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Electric cars?

Would you buy an electric car?

  • Already own one

    Votes: 10 5.1%
  • Yes - would definitely buy

    Votes: 43 21.7%
  • Yes - preferred over petrol car if price/power/convenience similar

    Votes: 78 39.4%
  • Maybe - preference for neither, only concerned with costs etc

    Votes: 38 19.2%
  • No - prefer petrol car even if electric car has same price, power and convenience

    Votes: 25 12.6%
  • No - would never buy one

    Votes: 14 7.1%

  • Total voters
    198
It seems some sections of the EV market are hitting headwinds in OZ.
From




Hardly surprising, but then the experts in Government said itwas all going to happen.
Mick
 
Ford have cancelled the production of an electric SUV .
For a myriad of claimed reasons, US buyers in particular have not embraced the EV concept as much as many expected.
Time will tell whether its a slowing of the takeup, or a shrinking.
From Car and Driver

 
Mr Black said Ausgrid had the capacity on its network and was “ready to meet today’s demand while we evolve for the future”.
One of the country’s biggest investors in EV chargers says big oil companies will struggle to roll out their own networks at suburban service stations, but convenience rather than grid constraints were the likely reason.

 
For finance guy , Roger Montgomery's different take on the future of E.V's , tune in to ABC Radio 's " Nightlife " podcast from yesterday , 27 th August .( Begins 28 minutes in ) . 4 WD accessories manufacturer ARB and Guzman y Gomez get a mention , too . Breville , as well . Quite a good show , this week .
 
While having breakfast in my gym's cafe, I came across an article in the AFR that pretty much tells the story about our current world - "lazy".

The mining billionaire laid partial blame at the feet of “lazy, first world” car makers in Europe and the US, content to profit from producing internal combustion models instead of trying to compete with rivals in China churning out electric vehicles.



 
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You could replace the words "car makers" with just about anything manufactured.
China produces stuff much cheaper than anyone else.
It helps if the government controls everything from cost of labour to licenses to build, tariffs etc.
My own experience is the quality of the Chinese stuff is quite variable.
As for Ellison, yea, nah.
Mick
 
Not an electric car but an electric ship.

To be built in Australia too.
seems to be going great guns

There’s at least 1,000 medium-sized ships needed. There’s another 1,000 Sydney Harbour-sized ships needed, etc. So the market is unbelievably large.”
- Bob Clifford INCAT

 
Volkswagen are feeling the pain of not having a competitive EV to sell at a profitable price in China, the EV capital of the world.

Volkswagen, which embarked on a €10 billion ($11.1 billion) cost-cutting effort late last year, is losing market share in China, its single biggest market.
The lackluster performance in China comes as the company loses out to local EV brands, notably BYD, which also pose an increasing threat to its business in Europe.

 
Pretty hard to compete with producers who can actually run at a loss, if required.
The writing is on the wall for a lot of Western manufacturers.
 
Pretty hard to compete with producers who can actually run at a loss, if required.
The writing is on the wall for a lot of Western manufacturers.

BYD are one of the few Chineses manufacturers making a profit

Why BYD's EV exports sell for twice the China price
U.S. and European politicians have raised alarms that their domestic auto industries could be destroyed by a wave of cheap Chinese electric vehicles. But so far, China's top EV maker, BYD, has dramatically hiked export prices compared to what it charges at home rather than undercut foreign rivals.
The goal: to rake in hefty profit margins the automaker can’t get in China amid fierce competition.

Nothing new here, the English car industry went through the same thing in the 50's & 60's with Japan. Set up factories, shared the technology but forgot to stay ahead.
 
the Australian car-maker industry did it also , ( when me had a car manufacturing industry )

but maybe the back-breaking straw was the idea of more manufacturers was better , too many brands , too many models , and we proved to be too expensive to export many vehicles ( to give the industry scale )
 
Plus all the profits went to the U.S and the taxpayer was giving them a buge subsidy, which then became that profit.
 
Maybe looking at own navel?
 
Plus all the profits went to the U.S and the taxpayer was giving them a buge subsidy, which then became that profit.
yep

we could be smashing out something like an electric Mini Minor , and sell enough to local government and city bound pensioners to at least trim the imports down a little , heck it might even make a profit ( because Government might reduce green/red tape to purchase the vehicles cheaper )

say two models a sedan and a panel van , 300 km range , surely we could do that at a profit ( maybe even sell a few to NZ )
 
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