Electric cars?

[Wysiwyg]

horse and cart revolution will bring problems of its own
the stench from fecal matter in the streets,

You may be surprised to know horse **** doesn't stink unlike human waste although some may think theirs does not.

 

[luutzu]

$85,000 ? And the rest !

You may get a 'standard' car for that , but the options to make it liveable will kill your bank balance.

$85K USD.

But man that looks awesome.

The thing with Tesla is its cars look too ordinary for the price tag. It's not bad looking, just not unique enough.

 

[Johny5]

The thing with Tesla is its cars look too ordinary for the price tag. It's not bad looking, just not unique enough.

My brother in law had a Tesla model S on loan for a week (won the loan in a competition). Your right they don't look like much but my god do they go (like the proverbial **** off a shovel) once the batteries are warmed up (yes warmed up to give peak power) I don't think any car on the road can beat it off the line up to 100KPH. The acceleration can only be described as neck snapping, in fact you need to be sitting properly back in the seat before tramping the accelerator to the floor, oh and make sure that no cars are in front within sight or they might get a rude shock when they find you in their back seat. And all you can hear is the hum from the motors and a slight squealing of the tyres. A real wolf in sheep's clothing.

 

[basilio]

Makes you think..

China is adding a London-sized electric bus fleet every five weeks

China is the world's pioneer in full scale adoption of electric busses.
Image: Proterra
26 Apr 2018


That’s the equivalent of the entire London bus fleet, says a new report by Bloomberg New Energy Finance.

The world has around 3 million buses. Most run on diesel and compressed natural gas. The global fleet of electric buses now totals around 385,000 vehicles - and 99% of those are in China.

China goes electric


Image: Bloomberg New Energy Finance
China has the biggest urban population in the world and air pollution is a major health hazard in Chinese cities. It’s also a high-profile political issue, says the report, so authorities must be seen to be doing everything in their power to clean up city air. On a broader economic level, China also wants to reduce its dependency on oil.

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2018...don-sized-electric-bus-fleet-every-five-weeks

Strict air quality targets are driving the demand for electric buses. The government is subsidizing operators in the purchase and deployment of new fleets of environmentally friendly public transport fleets. Until the end of 2016, national and regional subsidies combined to bring the initial capital cost of an e-bus to below that of a similar diesel bus.

 

[SirRumpole]

I wonder if its practicable to place some electric cable under roads that cars can draw their power from instead of having to rely on batteries ?

What do you know, it's already been thought of.

https://theconversation.com/wired-u...e-your-electric-car-while-youre-driving-72625

 

[explod]

And this:-

http://www.solarroadways.com/

No end to what we can and will do but the corporates need to sell their oil and coal shares first.

Oh, and then be in charge of the alternatives. It's the money Ralf.

 

[basilio]

How to move quickly on electric buses when you want to.. And the outcomes.

Electric Bus Fleet?
by Lu Lu, Lulu Xue and Weimin Zhou - April 04, 2018
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Electric buses have replaced diesel ones in Shenzhen, China. Photo by Lu Lu/WRI China
Diesel buses—and the choking smog they spew—are a common sight in most cities. But not in Shenzhen, China.

The southeastern city, which connects Hong Kong to mainland China, announced at the end of last year that all of its 16,359 buses had gone electric. The city’s buses are the world’s first 100 percent electrified bus fleet, and its largest—bigger than New York’s, Los Angeles’s, New Jersey’s, Chicago’s and Toronto’s electric bus fleets combined.

How the city overcame obstacles like high costs, lack of charging station infrastructure and more provides lessons for other cities looking to electrify their bus lines.
http://www.wri.org/blog/2018/04/how-did-shenzhen-china-build-world-s-largest-electric-bus-fleet

 

[Joules MM1]

Norway - 52% of new car sales are hybrid or electric. Drivers of electric cars get car tax exemption, free charging, free parking, free use of tolls and ferries.

 

[Joules MM1]

LONDON (Reuters) - The number of electric vehicles on roads worldwide rose to a record high of 3.1 million in 2017, but more research, policies and incentives are needed to drive further uptake, the International Energy Agency (IEA) said. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...1e9e&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter

 

[Joules MM1]

yaaand not just cars

 

[sptrawler]

Digressing a bit, but it did come up in this thread a long time back, when we were discussing batteries versus hydrogen.
https://thewest.com.au/business/avi...-to-london-in-two-hours-by-2050-ng-b88879795z

It's scram jet technology, which will force the renewable industry toward h2.
Renewables can't be charging batteries and making hydrogen, on a major scale. Batteries will be there for voltage stability and instantaneous response, but hydrogen storage has to be the main game, for transport.
Sorry Iuutzu, it isn't scam jet. lol

 

[sptrawler]

Looks like S.A company VOLTRA, is getting into the E.V space, great to see.

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/bhp-electric-ute-vs-tesla-pickup-2018-6

 

[sptrawler]

The next step in battery technology seems to be on the horizon, well they know what they need to do, now they just have to work out how.

https://www.caradvice.com.au/646463/solid-state-batteries/

It is starting to get to the capacitor/battery hybrid technology, we talked about at the beginning of the thread.

 

[sptrawler]

Here is some good news, Porsche will have an electric vehicle in Australia, by 2020.

https://www.drive.com.au/motor-news...aycan-119044.html?ffref=theage&trackLink=SMH0

Now the hybrid might interest me.

 

[Smurf1976]

Porsche is VW these days.

Don't get too excited:

http://www.thebull.com.au/articles/...may-have-to-recall-124,000-electric-cars.html

 

[BlindSquirrel]

Can't be caught cheating environmental emissions testing if the car doesn't make any emissions!

 

[PZ99]

Can't be caught cheating environmental emissions testing if the car doesn't make any emissions!

I expect the next "adjustment of truth" will be the advertised range between each charge for EVs.

0-100kph - 2.5s / range 400k's... all downhill. lol

Am interested in doing a retro fit myself - my power is free

 

[sptrawler]

The momentum to hydrogen continues, it isn't if, it's when.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-...-csiro-game-changer-export-potential/10082514

 

[SirRumpole]

The momentum to hydrogen continues, it isn't if, it's when.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-...-csiro-game-changer-export-potential/10082514

The question is why would countries like Japan buy hydrogen from us when they can make it themselves using ammonia they produce ?

There would have to be some patented process that we could license to make any profit for us.

 

[sptrawler]

The question is why would countries like Japan buy hydrogen from us when they can make it themselves using ammonia they produce ?

There would have to be some patented process that we could license to make any profit for us.

Japan doesn't have the quantity of renewable energy required, to make the hydrogen, we do.

The ammonia is only the storage medium, the hydrogen is produced then added to the ammonia for transport, then extracted at its destination.
This is a good article, explaining the processes required and the advantages of hydrogen.
http://www.solarpaces.org/missing-link-solar-hydrogen-ammonia/