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Electric cars?

Would you buy an electric car?

  • Already own one

    Votes: 10 5.1%

  • Yes - would definitely buy

    Votes: 43 21.9%

  • Yes - preferred over petrol car if price/power/convenience similar

    Votes: 78 39.8%

  • Maybe - preference for neither, only concerned with costs etc

    Votes: 37 18.9%

  • No - prefer petrol car even if electric car has same price, power and convenience

    Votes: 24 12.2%

  • No - would never buy one

    Votes: 14 7.1%
  • Total voters
    196
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basilio said:
Tesla will be holding a Battery Day sometime in June to announce the commercialization of a improvement in battery design and costs that will make electric cars cost competitive with IC vehicles AND give a1 Million mile range for the cars.

Worth checking out the background to the upcoming announcement. Also could partially explain recent sharp increases in TESLA SP.
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Battery Day: Why Tesla’s single crystal cathode is important
https://thedriven.io/2020/06/05/battery-day-why-teslas-single-crystal-cathode-is-important/
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If good for car, good for home system too
 
basilio said:
Further details on new cheaper batteries. In fact it seems to leap frog the upcoming announcement from Tesla

Researchers say ‘salty’ sodium battery as good as lithium-ion
https://thedriven.io/2020/06/03/researchers-say-salty-sodium-battery-as-good-as-lithium-ion/
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from the blurb: RenewEconomy and its sister sites One Step Off The Grid and The Driven will continue to publish throughout the Covid-19 crisis, posting good news about technology and project development, and holding government, regulators and business to account.

Isn't "sister sites" rather old-fashioned? Patronising? Unreconstructed? Patriarchal?
 
and by extension, white middle aged chauvinist male pig? or am I mistaking that thread for a black lives matter more than others?
do not stir the shxt here @Dona Ferentes , i know of at least one fish eating the bait hook and sink every time... ;-)
 
qldfrog said:
https://theconversation.com/amp/hyd...theyre-hampered-by-the-laws-of-science-139899
You all know by now my scepticism about H2, i believe the above article should settle this once for all.no investment or new technology can change basic physic.
So where to for H2?
Well i see a still undeveloped promising field on solar wind farms energy storage with h2 fuel cells acting as batteries and allowing base load from cheap green power, and h2 replacing our lpg train for exports to Asia.
Comments welcome but please read the article from the link
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We have been over this a few times, at this point in time hydrogen is the only sensible replacement for heavy vehicles and aircraft, batteries make the most sense for light application.
As technology improves, one would hope batteries improve and also the production of hydrogen.
My guess is, the next major step will be with solid state batteries.
 
moXJO said:
Lol
I guess staying at home is bad for car sales. I'm sure Elon was close to getting a performance bonus before the lockdown.
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Considering there is a waiting list for Tesla vehicles, it probably doesn't have much impact.

However, I must say being able to charge from home and avoid visiting fuel stations and handling bowser pumps is definitely a benefit of electric cars during a pandemic.

Not to mention a huge benefit from a lifestyle perspective the rest of the time, and knowing you wife is always going to be leaving home with a full battery and can charge when she gets home is nice rather than knowing she will have to stop a night some where to fuel up.
 
Nissan staying in the game.
https://www.drive.com.au/news/nissan-australia-wants-more-electric-cars-123774.html?trackLink=SMH2
From the article:
Nissan Australia is also lobbying to gather support from the public and the government sector to improve the accessibility of electric cars across the country.

“We’ve had workshops with Australia’s chief scientist talking about electrification, talking about the future and the road map for that and how we can be more prepared for the future,” said Mr Lester.

Nissan says some electric cars will eventually also be able to send power back to the grid, which can be helpful during electricity outages and natural disasters.

“Vehicle to grid will come online in Australia very shortly, that’s already production-ready, and that opens up the opportunity for us to talk to consumers about how they can use their vehicle differently, how that can benefit them,” said Mr Lester.
 
Tesla Battery Day has been postponed to September. The news was they were going to announce a Million Mile battery technology.
Suggestion is if they made that announcement before they actually produced the car and battery people would simply cancel their current car orders. After all why would you buy a clearly inferior product now if a far better one was imminent ?

Update: Tesla Battery Day now set for September, as Musk seeks live audience for million-mile revolution

...Although Tesla has just re-signed an agreement with battery partner Panasonic locking in prices for the next three years, Jack Rickard, an electric vehicle battery expert and producer of EVTV, believes Tesla is already readying its own battery assembly lines, possibly at Fremont or Nevada.

It’s not the Coronavirus pandemic, or other current social issues like the Black Lives Matter movement, that is delaying Battery Day, says Rickard.

Very simply, he says it is the Osborne effect – what happens when people start cancelling orders because they know there will be a better product available imminently.

“He actually needs to be manufacturing cars with the batteries before he tells you about it or you’ll all quit buying the cars until he can do it,” Rickard said on Saturday in a 40 minute video released on Youtube by Rickard.
“It’s the Osborne effect – he has to be ready to punch the button.”

https://thedriven.io/2020/06/22/tes...ks-live-audience-for-million-mile-revolution/

 
Chronos-Plutus said:
I don't even have a car. Public transport in Sydney is adequate and sufficient; however I am not married and/or have children, so don't really need a car.
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I think that is something that people really need to embrace, my generation grew up in an era when cars were an essential item, so adapting to the modern era could be quite difficult.
With the current generation of young adults, I think in capital cities a car is pointles, public transport, cycleways and ride share apps like uber make the owning of a car a waste of opportunity.
The cost of ownership could add considerably to their investment pool.
 
sptrawler said:
I think that is something that people really need to embrace, my generation grew up in an era when cars were an essential item, so adapting to the modern era could be quite difficult.
With the current generation of young adults, I think in capital cities a car is pointles, public transport, cycleways and ride share apps like uber make the owning of a car a waste of opportunity.
The cost of ownership could add considerably to their investment pool.
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It is certainly a capital intensive and depreciating asset.
 
Unless you're smart with your money and buy a classic (or future classic) car ;)

Or do you mean for actual transportation, not as a toy? Because you just buy an old but reliable shitebox for transportation, like an old corolla or something. As long as it's been maintained, you'll be fine.
 
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