Electric cars?

[Value Collector]

Come on VC we have been on here for a long time, you know and I know if evreryone was on electric there would be punch ups at outlets.
You have had your car on back order for two years and still don't have it.
You were talking it up two years ago, how many extra outlets have been put in.
I will just google it in W.A.
https://rac.com.au/travel-touring/maps-and-guides/ev-chargers
There you go, if every car has to stop at these outlets for minimum 40minutes, there will be punch ups.
It is just full on muppet talk at this point in time, maybe sometime in the future it will happen, but it wont be next week or next year. IMO

Mate do the math,

How many km’s do you drive everyday?

If it’s less than 400, you will never need to go to a charging station, you just charge at home each night, going to the petrol station is old fashioned thinking.

Charging stations are just for road trips, and as I said there is pretty much a national network already.

As the number or electric cars grows, so will the number of charging stations, but we will never need the same number of charging stations as we do petrol stations, and its much easier to install a charging bay than a petrol station.

 

[Humid]

A S model pulled up next to me at the lights and I got chatting to the driver
When I mentioned the torque his face lit up and said watch this
Geez no wheel spin no noise just gone.......fast

 

[sptrawler]

Even the new 2018 Nissan Leaf, will do the 0 _ 100 in 6 seconds. Electric is instant torque, but the battery will run out quickly if you keep flooring it. Lol

 

[Value Collector]

Even the new 2018 Nissan Leaf, will do the 0 _ 100 in 6 seconds. Electric is instant torque, but the battery will run out quickly if you keep flooring it. Lol

So will your fuel tank, at least will electric cars you have regenerative braking, so the people will lead feet aren’t wasting as much energy or brake pads

 

[qldfrog]

Funny isnt it that petrolheads are becoming the heros of CC war

 

[sptrawler]

Funny isnt it that petrolheads are becoming the heros of CC war

I think electric vehicles will be forced on the general public, most Countries are legislating the banning of ICE within a time frame.
So I guess there is no point in fighting the inevitable, life goes on, it is just the norm changes.

 

[qldfrog]

Do not take me wrong, i am looking forward at getting an electric myself only one i could consider last time i checked was the BMW one.

 

[Smurf1976]

Eg, if you started every day with a full tank of petrol, would you ever go to petrol stations? Of course not.

A true point - thinking back there would have been three occasions in the past decade when I've used more than a full tank of fuel in a single day.

Where it gets complex however is that there would be rather a lot where there's no current infrastructure with which to charge overnight. Anyone parked on the street in particular has that problem and that's a lot of cars.

 

[sptrawler]

Do not take me wrong, i am looking forward at getting an electric myself only one i could consider last time i checked was the BMW one.

I will be waiting untill they are common place, and the infrastructure is in place to support them.
When I was younger, I was an early up taker, Tandy TRS80 16kb of memory no such thing as the internet, comes to mind.
I will wait untill they are viable, if I'm still here.

 

[Darc Knight]

I will be waiting untill they are common place, and the infrastructure is in place to support them.
When I was younger, I was an early up taker, Tandy TRS80 16kb of memory no such thing as the internet, comes to mind.
I will wait untill they are viable, if I'm still here.

Mid to late 80s. Yep, had a Tandy computer. Either that or an Atari Home computer - only two on the market after Commodore. Two giants in the computer market

 

[sptrawler]

Mid to late 80s. Yep, had a Tandy computer. Either that or an Atari Home computer - only two on the market after Commodore. Two giants in the computer market

It was before the Atari and Commodre from memory, the only other around at the time I think was a Sinclair ZX81 produced by Timex lol.
When the Commodore came out it was unbelievable, 64K of memory, unbelievable.

 

[ghotib]

A true point - thinking back there would have been three occasions in the past decade when I've used more than a full tank of fuel in a single day.

Where it gets complex however is that there would be rather a lot where there's no current infrastructure with which to charge overnight. Anyone parked on the street in particular has that problem and that's a lot of cars.

Another true point, and possibly another reason why rising generations won't bother to own their own vehicles.

 

[PZ99]

It's a pity they didn't go with the 70's idea of battery replacement stations like they do with forklifts etc. Much better than charging stations with 40 minute waiting times.

Until electric cars have at least a thousand k range between charges they aren't viable for me.

 

[SirRumpole]

It was before the Atari and Commodre from memory, the only other around at the time I think was a Sinclair ZX81 produced by Timex lol.
When the Commodore came out it was unbelievable, 64K of memory, unbelievable.

No there was the Apple II, my first computer, pretty good for its day, and guess what, they are still in business.

Commodore built a good machine called the Amiga, pity it didn't catch on.

 

[sptrawler]

It's a pity they didn't go with the 70's idea of battery replacement stations like they do with forklifts etc. Much better than charging stations with 40 minute waiting times.

Until electric cars have at least a thousand k range between charges they aren't viable for me.

Range and charge times are definitely the problem, especially when you get away from the Cities.
Even running LPG cars is a problem in Country W.A, so electric will be a nightmare, you can't carry a couple of jerry cans of electricity.
No doubt they will sort it out, but it wont be any time soon. IMO

 

[sptrawler]

No there was the Apple II, my first computer, pretty good for its day, and guess what, they are still in business.

Commodore built a good machine called the Amiga, pity it didn't catch on.

We really are showing our age.
Apple have done amazing well, considering Microsoft bailed them out, in the 1990's.

 

[rederob]

It's a pity they didn't go with the 70's idea of battery replacement stations like they do with forklifts etc. Much better than charging stations with 40 minute waiting times.

Until electric cars have at least a thousand k range between charges they aren't viable for me.

You would be an outlier.
My last workplace involved daily travel averaging about 1000km a week, and this would be a doddle with an EV and overnight charging.
Even longer trips with a coffee/recharge break for 15 minutes every 2 hours would comfortably get me Brisbane <> Sydney in most EVs now on the market.
With faster recharging technology being available, and longer-range vehicles hitting the market there is probably going to be a product for 99% of the car market by 2023.

 

[SirRumpole]

Diesel or petrol electric hybrids seem to be a good compromise between the extremes until the charging network can be fully established.

They seem to offer the best of both worlds, electric around town, ICE for long trips thus averting range fear.

 

[Lantern]

0-60-MPH in 3secs and a ute to boot. I likes this.

 

[Humid]

How do they measure the motor capacity for rego?