Essendon - Supporter Support

[Sean K]

I need some support from Essendon supporters for the ASF Supercoach League. Looks dim. Get on it!

 

[Knobby22]

Natalie Wood to be coach of new AFLW team. Name sounds familiar

'Extremely proud': Bombers hire Natalie Wood as head coach for inaugural AFLW team

Essendon hires Natalie Wood as their inaugural AFLW coach, joining Bec Goddard at Hawthorn as the only female head coaches in next year's expanded competition.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Sean K]

Seems I'm the only Bomber left here at the moment. Hopefully a few more join the conversation as we eventually come out of this long term depression.

I'm feeling for Truck at the moment. Don't know exactly what's going on internally, but the group have underperformed. Maybe it's the coaches responsibility to some extent, but the players are supposed to be professionals too. I can't imagine many incentive payments being paid out this year. Ultimately, it's the board of directors and management team who are supposed to be 'responsible'. Heads must go.

Having said that, getting Clarkson would add a new dynamic. And, if he does a customary sweep he can clean away some of the chaff laying about in the footy department. Keep the 'essendon' people, and maybe add a couple more like Solomon and, dare I say it, Hird.

 

[Knobby22]

Brad Scott, looks like a premiership coach to me.

 

[Knobby22]

CEO resigns one day into job.
This thread is well named. Getting sick of it. Duckman has gone. I am the only one left.

 

[sptrawler]

CEO resigns one day into job.
This thread is well named. Getting sick of it. Duckman has gone. I am the only one left.

Yes I just read the article, the world is becoming a weird place, sounds like it is o.k to discriminate against a religious person.

New Essendon boss Andrew Thorburn quits one day after appointment

Essendon’s tumultuous off-season has continued, with new CEO Andrew Thorburn resigning only a day after his role was confirmed.

www.smh.com.au

From the article:
“As soon as the comments relating to a 2013 sermon from a pastor, at the City of the Hill church came to light this morning, we acted immediately to clarify the publicly espoused views on the organisation’s official website, which are in direct contradiction to our values as a club.
“Essendon is committed to providing an inclusive, diverse and a safe club, where everyone is welcome and respected.
“The board made clear that, despite these not being views that Andrew Thorburn has expressed personally and that were also made prior to him taking up his role as chairman, he couldn’t continue to serve in his dual roles at the Essendon Football Club and as chairman of City on the Hill.”

Thorburn released a statement which said he was being asked to compromise “beyond a level his conscience allowed”.
“Today it became clear to me that my personal Christian faith is not tolerated or permitted in the public square, at least by some and perhaps by many,” he said in the statement.
“People should be able to hold different views on complex personal and moral matters, and be able to live and work together, even with those differences, and always with respect.”
But the church’s stance on abortion and homosexuality was criticised by Victorian premier Daniel Andrews and the Bombers’ LGBTQI supporter group.

Andrews, a Bombers supporter, had a strong response when asked on Tuesday about the views expressed by Thorburn’s church, but acknowledged the CEO’s appointment was a matter for Essendon’s board.
“Those views are absolutely appalling. I don’t support those views; that kind of intolerance, that kind of hatred, bigotry is just wrong,” Andrews said.
Thorburn, who had been due to start his new role on November 1, insisted his record showed he was “inclusive and welcoming and caring and diverse”.

“Let me be clear - I love all people, and have always promoted and lived an inclusive, diverse, respectful and supportive workplace - where people are welcomed regardless of their culture, religious beliefs, and sexual orientation,” Thorburn said.

“I believe my record over a long period of time testifies to this. Despite my own leadership record, within hours of my appointment being announced, the media and leaders of our community had spoken. They made it clear that my Christian faith and my association with a church are unacceptable in our culture if you wish to hold a leadership position in society.”

 

[IFocus]

I was stunned when Thorburn was picked along with calls to bring back Hird.

 

[sptrawler]

I was stunned when Thorburn was picked along with calls to bring back Hird.

Why?

 

[Sean K]

Essendon are a basket case at the moment. Whoever did due diligence on the new CEO must have known he was a Christian and part of that church. If not, they should be sacked. If so, they summed it up and made a judgement that religion should be kept out of business appointments. But, not in sport apparently. I wouldn’t be surprised if a very loud minority group made waves which knocked him out. It’s a cluster anyway you look at it. Embarrassing.

 

[Sean K]

Why?

sp, focus was probably referring to his last gig as head of NAB. He was quite rightly spanked by the commission into banking misconduct. Essendon bragging that they had secured an ex-star ASX listed company CEO was a bit of a joke.

 

[sptrawler]

Essendon are a basket case at the moment. Whoever did due diligence on the new CEO must have known he was a Christian and part of that church. If not, they should be sacked. If so, they summed it up and made a judgement that religion should be kept out of business appointments. But, not in sport apparently. I wouldn’t be surprised if a very loud minority group made waves which knocked him out. It’s a cluster anyway you look at it. Embarrassing.

Yes it is obviously going to be difficult for a religious person, to be appointed to a sporting management position, imagine how hard it will be for someone with islamic beliefs they are very anti homosexuality.
The CEO will get his Israel Falou moment and a big payout, being penalised for what someone else said in 2013, doesn't sound very clever to me.
Another management cluster fluck in the name of inclusiveness, by forced exclusion, on vague religious grounds.

 

[sptrawler]

sp, focus was probably referring to his last gig as head of NAB. He was quite rightly spanked by the commission into banking misconduct. Essendon bragging that they had secured an ex-star ASX listed company CEO was a bit of a joke.

Or he was referring to the fact Thornburn is associated to the Church in question and Hird for his past misdemeanors?

This comment by a reader of the Age newspaper IMO nails it and shows how ridiculous it is getting, irony at its best. ?

A no-brainer or hypocritical? Readers react to Thorburn’s resignation

The Essendon Football Club is now embroiled in a public debate about freedom of speech and religion, and Age readers have some strong views about what has happened.

www.theage.com.au

Thorburn doesn’t go to a church, he has a significant role at that church. If people chose to participate in organisations that promote marginal and offensive positions they should expect in turn to be marginalised – Damian

 

[Knobby22]

Why?

Thorburn was leading the committee to appoint the new CEO and he picked himself! How did that happen?

The new Chairman is hopeless.
He brags about getting him and then sacks him next day!

What the Chairman did to the previous coach also! Worst handling in my memory.

 

[sptrawler]

Thorburn was leading the committee to appoint the new CEO and he picked himself! How did that happen?

The new Chairman is hopeless.
He brags about getting him and then sacks him next day!

What the Chairman did to the previous coach also! Worst handling in my memory.

That's fair comment and as you and Sean K say, Essendon appear to be in a mess.
What grates with me is the persecution at the moment of anything christian, not that I'm religious, but I think if a group of people are going to be judged it should be applied equally to all sectors who display the same perceived failing.
As Damian said in my post, if you are going to be involved in marginal and offensive behaviour, expect to be marginalised. So obviously it just depends who you are picking on, it is o.k to marginalise as long as you are on the right side.
A bit like it is o.k to bully and brow beat, as long as you have the backing of the media, anyone else does it and it is unacceptable.?
I guess it's my upbringing but I hate bullies and IMO there are way too many out there at the moment who are using the LGBTQIA platform as a stage for their own underlying nasty gratification.
It isn't helping the LGBTQIA cause at all IMO, it is only highlighting they can be as bigoted as any sector, which IMO isn't helpfull.
By the way why couldn't Hird be considered, hasn't he served his penance? He seemed to have a good footy brain, but poor judgement when it came to what was acceptable.
That shouldn't exclude him from ever working as a coach again, I wouldn't have thought, but I didn't follow it closely.

 

[IFocus]

sp, focus was probably referring to his last gig as head of NAB. He was quite rightly spanked by the commission into banking misconduct. Essendon bragging that they had secured an ex-star ASX listed company CEO was a bit of a joke.

SP what Sean said, didn't know about the church stuff but his denials concerning the church's behavior in this climate added to his down fall IMHO.

Clubs need successful cheerleaders for CEO's not lead weights note WCE and Freo's CEO's night and day difference.

Always had a soft spot for Essendon (never liked Hird that much no matter how good he was) hope they sort it all out.

 

[Knobby22]

SP what Sean said, didn't know about the church stuff but his denials concerning the church's behavior in this climate added to his down fall IMHO.

Clubs need successful cheerleaders for CEO's not lead weights note WCE and Freo's CEO's night and day difference.

Also he is the leader of the churches. It's not really about being Christian but about him also doing that job and being effectively their major person/voice. It really is untenable The whole thing is a dreadful mess.

 

[Sean K]

Just got home from the G. Changing my avatar for just few days until the adrenalin drops off.

 

[Sean K]

Anyone else going to switch to the Tassie Devils?

 

[Knobby22]

Talk about the wheels falling off.