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ENG - Engin Limited

Hold on boys


the speeding ticket



COMPARE 27th JUNE 2006 (ie price coming down) (OLD)
with 12th SEP 2006 (NEW)

1. Is the company aware of any information concerning it that has not been
announced which, if known, could be an explanation for recent trading in the
securities of the Company?

OLD ANSWER:
The company is not aware of any other information, which could be an
explanation for recent trading in the securities other than current market
conditions.

NEW ANSWEER:
The company has no direct knowledge of what factors may be influencing the recent movements in the trading price of shares in the Company. However, the company's directors wish to advise that the Company has been and is currently in discussions with a number of parties in relation to various transactions including possible capital raising opportunities with various investors, including institutional, strategic or sophisticated investors. The discussions are continuing and no agreement on any particular transaction has been reached. The Company is currently seeking advice on the possible options from its advisors. There is no certainty that any corporate activities will eventuate from these discussions.

2. If the answer is yes can an announcement be made immediately?
OLD ANSWER:
Not applicable.

NEW ANSWER:
At this stage, the Company is unable to make an announcement about any discussions it has engaged in, as outlined in paragraph 1, as they concern possible options that are confidential, incomplete and are insufficiently definite to warrant disclosure.

The Company will continue to keep the market informed in accordance with its continuous disclosure obligations.

3. Is there any reason to think that there may be a change in the operating result before abnormal items and income tax so that the figure for the financial year ended 30 June 2006 would vary from the previous financial year by more than 15%? If so, please provide the details as to the extent of the likely variation.

OLD ANSWER and NEW ANSWER: (exactly word for word)
The Company as at the end of June 2006 is substantially different to the
business accounted for in the financial year ended June 2005. In 2005, the
Company divested of its operating relationship and pending High Court legal
challenge against Vodafone, which resulted in a material settlement and
cessation of business with Vodafone in the financial year ended June 2005.
The half-year results before tax as at December 2005 are expected to reflect
the current operational results of the Company, for the half-year ended June
2006.

4. Is there any reason to think that the Company may record any material
abnormal or extraordinary result for the financial year ended 30 June 2006? If
so, please provide details.

OLD and NEW ANSWER
No

5. Is there any other explanation that the Company may have for the price change in the securities of the Company?

OLD and NEW ANSWER
No


6. Please confirm that The Company is in compliance with the listing rules and, in particular, listing rule 3.1.

OLD ANSWER AND NEW ANSWER: (essentially the same)
The company is in compliance with the listing rules and in particular, listing
rule 3.1.




so what has changed?????

Well the comment about the financial position of the company is the same
ie I would expect a loss of some $5m for the second half of 2005-6

What they are saying is that there are negotiations with potential investors of ENGIN, which we essentially already knew!

What I have noticed, is that the share price seems to be being pushed by a new buying influence that was not present some 1 - 2 weeks ago. I get the gut feeling that there is someone who is acquiring a fair number of this stock. I suspect there will be an annoucement of a new significant shareholder over the next week or two. The way the market is moving, I see that they are prepared to push the price upwards to attain shares rather than wait for supply of natural sellers to come onto the market. When the buyer stops pushing the share price, the market comes down. When they start pushing again off the price goes. This is evidenced by spikes of volume as the price rises and a decrease in price on only very small volume

i feel the stock is moving from weak hands to strong hands (as per Edwards and Mcgee). Today's action was a classic example of shaking out the sellers. Once they are shaken out we will go into free upward movement.


I think we know the financial situation of the company (just about to break even), when this is announced (breakeven) then it will be like petrol on a fire.



ij
 
Trading halt. Must be to announce capital raising. I wonder which direction it will take when it re-opens? :confused:
 
People


which direction will it head
i would expect upwards
this company does not seem to be able to contain good annoucements or indeed bad announcements, and the stock trades for the week or two prior to the annoucement in the direction that the announcement is favoured


i guess the only question is

"has the annoucement already been factored into the share price, or will there be further movement?"


tomorrow will tell... or perhaps friday morning


ij
 
I hope that isn't the significant announcement they referred to!!!!!
At first glance it doesn't look so good - what a week!!!
Surely you don;t have a trading halt at 4:15pm to announce at 8:30am???
 
Mumbank said:
Surely you don;t have a trading halt at 4:15pm to announce at 8:30am???

No there's more to come!

"The Company has been and is currently in discussions with third parties in relation to capital raising opportunities. As at the time of release of this document, the Company is unable to make an announcement about discussions it has engaged in, as they concern possible options that are confidential, incomplete and are insufficiently definite to warrant disclosure."
engin Limited

Possible takeover???
 
Mumbank said:
WOW that's a pretty impressive announcement. Seems like we aren't the only ones that believe in this company!!!

I like the concept of providing some of 7's content via VOIP.. that's a great idea :)
 
Mumbank said:
WOW that's a pretty impressive announcement. Seems like we aren't the only ones that believe in this company!!!

I'm impressed. Not only will it be promoted on 7, I even see mention of Yahoo 7, a 50/50% Joint Venture between the Seven Network and Yahoo. Yahoo 7 attracts 5.6million consumers every month to its Australian portal http://www.yahoo7.com

Those that have been following Reeltime Media (ASX:RMA) will know that there has been an alliance between the two parties to offer movie downloads from Yahoo 7. There has been talk about the alliance offering VoIP in the future and its believed the set top box (which connects to your broadband connection) has a inbuilt ATA (VoIP Analog Telephone Adaptor). Just maybe the provider of those services is becoming clearer.

For those not aware of Reeltime, they hope to start selling a set top box in retail stores / supermarkets in coming months.
 
wastedgnome,

I am the same as you I am happy I hold on to my shares I even topped up recently at 0.30. I believed from my experience in Europe that a company like ENG in Australia would ultimately go up in the mid to long term but this announcement is definetely the type of announcement you would expect will put a rocket underneath the share price. Hopefully I am correct. :)
 
crazyadventures said:
Just a gut feel, but I reckon it's positive news and annual results.

See last trading halt on 19/1 (http://www.asx.com.au/asxpdf/20060119/pdf/3v3kbphrq1b3y.pdf) followed by good results.

Request for halt is word for word.

Ahh....that warm fuzzy feeling you get when you hold onto something and have confidence that you've picked a winner.....now where do I get that feeling next?

Anyone want to predict where it will open when trading halt is lifted?

Anyone think we'll see exchange traded options introduced?
 
warm and fuzzy....I'm bursting!:jump:

I couldn't predict opening tomorrow...I think that it will be a bit up and down, but certainly there's going to be good times ahead. :1luvu:
 
so now that we've got the good news, how long are you guys planning on holding for? given the seven backing, it should give engin an even more solid footing - especially important for the day that telstra will take the plunge into the voip market. i'd assume there'll be a significant increase in advertising on channel 7 as well.

one concern for me is that they're changing the board around, with 3 directors from 7 coming in. i'm not much of a fan of changing a good thing, so hopefully these new guys know their stuff and can bring something to the table.
 
The additions to the board I believe are a good thing - there's some great experience coming to the table and remember, 7 have been through some tough times and are now nuding $10 a share.

I think engin has potential to be a $1 - $1.50 stock in future, but need to be reaching breakeven before they do this.

I'm predicting they'll open tomorrow at around 40c and give 48c a nudge again.
 
People


Just a thought to ponder

10,000,000 shares are issued today to the Seven Network at 27.5c (VWAP)

ok that is fine

but according to the wording the next 109m will be issued at 21.5c
this makes the average exactly 22c for the Seven shares

now there will be 109452662 + 239125104 total shares
ie 348 577 766 shares

given the last trade on ENG @30c for 229125104 shares
ie the value of the company before all this was $68.737531m

assuming that the value of the company is the same pre and post issueing of shares then the value is
$68.737531 + $26.279585m = $95.0171m for 348 577 766 shares
ie
27.25c / share for the new entity

or
ie $68.73751m + $2.75m = 29.89c per share prior to the further 109m shares

i think the placement will provide financial security for the company
which will bolster the share price

in any case
I think the price tomorrow will be 27c at a min
and perhaps a lot more



ij
 
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