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You basically think this is a survival of the fittest.
Basically because I don't want to see umpteen thousands of people die just because we as a society aren't willing to try and protect them from infection. The fact that at least 3 countries have managed to control the spread of the virus by quarantine and isolation tells me this is possible.
Lets do it.
If i had a possibility to place a bet with access to real not forged info,We also need to stop it happening again.
Politically incorrect to say it but let's stamp out this virus and also stamp out these dodgy food markets which caused the problem in the first place.
For all the things that everyone from the military to environmentalists has been worrying about all these years, from weapons of mass destruction through to shopping bags, reality is that none have caused as much harm to humanity as these markets. They must go, the whole lot, no excuses, no warnings, no tolerance.
To be clear, that's not just a China thing as the same poor practices occur elsewhere too. It cannot be allowed to continue anywhere.
I'm normally a bit more friendly but this has stuffed the whole world basically such that drastic action to prevent a recurrence seems more than justified.
Until the government back stops EVERYONE in this situation, it's going to deteriorate over the coming months. A lot of people have terrible personal balance sheets, let alone their businesses. A cancellation of GST & PAYG might help but it doesn't solve the problem that 99% of businesses need income not relief on liabilities, that helps but it's only one part of the equation.1500 euro to businesses.
What a joke.
That will cover 2 people for a week!
Doesn't go far enough to keep these guys in business.
(1) Moratorium on Rent
(2) On Business loans from Over drafts to Plant loans.
(3) Perhaps a suspension of GST (Businesses) type taxes or even
personal taxes (Employees) for a month review monthly.
(4) Payroll type taxes suspended.
(5) Mortgages in Moratorium.
(6) 70% Food vouchers rather than money for those on benefits
or become on benefits.
(7) Moratorium on Utilities (In place).
Immediately dont debate it!
This isn't a permanent thing but needs Immediate stimulation and
genuine practical help in the immediate short term.
These things will / could help.
Everyone needs to share the pain from Employers to staff to GOVT!
Until the government back stops EVERYONE in this situation, it's going to deteriorate over the coming months. A lot of people have terrible personal balance sheets, let alone their businesses. A cancellation of GST & PAYG might help but it doesn't solve the problem that 99% of businesses need income not relief on liabilities, that helps but it's only one part of the equation.
I think something equivalent of a universal basic income to keep people's bills, rent/mortgage paid & food in their belly. For everyone not just existing pensioners.
The dumb thing is I know a lot of small business owners trying to maximize the 50% rebate of PAYG. I just shake my head at the stupidity of spending large amounts of capital in this environment. It's not a normal operating environment so I don't think normal rules apply.
I do agree with everything you say, I just think there's a lot of turmoil for a temporary event which I think would be alleviated by some sort of guarantee you're not going to go broke. It would let people get on with it instead of worrying. It definitely shouldn't last forever though as pointed out.While this is not normal there are normal common sense rules that can apply.
How much toilet paper,food,essentials do you need? How much money?
What can I do to help everyone else.
Where can I lead by example--start with friends, colleagues and family.
Many businesses rely on small margin and high turn over like a Restaurant or coffee shop store ---
Deli--lose traffic and you lose your income stream.
So the hospitality industry will be hit hard but take away and home delivery is likely to boom.
Businesses need to be at least profitable to survive.
The first thing to do is Shrink
The second is to cut costs--be smart dont look for hand outs.
Help your employees be smart.
Restore confidence in them -- find ways together. The cream will
rise to the top.
Don' t expect the Govt to solve all problems.
Or be the knight in shining Armour rescuing us all!
They cant and wont. But YOU can look after YOUR lot.
Setting and distributing a basic income is fraught with endless issues
Who gets it
How do you prove you qualify.
Where does the money come from
Is there a means test.
Policing fraud.
Could you dip into super to survive in this extreme case for
a defined period and a defined amount.
There is an end and it will come BEFORE ----" THE END ".
Wont be easy but we will come out of this strong and wiser.
I personally like the way leaders are leading.
I might not 100% agree but they are picking up on the good
ideas and running fast.
Some maybe in hind site over the top but better to be too
conservative in this situation.
Heroes will be bare handed in front of a militia.
I do agree with everything you say, I just think there's a lot of turmoil for a temporary event which I think would be alleviated by some sort of guarantee you're not going to go broke. It would let people get on with it instead of worrying. It definitely shouldn't last forever though as pointed out.
Our family business has been able to work remotely for a while now, we're now doing that as of today and giving a little bit extra this pay to help with any extra bills like extra internet/electricity. We think we'll survive but it's not going to be pretty for the next 6 months.
Foreign workers might be replaced by an aussie born labour force to some degree.So far our food supplies have been guaranteed. Maybe that can change ?
Harvests could be lost if coronavirus travel restrictions lead to labour shortages on Australian farms
Fruit and vegetable farmers face looming labour deficit in the absence of backpackers and other foreign workers they rely on for picking
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-lead-to-labour-shortages-on-australian-farms
Foreign workers might be replaced by an aussie born labour force to some degree.
We might come out the end of all this and see an importance in having some of our own manufacturing industries and keeping some goodies for ourselves. Nice to see a crayfish in the shops again.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03...9-australia-latest-news-live-updates/12061250"We're air freighting in product but even air freight to Europe where our product comes from is a couple of weeks away. "Because now Germany and everybody is shutting their borders and that's where everyone get their product from. So we're going to have to wait a couple of weeks until we can get back into full production."
Send all those without jobs in the hospitality industry and others up there!!!
I agree. Become more self sufficient. Help yourself people!
How about this as a headline.
Huge Employment opportunities with our farmers.
Which inspires?
I do agree with everything you say, I just think there's a lot of turmoil for a temporary event which I think would be alleviated by some sort of guarantee you're not going to go broke. It would let people get on with it instead of worrying. It definitely shouldn't last forever though as pointed out.
Our family business has been able to work remotely for a while now, we're now doing that as of today and giving a little bit extra this pay to help with any extra bills like extra internet/electricity. We think we'll survive but it's not going to be pretty for the next 6 months.
Cant we place more goodies in empty jumbos. Humans at one end loading, Humans at the other end off loading. Travel restrictions are applied to humans not products. Govt may be able to fund the flight.A New South Wales chemical manufacturer has suspended it's production of hand sanitiser due to international chemical shortages.
The chief executive of Nowchem on the NSW's south coast, John Lamont, says the factory was making 5,000 litres per day when the coronavirus outbreak started. He says the company will now have to wait until at least Easter to resume production.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03...9-australia-latest-news-live-updates/12061250
I think this will prove to be part of the answer. We should be ashamed of ourselves if we end up with rotting fruit ploughed into the fields, large unemployment, and people sitting on their toilet rolls in cities with their hand out for govt $.I agree it is essential to somehow ensure people and businesses can survive this event. If it has to be a basic universal wage maybe that's what it is.
Foreign workers might be replaced by an aussie born labour force to some degree.
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