SirRumpole]

Facebook may become a “safe” Facebook if proper regulations are put in place by government and FB user controls are strengthened and made more transparent. This could happen whether FB likes it or not.

Yes indeed. Zucker's refusal to show up for questioning in the UK shows contempt for due process and will only increase the likliehood of stricter rules globally.

 

[noirua]

Huxley and Orwell were just guessing. Fun to read or watch the film an age back as they were good writers. However, all a load of rubbish in reality.

 

[Wysiwyg]

Huxley and Orwell were just guessing. Fun to read or watch the film an age back as they were good writers. However, all a load of rubbish in reality.

Yes we must have faith the majority can make decisions for themselves rather than be manipulated. For sure there are people who are easily directed. Not everyone has strength of mind, perception and awareness (of self too).

 

[wayneL]

Yes we must have faith the majority can make decisions for themselves rather than be manipulated. For sure there are people who are easily directed. Not everyone has strength of mind, perception and awareness (of self too).

Ask anyone and they all believe that they are individual, critical thinkers. Almost nobody understands that they are manipulated if not intentionally, at least by groupthink. I'm only need look at the evolution of common vernacular to understand that.

In reality the number of people with strength of mine awareness and perception is very small.

 

[Tisme]

Ask anyone and they all believe that they are individual, critical thinkers. Almost nobody understands that they are manipulated if not intentionally, at least by groupthink. I'm only need look at the evolution of common vernacular to understand that.

In reality the number of people with strength of mine awareness and perception is very small.

I think the best test of narcissism is how much of it you are willing to sacrifice in complementing people who deserve it, irregardless of how stupid they are by holding different opinions to your own.

 

[moXJO]

FB has enough controls that you can make it work for you without being subject to the downsides you listed.

It has an anti-vanity w@nker button?

Facebook and Twitter have legitimate uses. From auctions, information and local clubs, business listings and reviews. It truly is both the best and worst of the net.

 

[Smurf1976]

Almost nobody understands that they are manipulated if not intentionally, at least by groupthink.

Very true.

Try excluding group think from an actual group though and see how you go. Actually, don't try it if you want to remain on speaking terms with the rest of the group.

It's one of those things were most don't see and don't want to be shown. Been there, tried that.

 

[Gringotts Bank]

No offense Tisme, but wiki says:

The origin of irregardless is not known for certain, but the speculation among references is that it may be a blend, or portmanteau word, of the standard English words irrespective and regardless. The blend creates a word with a meaning not predictable from the meanings of its constituent morphemes.

Most dictionaries list it as nonstandard or incorrect usage, and recommend that "regardless" be used instead.[2][3][4]

 

[SirRumpole]

Elon Musk and Steve Wozniak have cancelled their Facebook accounts.

Maybe if more celebrities do the same the message will get through.

 

[DB008]

Facebook boss Mark Zuckerberg apologises again as he faces Congress over Cambridge Analytica scandal
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Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg has begun a two-day congressional inquisition with a public apology for a privacy scandal that has roiled the social media giant he founded more than a decade ago.

Mr Zuckerberg opened his remarks before the US Senate Commerce and Judiciary committees by taking responsibility for failing to prevent Cambridge Analytica, a data-mining firm affiliated with Donald Trump's presidential campaign, from gathering personal information from 87 million users to try to influence elections.

Mr Zuckerberg had apologised many times already, to users and the public, but this was the first time in his career that he had gone before Congress.

"It was my mistake, and I'm sorry. I started Facebook, I run it, and I'm responsible for what happens here."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-04-...kerberg-fronts-united-states-congress/9639764​

Cambridge Analytica may have had access to private Facebook Messenger messages
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Facebook has started to help users figure out whether or not they’ve been affected by the Cambridge Analytica scandal, and detailed in the company’s notification is the fact that Facebook users may have also had their private messages leaked to Cambridge Analytica.

As pointed out by researcher Jonathan Albright, the vulnerability dates back to the first version of Facebook’s Graph API, which allowed apps to request massive amounts of users’ friends info with a single prompt. Once permission was granted, apps — like Cambridge Analytica — could continue to pull data for years until either the app was deleted or when Facebook finally killed the 1.0 version of the Graph API for a more limited 2.0 version in 2015.

Included in the data that those early Graph API apps could pull was the ability to read users’ private Facebook messages through a “read_mailbox” API request.

Facebook confirmed to Wired that a relatively small number of Facebook users gave access to Messenger — only 1,500 people gave the “This Is Your Digital Life” app permission to access the data, but anyone who messaged or received messages from those 1,500 people could also potentially be impacted.

https://www.theverge.com/2018/4/10/17219606/cambridge-analytica-private-facebook-messenger-messages​

 

[DB008]

 

[DB008]

Steve Wozniak drops Facebook: “The profits are all based on the user’s info”

Apple cofounder: "Apple makes its money off of good products,
not off of you."
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Steve Wozniak, the cofounder of Apple, has formally deactivated his Facebook account.

Wozniak, who has not been involved with day-to-day operations at Apple in decades, nonetheless has a legendary status in Silicon Valley. He is an active user of social media: his Twitter accountregularly sends out automated messages of where he is traveling and what he is eating.

In an email interview with USA Today, Wozniak wrote that he was no longer satisfied with Facebook, knowing that it makes money off of user data.

"The profits are all based on the user’s info, but the users get none of the profits back," he wrote. "Apple makes its money off of good products, not off of you. As they say, with Facebook, you are the product."

His Sunday announcement to his Facebook followers came just ahead of Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg’s scheduled testimony before Congress on Tuesday. The CEO is also reportedly set to meet with members of Congress privately on Monday.

Wozniak wrote that Facebook had "brought me more negatives than positives."

Facebook is still under notable public pressure in the wake of the scandal involving Cambridge Analytica, the British data analytics firm that worked with the Donald Trump presidential campaign. The company is said to have retained private data from 87 million Facebook users despite having assured Facebook that the data was deleted. Cambridge Analytica and its affiliated companies maintain that they did nothing wrong.

In the wake of the March 2018 revelations, there have been increasing calls for users to #DeleteFacebook, however only relatively few appear to have actually done so. In a call with reporters last week, Zuckerberg said that the number of people who have undertaken such efforts remained small.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy...-the-profits-are-all-based-on-the-users-info/​

 

[WarrMunger]

I've created a tool that lets you evaluate the value of Facebook and therefore what you think it should be priced at.

http://34.253.103.63/companies/fb

Give it a jam! I would be interested to see what valuations you guys arrive at. I think Facebook is still overpriced.

Feedback on the tool is also very much welcomed. This is our first prototype, we are aiming to make stock valuation a lot easier and faster for ourselves and everyone. Let us know if we are wasting our time or if this might be something you would use if you could look up and value any stock.

 

[Tisme]

No offense Tisme, but wiki says:

The origin of irregardless is not known for certain, but the speculation among references is that it may be a blend, or portmanteau word, of the standard English words irrespective and regardless. The blend creates a word with a meaning not predictable from the meanings of its constituent morphemes.

Most dictionaries list it as nonstandard or incorrect usage, and recommend that "regardless" be used instead.[2][3][4]

Fair comment. I haven't looked up that word, but I do claim bah lees because I was brought up in a household of generational educators, so it's their fault for the word; the one they used to negate my excuses for acting up as kids are want to do.

With my binary maths hat on and in my defence, no one bails up people who use the term "proactive" like verbal confetti. If that can get away with a facile clunky double addends, I reckon "irregardless" should too coz it's a finessed bookend use of subtrahends.... poetry in motion.

 

[greggles]

Now Facebook is planning on getting into the online dating game: https://www.sbs.com.au/news/zuckerberg-unveils-facebook-dating-service

I used to think that Facebook was just a cool way to stay connected with people who I didn't need to contact all the time. Now I think that Facebook is trying to become the absolute centre of our online existence to the exclusion of everything else.

I'm starting to feel like I'm being stalked by Mark Zuckerberg and my anxiety levels are rising.

 

[Gringotts Bank]

Now I think that Facebook is trying to become the absolute centre of our online existence to the exclusion of everything else.

I doubt they'd be any more advanced than Google or a multitude of other big corporations. They're all after your data so they can manipulate your decisions. Their excuse is that they collect data in order to create a better customer experience. Big business has always been corrupt - you just have to be a bit more mindful of how they want to use you.

The other day I was at a department store buying a clothing item. The first thing the sales assistant did at the checkout was ask for my phone number and post code. "No".

Yahoo Mail reserve the right to read all your emails if they want. Many email services do the same.

 

[HelloU]

...............I gave my phone number to the sales person.............and ended up married to them.........it is all about the angles peeps.

 

[Gringotts Bank]

I'd like to see the number of bots querying FB for data every second, from around the globe. FB won't be the only ones analyzing that data, though they have obvious advantages. 'Connectors' (~Gladwell) would be analyzed to the nth degree.

edit - connectors

 

[Tisme]

I'd like to see the number of bots querying FB for data every second, from around the globe. FB won't be the only ones analyzing that data, though they have obvious advantages. 'Connectors' (~Gladwell) would be analyzed to the nth degree.

edit - connectors

I run FB Purity to screen and monitor