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Electric cars?

Would you buy an electric car?

  • Already own one

    Votes: 10 5.1%
  • Yes - would definitely buy

    Votes: 43 21.7%
  • Yes - preferred over petrol car if price/power/convenience similar

    Votes: 78 39.4%
  • Maybe - preference for neither, only concerned with costs etc

    Votes: 38 19.2%
  • No - prefer petrol car even if electric car has same price, power and convenience

    Votes: 25 12.6%
  • No - would never buy one

    Votes: 14 7.1%

  • Total voters
    198
Yes I think a dual cab ev with a range extender would be a hit here. We like the EV, but would like the flexibility of a range extended.
They are just starting to come out, but I think in a few years time, things will be completely different IMO
 
Another nail in the coffin for hydrogen power vehicles, another reason EVs are here to stay -

Global energy companies are rethinking the wisdom of pumping billions of dollars of capital into an unproven technology with uncertain timing and no guaranteed rate of return. Statkraft, the Norwegian hydro-electricity giant, rolled back its plans last month. “We have definitely underestimated the challenges,” a company spokesman said. “Developing green hydrogen has become much more expensive than we expected.”
824 green hydrogen projects with a theoretical capacity of 21 million tonnes a year were in the pipeline in North America and Europe. But only 2 per cent of the announced capacity reached the planning stage, and just 0.2 per cent were completed.

This is what happens when accountability is nonexistent in a modern society. Experts that are paid extremely well tell us that all the planets are aligned, and governments commit tax dollars to new schemes, only to find that the everyone is looking at another galaxy. Does anyone get reprimanded?

Politicians and entrepreneurs may be equally prone to the cognitive biases that allow bad ideas to hang around long after they should’ve been dismissed. The redeeming grace of entrepreneurs is the profit motive, which tells them when to stop throwing good money after bad.

 

Yes, the highway speeds don't give any chance for regenerative braking to top up the battery. We travel quite a bit on country roads, a few tricks that may help increase your range.

Heat or cool the interior before you leave home, while the power supply is plugged in.

Keep tyre pressure on the highest recommended. Tesla recommend 42psi.

Use cruise control.

Carry the essentials only, no need for the toolbox

Pre-condition the cabin before you leave
Many EVs offer the option to pre-condition the cabin before your departure. Do this. Pre-conditioning the cabin while on the charger puts the initial, energy-intensive part of the air conditioning process on the grid power rather than the battery, so it doesn’t affect your range. It takes comparatively little energy to keep the cabin cooled once you depart. Pre-conditioning is extra important for EV owners in winter, as heating the cabin typically requires more energy than cooling it.
 
famous last words

maybe not the 300 kilo professional mechanics tool kit , but even bicycles need tools sometimes

It all depends on the car and whether the maintenance carried out on a regular basis.

I have driven across the country for over 35 years and have carried a toolbox in most of my cars but never used a single tool on my own car. I have only used my tools to help someone else out.

To this day, I carry multiple tools in my Holden VF SS-V ute. But in my wife's Tesla the only tool we have is a torch and one of those multi-purpose plyers. After 52,000km including country roads and interstate trips we have never had a need to use a tool.

My handiest tool when traveling is a mobile phone, roadside assist, water, preparation, regular maintenance.

Modern cars are very reliable.
 
Yes I think a dual cab ev with a range extender would be a hit here. We like the EV, but would like the flexibility of a range extended.
They are just starting to come out, but I think in a few years time, things will be completely different IMO
I put a long range tank in the ranger. At gives me 140 litres , can safely get 1200 km out of a tank.
Its more for towing the van, where it brings the range up to about the same range when no van but with the original tank.
Pretty easy install, took me about half a day.
Mick
 
Yes I did the same back in 1994 with a Landrover Discovery 300tdi, it had a 90 litre tank and put in two 50 litre aux tanks, but I was doing a lot of desert trips back then.
I just think having a range extender will suit a lot of people.
It will be an interesting topic, if we want to explore it IMO.
 
You can still do it now for an ev :
a little generator and 100l diesel tank before long trip, and you then can reload every night at the camp site.
Less money than buying the equivalent range battery, moreover with a heavy extra battery you would have to recharge and carry it every day even to go to buy bread next door ,?
Take a step back, is there any economical, technical issue above.. but for the political ideological side of the argument.
 
EVs are changing the vehicle world. New materials, manufacturing process and design ideas are showing us that EVs are more technologically advanced than their ICEV cousin.

EVs are changing the whole car industry.

Gigacasting is the future, started by Tesla, and now it is catching on with other automotive manufacturers buying the tools to incorporate it in their new models.

Automakers are rushing to produce cheaper EVs and profitably. While the costs and challenges of improving batteries often hog the spotlight, automakers are also investing billions into new manufacturing methods that can change the way cars are made. One such method is gigacasting or megacasting - using high pressure molds to form molten aluminum into large parts. Electric car maker Tesla is credited with pioneering the method, but several rivals are making investments. CNBC spoke with experts including Volvo Cars' Chief Product and Strategy Officer, Erik Severinson, about the Swedish car maker’s plans in this area.

 
Interesting.
CAD helps with casting but large casts are still difficult to produce and relatively expensive with a high failure rate.
I note that Tesla appears to be going away from this for there future cheap Tesla.
I reckon it would make sense to reduce the casting component for certain panels if it gets the cost down though I know myself that nothing beats the quality of a cast part.

Volvo owned by the Chinese Geely group is really setting itself up to be a big competitor to Tesla, along with BYD, and possibly Hyundai and Toyota. These to me look like the car firms of the future, at least for the Australian market.

Ford, Toyota, Hyundai and Honda have been working away at hydrogen for a while so they could come through with a competitive product but I feel battery technology will also keep improving. It's just an infrastructure problem. I have a feeling it will only be used for niche applications.

Exciting times.
 
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Germany has shown how important subsidies are the sales of EV's.
From The Driven
For the rest of the EU, which still have subsides for EV buyers, sales were up 9%.
Take away those subsidies, and it all drops away.
Mick
 
Germany is getting itself in more $hit than Ned Kelly IMO.
Closing all their nuclear plants, with no subsitute power source, isn't the smartest move when you are a highly industrialised country IMO.
And with winter around the corner, could be an interesting time, unless of course the whole populace goes on winter leave to the sunny climes of the Mediterranean
 
Germany is getting itself in more $hit than Ned Kelly IMO.
Closing all their nuclear plants, with no subsitute power source, isn't the smartest move when you are a highly industrialised country IMO.
And do not forget getting their cheap russian gas blown up and replacing it with expensive US lpg boats
 
And with winter around the corner, could be an interesting time, unless of course the whole populace goes on winter leave to the sunny climes of the Mediterranean
Old school
I think you have the flow direction wrong, it is mostly populace from sunnier Mediterranean clime moving North
 
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