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Electric cars?

Would you buy an electric car?

  • Already own one

    Votes: 10 5.1%
  • Yes - would definitely buy

    Votes: 43 21.7%
  • Yes - preferred over petrol car if price/power/convenience similar

    Votes: 78 39.4%
  • Maybe - preference for neither, only concerned with costs etc

    Votes: 38 19.2%
  • No - prefer petrol car even if electric car has same price, power and convenience

    Votes: 25 12.6%
  • No - would never buy one

    Votes: 14 7.1%

  • Total voters
    198
Governments of any persuassion have a lot to answer to over the years. Someone with a mental deficiency must have dreamt that one up.
 
Governments of any persuassion have a lot to answer to over the years. Someone with a mental deficiency must have dreamt that one up.
The idea was that the richer you were, the bigger your house and the more windows you have, it was meant to be a way of taxing the rich.

The tax was in place for over 150 Years in Britain.
 
The idea was that the richer you were, the bigger your house and the more windows you have, it was meant to be a way of taxing the rich.

The tax was in place for over 150 Years in Britain.
I wonder how the Stately homes, mansions and castles got around that one. Friends in high places, perhaps. or were they exempt because of the class system
 
Either way, whether it’s taxing tyres or fuel the end result could be the same.
The problem with taxing tyres is it'll lead to a lot more unsafe vehicles on the road.

If we're going to tax then tax based on distance not maintenance. Presumably with modern technology it ought be possible to make odometers fairly tamper proof so just use that and implement some system that requires proof at time of vehicle disposal (in case someone's been understating distance etc).

I do agree that fuel tax needs to be replaced though. If retained then it ends up as a tax on the poor (old cars) and a tax on things like lawnmowers and off road dirt bikes. All gets a bit silly.
 
"Now is also the time to snap up as many McLarens as you can while they are still making glorious, shouty noises, Grose advised, because the age of silent-running, all-electric super cars is fast approaching."

 
I wonder how the Stately homes, mansions and castles got around that one. Friends in high places, perhaps. or were they exempt because of the class system
When I was in the Uk, I visited a castle who's owners after something like 800 years went bankrupt in the 1930's and couldn't pay their taxes. The government confiscated all the contents of the castle but the castle couldn't be sold the family even tried to give it away but no one wanted it so the government forced them to remove the roof of the castle so that they could no longer inhabit it.

The family still owns it today, its a ruin that you can visit for a $20 entry fee.

 
Now that was forward thinking. Turn something that was habitable into a wreck.
 
typo error should have said if on solar
It will be interesting on the East Coast, when the energy crisis really hits in about 3 years, it will make people's decision whether to buy an E.V even more difficult.
There is a massive conversion of storm clouds, gathering over the Eastern States electricity grid, IMO it isn't going to be pretty. ?
 
I don't know, over here they keep lowering our solar feed in tariff, mine is now 10cents for the first 14kwh and only 5cents after that. It almost makes it necessary to have an EV to plug in just to get good value for the solar I produce.

it's also making a Home battery even more valuable.

EV's could actually be the saving grave for the electricity retailers, allowing them to sell electricity profitably over night and during the day after they have sold it at a loss during the extreme peak.
 
Well Mr value at lest you get a pittance for the pwer you produce. Ours is zilch Because our system is larger than 5kva (8.6) it is a complete donation into the Western Power grid.
 
Well Mr value at lest you get a pittance for the pwer you produce. Ours is zilch Because our system is larger than 5kva (8.6) it is a complete donation into the Western Power grid.
You definitely need at battery then.

Being paid $0.00 for you feed in tariff is robbery, I have a system larger than 5Kwh too, but that doesn't affect the feed in tariff, they just limit our exports to to 5 KWH / hour, so I have the hot water system set up to begin heating at 11 am each morning, and the car to begin charging at 9am, so something is normally running during peak production to prevent the system being limited.
 
Hot water is not a problem solar heating for that. Swimming pool runs all day and so does the bore. So its not all donation.
Had I reaslied at the time having 2 houes and meters should have split the system into 2 separate 5kva's and then got something back.
 
Well Mr value at lest you get a pittance for the pwer you produce. Ours is zilch Because our system is larger than 5kva (8.6) it is a complete donation into the Western Power grid.

That is a really poor outcome.

I don't know what the present limits are in Canberra where I live but at the time it was for single-phase a max 10 kWh could be installed and the feed-in tariff was limited to 5 kWh and for three-phase a max of 30 kWh could be installed and feed in tariff was limited to 10 kWh. I think that was the national standard applicable at that time (2019.)

While I have three-phase, the company I used did all the numbers on costs, roof space and orientation, shading issues and it was decided the extra cost for three-phase wasn't worth it. So single-phase 5 kWh string array inverter installed and another 5 kWh with optimisers. As it is two separate systems, both receive the feed in tariff although it has been reduced from 11c per kWh to 8c. When they can sell it to others at 27c per kWh it's difficult (impossible) to feel anything but annoyance with them when they bleat about how badly they are doing.
I know the combined solar production for Jan-Feb was approximately 3,600 kWh but I haven't checked the export figures. I also have solar hot water.

By the way, Canberra does not source its electricity from coal or gas. It's all from renewable and has been that way for a few years.

PS: Just had a look at my last bill. For 92 days ending on 8 February the export was 5,302 kWh
 
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By the way, Canberra does not source its electricity from coal or gas. It's all from renewable and has been that way for a few years.
Of course Canberra SOURCES all its electricity from renewables.
Renewables like Solar and wind farms, although there are no windfarms blighting the landscape of the ACT.
According to ABC News
So they paid for the setup of windfarms and solar panels in other states, rather than messing up their own backyards.
I don't know what the ACT does at night if the wind is blowing , hope like hell there is enough storage to tide them over?
Or do they just turn a blind eye to the inevitable days when the grid has to be supported by fossil fuels.

Mick
 
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