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Duckman#72 said:
Big game for your blokes this week Nomores. They need to put the hand up. I need them to win to get the perfect round.
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We're a bunch of cats this year as well. I think we should win this week but I don't think we will make finals this year or if we do we will just scrap in.

Too many players are underdone after poor pre-seasons and injuries. The things that won us the flag last year have totally disappeared from our game, hard running, pressure through the midfield and quality ball into the forward line. Last year we were one of the fittest teams in the comp but this year we are probably the unfittest as shown by our poor second halves.

While dissapointed by our performance so far this year it must be remembered Hawthorn has an extremely young list still and some of the players just aren't up to the rigors of the intensity of AFL footy week in & week out yet.

On Neagle I'm still on the fence with him, needs to get alot fitter and work harder imo - look at all the top key forwards Riewoldt, Brown, Buddy and they all do a mountain of work, I'm yet to really see that in Neagle. Dropping him was a good thing imo as he currently doesn't deserve a spot in that team and he should have to earn it.
 
nomore4s said:
On Neagle I'm still on the fence with him, needs to get alot fitter and work harder imo - look at all the top key forwards Riewoldt, Brown, Buddy and they all do a mountain of work, I'm yet to really see that in Neagle. Dropping him was a good thing imo as he currently doesn't deserve a spot in that team and he should have to earn it.
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There is certainly not the intensity this year from your guys. Although funnily enough I have a huge wrap for Chance Bateman and his work ethic this year. Every game I've seen this year, he's been trying his guts out. Roughhead and Franklin look like they are just going through the motions. Maybe 2008 was the Hawthorn version of the Baby Bombers of 1993.

My views on this are already known but I entirely agree about Neagle. The difference between now and 2 months ago is that Scott Lucas, while not in stellar form is doing enough to warrant selection in the side. Neagle should be "learning his craft" through work experience in the AFL. Give him some games in the seconds.

Duckman
 
Duckman#72 said:
When you consider that last night Zaharakis, Houli, McPhee, McVeigh, Neagle and Slattery were watching on, it is pleasing. Also considering Hille, Gumbleton, Myers, Laycock and Bellchambers are long term injury listed it was
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Keep Laycock as far away from the Essendon team as possible. I would take Paul Salmon out of retirement before Laycock. The man losses Essendon match's.

I will say it again...the baby bombers are back
 
Whoohoo! :)

Good win away from home.

Pears looks like he could fill Fletcher's spot, or even hold down CHB. We haven't had one of those since Merrett!

Looks good for a September spot. Haven't been there for some time.

More importantly, this team is under development. Years ahead look promising if we can find fill ins for Lloyd, Lucus and Fletcher. Although, they might still have a couple of years left also.
 
kennas said:
Whoohoo! :)

Good win away from home.

Pears looks like he could fill Fletcher's spot, or even hold down CHB. We haven't had one of those since Merrett!

Looks good for a September spot. Haven't been there for some time.

More importantly, this team is under development. Years ahead look promising if we can find fill ins for Lloyd, Lucus and Fletcher. Although, they might still have a couple of years left also.
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That was a good win! I was thinking we would lose. At least I got my tip this week (I tips the Dons every week :p). We definitely need replacements for Lloyd and Fletcher. Although we have a good thing going at the moment. Everyone has the ability to play everywhere. We seem to be doing what St Kilda is doing, just not as well. St Kilda is Reminiscent of the Dutch soccer team with Total Football, and I think we are not too far behind. A year or two and we should get some consistency.
 
We already have our replacement for Fletcher. Pears and Hurley. FB and CHB for the next 10+ years.

Hooker will be back up if one of them is injured.

Lloyd and Lucas are the ones that we need to find replacements for but if Neagle and Gumbleton come on as expected we are set.

Still is also an option but is more of a long term player and was picked as one of the youngest players we have ever drafted but is quite talented.
 
Real1ty said:
Lloyd and Lucas are the ones that we need to find replacements for but if Neagle and Gumbleton come on as expected we are set.
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Grown a Wiewaldt, or buy one perhaps? Our salary cap can't be too demanding. The Old Three should take big cuts to ensure we go forward. The two L's should have taken them already really!!!!!
 
Looks like it was a pretty average game for us on paper. Who played forward to replace Lloyd? Although he's had a shocking year, he takes their best tall back so would have been a big loss.
 
kennas said:
Looks like it was a pretty average game for us on paper. Who played forward to replace Lloyd? Although he's had a shocking year, he takes their best tall back so would have been a big loss.
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Absolutely shocking.

We had some important outs yesterday, but I thought that our depth was better than that.

In hindsight, the speed of Houli and Jetta might have been a better option in Perth seeing Davey was out. Lovett-Murray was disappointing.

Staton is playing injured, Welsh had one of his worst games in a couple of seasons, Watson and Lovatt are carrying the midfield and Ryder is out on his feet. Pears and Hurley tried hard but looked like they had played about 25 games between them (which they have). But the pressure on the backline was to do with the poor defensive efforts of the midfield. There was very little pressure applied.

As for our forward structure, well..........., what can I say about our forward structure? Neagle had limited opportunities but at no stage looked dangerous. I really worry that this is "THE GUY" for our future plans.

Without sounding harsh - now that the season is all but gone, Lucas should retire with a send off game at the G next week, so that they can throw experience at a new player.

I can't understand the criticism of Fletcher. He would still be a walk up starter in most backlines in the League. He was again one of the few that tried hard yesterday. He was constantly having to mark up 2 opponents. I can't comprehend Patrick Smiths arguments that Essendon will never go forward under Knights with Fletcher in the side as the team is not playing like Knights wants (Lloyd and Lucas I can swallow but not Fletcher). He is one of the most flexible players going around. Plays talls, shorts, great at rebounding, and ultra reliable and consistent. It is too simplistic to say that he doesn't get the best forward, as he regularly plays the floating role where is assisting the whole backline. In effect he is helping mark the best forward and taking his own payer as well.

I heard James Hird say "On the Counch" a couple of weeks ago that Fletcher was THE BEST PLAYER he ever played with.

Duckman
 
One pill found in Lovett-Murrays house and he's on the front page for a drug charge, linked to a major syndicate doing all sorts of stuff. I suspect it was his, but his brother could have left it there by 'accident' I suppose.

Maybe he should have fessed up and he would have just got a slap on the wrist and it might have been one of his strikes the AFL hides under the table.

If he's totally innocent, the publicity is a bit untidy.

In two minds about how the media have presented this. When I saw the headline I thought he must have been caught with kilo of coke under his jumper. One ecstacy tablet? :confused:
 
Essendon

Have some good friends who are supporters incl. my Nan? :mad:

Not this year or the next!

Go the SAINTS!

Use to hold onto dad's leg within the animal cage down at Moorabin and this is OUR YEAR!!!!!!
 
Almost time for reflection on this year.......and if you only saw the highlights, it would suggest a successful season.

We beat arch rivals Carlton twice (once a thumping), we beat Collingwood in a thriller on Anzac Day, we beat reigning premiers Hawthorn halfway into the season and battled well against top of the table St Kilda.

However our lows have been very low. At the start of the season we lost a very winable game to North and in the last few weeks lost to Richmond and West Coast in spectacularly unimpressive fashion, and only managed a draw against Brisbane after being up 14 points with 4 minutes to go.

It has been very disappointing that our players have had so little fire in the belly when the finals are calling.

On a positive note - they do play the Saints well and are one of the teams that have traditionally been a hoodoo side. One big push this week and they might just get the season back on track. It would be a huge irony if they did win as the whole season has been littered with wins they shouldn't have had and losses that they shouldn't have had. Why not one more!!!

Changes for next year - trade/drop Hooker (has too much of the "Kepler Bradley" about him), Lucas gone(finished), Jetta trade if we can, Laycock trade if possible, McVeigh trade if possible.

Duckman
 
Duckman#72 said:
Changes for next year - trade/drop Hooker (has too much of the "Kepler Bradley" about him), Lucas gone(finished), Jetta trade if we can, Laycock trade if possible, McVeigh trade if possible.

Duckman
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Trade McVeigh? I thought he was considered Captain material?
 
Duckman#72 said:
Almost time for reflection on this year.......and if you only saw the highlights, it would suggest a successful season.

We beat arch rivals Carlton twice (once a thumping), we beat Collingwood in a thriller on Anzac Day, we beat reigning premiers Hawthorn halfway into the season and battled well against top of the table St Kilda.

However our lows have been very low. At the start of the season we lost a very winable game to North and in the last few weeks lost to Richmond and West Coast in spectacularly unimpressive fashion, and only managed a draw against Brisbane after being up 14 points with 4 minutes to go.

It has been very disappointing that our players have had so little fire in the belly when the finals are calling.

On a positive note - they do play the Saints well and are one of the teams that have traditionally been a hoodoo side. One big push this week and they might just get the season back on track. It would be a huge irony if they did win as the whole season has been littered with wins they shouldn't have had and losses that they shouldn't have had. Why not one more!!!

Changes for next year - trade/drop Hooker (has too much of the "Kepler Bradley" about him), Lucas gone(finished), Jetta trade if we can, Laycock trade if possible, McVeigh trade if possible.

Duckman
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for a trade how about u take back bradley and soloman no more bomber rejecys for freo thks
 
kennas said:
Trade McVeigh? I thought he was considered Captain material?
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Although he has been injured for large parts of this year - he has been "off the pace" in 2009. But it is more than his form, it has been the way he has carried himself on and off the field and at this stage he looks less like a leader than he did 12 months ago.

With blokes like Stanton, Watson and Prismall coming through with ability and leadership it might be an opportunity to get a decent return through a trade. I'd like to get a proven forward or adequate backup ruckman from somewhere. As far as Captain is concerned - we still have Hille to come back into the side.

Munga - imagine how good your forward line would look if you had Hooker and Bradley as the "tall timbers" and Solomon on a flank. ;) Add Houli in the midfield for speed and McVeigh for the in and unders. You guys would be flying!!! You wouldn't even miss Hill and Palmer who you traded to Essendon.

Duckman
 
Duckman#72 said:
We are not going to give Hooker away!!!! What about that other bloke you've got....what's his name? Buddy??:D
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No thanks. I paid up big for him this year in the Super Coach thingy and he let the team down big time.
 
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