My thought is that with sufficient production and operating experience the hazards could likely be mitigated by design improvements. Clearly that hasn't been achieved yet but I don't see any fundamental reason why it couldn't be.If they are this flammable I would be very concerned about having big banks of lithium batteries in my home, also I am not all that excited by EVs now if they are going to ignite so violently.
My thought is that with sufficient production and operating experience the hazards could likely be mitigated by design improvements. Clearly that hasn't been achieved yet but I don't see any fundamental reason why it couldn't be.
Diesel is somewhat safe, it just burns and it's not overly easy to ignite, but the explosive force of a full tank of petrol or LPG mixed with air is enough to bring a decent sized building down. And yet we have millions of cars carrying exactly that and with very few incidents involving a fuel explosion or even fire.
Over the years some highly dangerous petrol powered cars did exist, they'd burst into flames quite easily in an accident, and some of the earlier gas powered buses had a tendency to randomly burst into flames in normal use (has happened in Australia more than once) but the knowledge gained was applied to future vehicles to avoid that problem.
Didn't a few lithium batteries in computers burst into flame in the past ?
I know it's dangerous to overcharge them, but other factors can cause them to explode.
https://www.howtogeek.com/338762/why-do-lithium-ion-batteries-explode/
The humble spud and CSIRO, to the rescue. lol
It sounds as though Australia's CSIRO, has come up with new fast charging system, they aren't giving much away obviously.
https://www.drive.com.au/news/csiro...ign=tile-2&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=smh
Absolutely and the brilliance of this is that Origin Energy will be able to take some of these potatoes with them when they go to the sun.This is April 1 isn't it ?
Jeez I have been away for the weekend, thanks for the heads up.This is April 1 isn't it ?
So am I, we are in a position, where we can just about go straight to hydrogen for transport.I'm still a fan of hydrogen cars for this country.
I don't see that we have any choice.So am I, we are in a position, where we can just about go straight to hydrogen for transport.
I agree with you, the only thing in our favour is, Korea (Hyundia and Kia) and also Japan (Toyota) are very keen on H2 and fuel cells.I don't see that we have any choice.
It's like computer operating systems or mobile phone networks. If the rest of the world decides up on Win 10 and 5G then that's what we're going to do. Same with cars, if the rest of the world goes battery then so are we, if they go hydrogen then so must we.
Reason being simply that we don't manufacture any of this stuff ourselves these days so whichever system others use is the one we'll have to use.
It's a Beta / VHS situation really. Regardless of which is best, it's the one that everyone else uses that you want to have.
Only way I can see Australia having a choice is if both systems are widely adopted in other countries where they drive on the left hand side of the road as we do.
Only way I can see Australia having a choice is if both systems are widely adopted in other countries where they drive on the left hand side of the road as we do.
It depends how the hydrogen is made, if from renewable supplied electrolysis, it is very clean.A lot of places are installing battery charge stations, so I'd say thats the way its going. Hydrogen cars are not considered that clean either. 600kms to a tank wasn't bad though.
I am not a fan of h2, potentially dangerous, extremely leaky, even thru metal, etcIt depends how the hydrogen is made, if from renewable supplied electrolysis, it is very clean.
This is a very grim news article given the driver died. A Tesla hit a tree and burst into flames. Obviously there has been no reason given as to why but further down in the article there is a mention of Lithium batteries. If they are this flammable I would be very concerned about having big banks of lithium batteries in my home, also I am not all that excited by EVs now if they are going to ignite so violently.
Tesla Slams Into Tree In Florida, Bursting Into Flames And Killing Driver
......Recall that in May of this year, two teens were killed after their Tesla sped into a wall in Fort Lauderdale, Florida. That crash caused the car's electric engine to catch fire. After that crash, the National Transportation Safety Board found that the Tesla's lithium ion battery, which was the source of the fire, reignited twice.
Have you heard when the Tesla's will hit Aust? Or are they still filling U.S orders?Do you understand that Tanks of petrol also often explode in flames when a car drives into a tree?
People will die in EV crashes, that is certainty, what interests me more what is the rate of deaths.
Eg, How many miles are driven per fatality by the national vehicle fleet vs How many miles are driven per fatality of autopilot enhanced EV's.
You can count on every Autopilot or driverless vehicle crash fatality making the news, but regular cars with human drivers are killing people every day, rarely making the news, local news at best.
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