A simple request to do the right thing would have been nice, but unfortunately the Vic government's hand was forced when every other state decided to lock Victoria out. We're left with no choice but to go full virus elimination to bring us back in line with the rest of the country.
A simple request to do the right thing would have been nice, but unfortunately the Vic government's hand was forced when every other state decided to lock Victoria out. We're left with no choice but to go full virus elimination to bring us back in line with the rest of the country.
The point is how, exactly, were they to get home?The obligation was to advise our Australian citizens to immediately come home. The advice was ignored.
You tell someone to not jump off a bridge and they do; it is not your fault.
The point is how, exactly, were they to get home?
Australia is an island and 99%+ of all overseas travelers are reliant on a commercially operated aircraft or ship in order to travel from wherever they are back to Australia.
There's the problem. Being told to come home is nothing more than words if there's no means to actually do so as has been the case for many. Buying a ticket for a plane that ends up not flying doesn't get you anywhere.
Blaming the unemployed for being out of work at the moment and blaming businesses in Victoria for going broke would be in the same category. True, they're out of work or broke but there's stuff all they can do to avoid it so rather harsh to blame them for a situation that's outside of their control.
Most of those stuck overseas would have come home months ago if they could get here just as businesses would be open if the law allowed them to.
Very few are in practice going to defy both the airline and government in order to force their way onto such a flight given they can't board it legally. Even if they did, odds are the Captain won't be flying that plane anywhere with that passenger onboard.They had months to get home with plenty of room on flights at a reasonable cost.
Very few are in practice going to defy both the airline and government in order to force their way onto such a flight. Even if they did, odds are the Captain won't be flying that plane anywhere with that passenger onboard.
With governments capping the number of arrivals and airlines routinely bumping economy and even business class customers off flights actually getting home is not an option for many and hasn't been since the pandemic commenced.
Victoria will be fully operating again within weeks, aside from a handful of sectors which cannot 'socially distance' effectively, like events.
I would also expect state borders will largely come down by Christmas and we should see BIG interstate movement. Families have been kept apart for too long and many will be itching to travel interstate.
No disrespect (I mean that genuinelyAussies had 3 months to get home!
Fine: I have an intricate knowledge of commercial aviation; based on ~10 years of work experience in aviation engineering; and we disagree.
No disrespect (I mean that genuinely) but how many times in your 10 years were airlines bumping Economy Class passengers off flights because someone had bought a First Class ticket and will be occupying a First Class seat?
I'll take a good guess that you never saw it because under normal circumstances pre-pandemic that just didn't happen.
How the airlines are making money whilst flying near empty planes and leaving most passengers on the ground is another question but an important one since ultimately there must be a limit to their financial resources. At some point they need paying customers in those seats.
Well I have travelled all the classes. Never bought or really paid for any flights: just paid for it in blood, sweat and tears to make sure you people got to you destination. Working all through the night; rain, hail or shine, to make sure you little ones got your destination safely; that's what I remember.
Anyway it has been a decade since then.
Chronos, I know you are angry, but being condescending and almost childish doesn't help with discussion, depart or provide strength to you beliefs on this subject matter.
Take a breather and then contribute with sensible discussion. Or this little one will come and break your bones (sic).
Please, I worked until 3.30am last night and am still working to pay my staff (who often get paid before me, but without them i ??), who I respect for the commitment and dedication.
Hard times allow some to grow and become better people.
Please, I worked until 3.30am last night and am still working to pay my staff (who often get paid before me, but without them i ??), who I respect for the commitment and dedication.
Hard times allow some to grow and become better people.
I should say, I never complain, I have a roof over my head, food on the table and friends & family that provide love.
I'll simply say that I've been there, done that with working 7 days a week, long shifts, on call 24 hours a day and all that. No doubt plenty of others have done so too in various industries which are essential to the general community. If circumstances require that I do that again then I'll do so sure, no problem.You people have no idea about work mate.
I'll simply say that I've been there, done that with working 7 days a week, long shifts, on call 24 hours a day and all that. No doubt plenty of others have done so too in various industries which are essential to the general community. If circumstances require that I do that again then I'll do so sure, no problem.
That doesn't preclude having a sensible and polite discussion even if we disagree on the points raised.
There's no certainty as to how all this ends, we're all observing and speculating to some extent, since there's no relevant precedent for current circumstances.
A little bit angry mate.
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