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It all boils back to energy density, as we talked about eons ago, in the Australian outback a pure E.V wont cut it ATM.No way, I'm not that keen. I'll stick to diesel before that, I like the way they drive, lots of torque.
From The driven
Given that they have such a big margin on sales, why would Tesla cannibalise that profit to make smaller cars?
Unless of course they have reached the point where the majority of those who would buy an EV have been satisfied, and now they have to compete on price with the entry level ICE cars.
They also have the Tesla Semi and Cybertruck about to commense production, are they going to be able to spread their people assets over so much area?
Mick
First production of cyber truck will be this year, ramping up to full production by 2024.Tesla cybertruck is still vapourware, they say retail deliveries will not start till early 2024 now, then you have to wait for RHD versions to kick in.
Rivian R1S and R1t , Ford F150 Lighting, Hummer, and Chevvy Silverado are all currently in production, some for over a year now, but still no announcements about RHD versions, in the case of the Rivian, and Hummer, they may never make RHD versions.
Chinese builder SAIC recently announced the LDV eT60, and electric version of its $WD ute , the T60. Unfortunately, the eT60 is only 2WD, with a paltry 310NM of Torque and a maximum of 1 tonne braked towing capacity, which retails for the princely sum of $92,990 RRP.
You may be better off getting an offroad capable vehicle you like, and paying someone to convert it to electric.
Mick
Interesting but fairly long review of the Hyundai ioniq 5 . A nice car but at almost $20k more than say a Tucson , is it good value ?
Hyundai IONIQ 5 Reviews - Models & Range | CarExpert
The Hyundai IONIQ 5's used prices in Australia typically range from $69,800 for the Ioniq 5 2wd (63kwh) variant and topping out at $114,383 for the N Srf (84.0kwh). There are 16 variants of the IONIQ 5 available in Australia and this generation went on sale in January of 2024. Engine options...www.carexpert.com.au
I didn't personally didn't like it very much, way too heavy on juice, slightly too big for my taste and the instrument cluster was too over the top techno, I kind of didn't know whether it was an Ipad or an arcade game.Interesting but fairly long review of the Hyundai ioniq 5 . A nice car but at almost $20k more than say a Tucson , is it good value ?
Hyundai IONIQ 5 Reviews - Models & Range | CarExpert
The Hyundai IONIQ 5's used prices in Australia typically range from $69,800 for the Ioniq 5 2wd (63kwh) variant and topping out at $114,383 for the N Srf (84.0kwh). There are 16 variants of the IONIQ 5 available in Australia and this generation went on sale in January of 2024. Engine options...www.carexpert.com.au
I am interested to see the Apple car if and when that eventuates, failing that I think the Model Y might be our next one.For Me and She our petrol car and diesel tray top ute will be with us for a couple of years yet. With this time frame in mind, it gives us a better opportunity to scour the market-place and see what will really suit us before either of us falls down into that 6 foot deep rectangle. From what research we have undertaken the Tesla is still in front. But who knows what will be the car of the future in a couple of year's time.
We are in no real rush to change vehicle style yet. At the moment the farm owns the vehicles and therefore are tax write downs each year, but the Model Y is certainly appealing.I am interested to see the Apple car if and when that eventuates, failing that I think the Model Y might be our next one.
Good deal if the price is right 50% off of course.The new partner at work has ordered a Tesla as his first car. He could get anything he wants.
Mercedes Benz and BMW and many others must be quivering in their boots.
I have asked him to ask me if I want to buy it off him when the 3 year lease is finished.
He is a work mate, of course he will give a special deal. ?Good deal if the price is right 50% off of course.
Q: I'm thinking of replacing my electric car with a fossil fuel car and have some questions?
1. I have heard that petrol cars cannot refuel at home while you sleep? How often do you have to refill elsewhere? Will there be a solution for refueling at home?
2. Which parts will I need to service and how often? The car salesman mentioned oil in the engine and timing belts that need replacing and a box with gears in it. What is this? How much will this service oil change cost and how often – and what happens to the old oil. Also apparently these petrol type cars generally stop on the brakes alone – so the brakes wear out much faster – how long will they last compared to my current car which lasts over 100k miles
3. In a petrol or diesel car, do I get fuel back when I slow down or drive downhill?
4. The car I test drove seemed to have a delay from the time I pressed the accelerator pedal until it began to accelerate. Is that normal in petrol cars?
5. We currently pay about 1.2p per mile to drive our electric car. I have heard that petrol can cost up to 8 times as much. Is this true?
6. Is it true that petrol is flammable?
7. I understand that the main ingredient in petrol is oil. Is it true that the extraction and refining of oil causes environmental problems as well as conflicts and major wars that over the last 100 years have cost millions of lives? Is there a solution?
8. I have also been told that you have to transport oil all over the world to turn into petrol or diesel, and these ships have in the past damaged the environment by leaking the oil, is that true?
9. I have heard that cars with internal combustion engines are being banned to enter more and more cities around the world, as it is claimed that they tend to harm the environment and health of their citizens? Is that true?
10. I have been told that these internal combustion engines make a noise when you start them – so early starts can wake people up, and driving a lot of internal combustion engine cars in towns makes towns noisy.
11. is it true people can steal the fuel from your tank
12. what is the drop in range in cold weather, I've been told a car that does 45mpg can drop to 37 mpg in winter – just curious on that one.
13. a friend told me that the exhausts wear out – is that true, and people steal them for the rare material used in them?
14. I was also told – that the exhaust gas isn’t good for you – and if you leave the car running in a confined space – like a garage – you will die – surly that isn’t true is it?
15. next door told me – these petrol cars – carry around 40 to 60 litres of highly flammable liquid which is pumped into a steel cylinder, and its then exploded to generate expanding gas to move a piston, and turn linear motion into rotary motion.
Why would anyone want thousands of explosions happening within a few feet of where you're sitting.
16. a guy at work told me – he has a petrol car, and it leaks oil. When he parks it – surely that’s not right is it – leaving dirty marks on the floor and contaminating the environment so directly. How long before this happens if I change.
17. my dad told me – if you buy a diesel car – the hand pump smells very bad, and you have to wear special gloves to stop your hand smelling, and if you spill it on your clothes it terrible.
18. is it true – the petrol and diesel is so dangerous, that you can only buy the fuel at a special filling station, and not anywhere else (hotels/Car parks/Home/Work)?
19. while technology is advancing, will I ever be able to refuel my internal combustion car for free using only the sun?
20. would I be better off going straight to horse and cart, and not buying a horseless carriage – they sound pretty awful, burning dinosaur juice and polluting the environment whilst funding conflict and war and consuming raw material at an unbelievably high rate.
Should have just left it there.Copied from another forum -
Should have just left it there.
mick
Yes, but it just comes across as another smug rich dude, putting it up the less fortunate, who can't afford to indulge themselves with buying an E.V.Why, no sense of humour? Every word was relevant.
Yes, but it just comes across as another smug rich dude, putting it up the less fortunate, who can't afford to indulge themselves with buying an E.V.
It's one of those taboo woke things, the rich woke are not supposed to be condescending, they are meant to speak and act in a humble and concerned manner, while flaunting their wealth.
That's how they rope in, um sorry, I mean gain the support and approval of the unwashed masses. ?
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