Sean K
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You're only as good as the cattle you've got grazing around in your field. You can prod them and poke them to encourage them to eat and sleep more, but they're still just the cattle you've been handed. Let's hope the chemist wasn't sprinkling the grass with banned hormones.He's a bright guy and seems honest, but so far, not a great coach.
Oh boy! Just watching the Dank interview now. He has some massive tells. I'd like to play him at poker.
He's a goner. How will the AFL handle this?
"They said they didn't think I had done anything wrong."
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/essend...ements-dank-20130211-2e8yp.html#ixzz2Ka52gyqP
There's a lot of money in sport and sport is in the DNA of our culture so I understand why money is spent on keeping it clean. However, I agree, what if the money spent on this little escapade was spent on analysing the effort of really harmful substances like alcohol and tobacco and controlling that a little better? They are the real killers of our society, not some drug that makes you recover quicker from exercise!It's a joke using the Australian Crime Commission to investigate whether some players may or may not be using performance enhancing drugs. They have highly coercive powers and were set up to investigate organised crime etc. Bet you they will be highlighting this investigation when they ask for more money for their budget.
There's a lot of money in sport and sport is in the DNA of our culture so I understand why money is spent on keeping it clean. However, I agree, what if the money spent on this little escapade was spent on analysing the effort of really harmful substances like alcohol and tobacco and controlling that a little better? They are the real killers of our society, not some drug that makes you recover quicker from exercise!
Come on nomores. Have you been reading the latest developments? This has gone way past being a problem just for the Essendon Football Club.
I fully agree with Kennas. People have gone way over the top considering much of the "evidence" is just rumour. Even the "waiver" that keeps getting mentioned could be nothing more than a "consent" form.
Essendon possibly were naive in not fully understanding the power they had entrusted in their fitness department BUT, the developments of the last couple of days suggest the same naivety exists over the much of the Australian sporting landscape. The EFC were only following on from a methodology that Geelong used for success.
The new AFL rules and regulations surrounding "sports science" hasn't been introduced for the EFC - it has been coming for a long time. Patrick Smith mentioned in his article a few day ago that the trend of having the best "sports science" department started 10 years ago with Leigh Matthews and the Lions. He made a famous comment, "if it makes us .01% better, we will do it". Remember when the Lions chartered planes to fly at low altitudes back to Brisbane. Remember Brisbane was the first club to instal a hyperoxic chamber in the club house. And remember when the Lions ran out on the field with bandages on their arms covering the plastic stints in their arms. That was so they could get saline drips put in at half time. This was all happening more than 10 years ago.
Thankfully the era of the wild west in sports science looks like coming to an end, and while I will not be unhappy to see "the weapon" and " the pharmacist" leave Essendon, I feel that the Bombers are the team paying the price for what the majority of teams are doing.
Duckman
AND, I am absolutely disgusted by Wilsons and Robinsons reporting of this. New lows in objective journalism.
They have both gone to the bottom of the pile in terms of quality AFL commentators.
Both are extremely annoying and over rated as it is, but this takes the cake.
They will cop it from the 'real' AFL fraternity once this gets resolved. Why would anyone speak to them after this?
I'm looking forward to an unreserved apology once James in absolved of responsibility, and completely exonerated of any wrong doing.
Was Dustin Fletcher's mum and dad there?
The Herald Sun is not suggesting Bombers players did use performance-enhancing drugs
I'm getting sick of these sorts of cop-outs.
After laying out a whole bunch of speculation, innuendo and no evidence, OBVIOUSLY suggesting the players and officials had done the wrong thing they use this as a means of protecting themselves legally.
It's a disgrace!!
And, guess who?
Angry Mark Robinson, trying to make a story.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/mor...-anzac-day-clash/story-e6frf9jf-1226576536478
And a matter which has been under consideration, apparently, for about a year, and suddenly brought to the attention of the public via a news conference urgently called by two government ministers.Yes and Patrick Smith is acting like a lover scorned. If I have to read one more time how Essendon mismanaged the Sheedy/knights handover I'll scream!
This whole thing is starting to look ridiculous. The "blackest day in sport" is starting to look more like a mild shade of beige.
Duckman
It was a 100% successful diversion from all the media attention on the multiple government stuff-ups. Up until then, the ICAC enquiry was lead item in news and considerable focus directed to Conroy and Burke having accepted accommodation at the Obeid ski resort, thus extending the malodorous affair to Canberra rather than confining it to NSW. Then the MRRT clearly being another abject failure. Etc etc.Not one police investigation.
Not ONE!
And yet, the government ministers call a press conference to say it's diabolical. Just what are these two ministers trying to do? What are their motives?
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