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Will I have to unplug all my electrical devices at 9:29pm to avoid a massive power surge as everyone turns on their lights at once? Or is this an urban myth?
 
Logique said:
Will I have to unplug all my electrical devices at 9:29pm to avoid a massive power surge as everyone turns on their lights at once? Or is this an urban myth?
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lol
Stay away from Balmain, as well, they are making a Wicker Man, in which to torch a worker who has not voted for the Greens.

gg
 
If your looking for me im the house that looks like a xmas tree..... im calling it "light hour"
 
thankyou Sails. life intervened over the last few months but hopefully on track now. I went to the football last night and they kept repeating the message that if the lights go out, then to stay seated and the emergency lights would be activated. We thought then that the spike at 9.30 when the feel goods turned their lights back on, and the theory it might cause a blackout, might have been taken seriously by the AFL. In any event, at 9.30 the Crows supercharged and whooped Hawthorn. Maybe there was some good in it after all! :p:
 
In a show of defiance, I had all of the external lights on.

I also praised my wife when she happily put both the heater and airconditioner on at the same time.

And the great part is that I got such a sense of satisfaction, because even though it cost me money, I knew that I was not warming the planet, the sun was a couple of hours earlier.

www.solarcycle24.com
 
Logique said:
Will I have to unplug all my electrical devices at 9:29pm to avoid a massive power surge as everyone turns on their lights at once? Or is this an urban myth?
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Thanks, you have just inspired a shirt I shall get printed!!!

"medicowallet - protecting the naive from power surges since 2007"

Thanks!
 
trainspotter said:
Now wait a minute ........ What would happen if everyone turned there lights/airconditioning etc all back on at the same time? DOH ! More coal and gas for the furnace to cover the "spike" in energy use. :banghead:
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Lights - not too much of an issue since they don't use much power anyway.

Air-conditioning - if everyone switches this on all at once then there is a real possibility of a system black (ie total shutdown of the grid) across Qld, NSW, ACT, Vic and SA. Tas would cope fairly well due to the operating characteristics of hydro turbines, whilst it's a bit questionable what would happen in NT (probably be OK but it's a bit questionable).

That said, if they did it at precisely the same time then the system will go down for sure due to the start up loads of air-conditioners. You'll overload every distribution transformer in the country if people try that. :2twocents
 
Some disturbing posts here.

I can understand that people might prefer not to participate in earth hour for various reasons. They might find it inconvenient. They might think it pointless because it doesn’t directly reduce resource usage. They might simply have no personal desire to reduce their resource usage. Fair enough. Don’t participate.

But to go out of your way and turn extra lights on to protest against earth hour? Why is raising awareness and encouraging people not to be wasteful such a bad thing? Is it so bad that people feel they need to act to stop it?

This isn’t an attack on personal freedoms. No one is being forced to change.
 
OWG,

Utter nonsense? Did someone knock on your door and say “Sorry, sir. This is earth hour. You’re going to have to turn all your lights off.” ?

Your response misses my point entirely. This isn’t another global warming debate. It is to encourage people to think a little about whether they are wasting resources.

Fortunately, most people would prefer to pass on a half decent world to their children. If you think its so great to thumb your nose at that, live for a while in China and see what happens when no one gives a *@#% about sustainability.
 
Ferret said:
OWG,

Utter nonsense? Did someone knock on your door and say “Sorry, sir. This is earth hour. You’re going to have to turn all your lights off.” ?

Your response misses my point entirely. This isn’t another global warming debate. It is to encourage people to think a little about whether they are wasting resources.

Fortunately, most people would prefer to pass on a half decent world to their children. If you think its so great to thumb your nose at that, live for a while in China and see what happens when no one gives a *@#% about sustainability.
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Gee, the only thing you'll be passing on is taxes that lead to nothing but poverty.

Nobody is knocking on my door cause they're at home with candles staring into a dark corner. Although just prior to that there were: Earth Hr ads all over TV, Ads on the Radio, poster ads, Kids at school were being programmed about dangerous life giving CO2 and earth hr is the token effort to remind them about Green indoctrination.

Yep, that's it, Earth Hour has nothing to do with the $80B climate change/disruption/warming campaign that's been running for 25+ yrs that's a proven fake. Earth Hour is instead, simply a reminder to not waste stuff.

How about we don't waste $80B on useless propaganda and invest that into innovation.
 
Ferret said:
This isn’t an attack on personal freedoms. No one is being forced to change.
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Yet.

I think that many will still have the water restrictions firmly in their mind. You know, the ones that some governments wanted to keep in place even as the dams overflowed for no reason other than to restrict usage for the sake of it.

Government already has a seriously bad track record when it comes to this sort of thing. Sadly, conservation and socialism seem to be joined at the hip. Note the repeated calls to ban cars in various locations, force people to catch trains to work and so on.

And of course government has already banned light bulbs as such. Surely that is the ultimate point being made here - conservation of natural resources YES, centralised control over everything we do NO.

As for the general perception that Earth Hour this year was a failure, whereas it had been a success in previous years, I would suggest that has a lot to do with the general public becoming tired of the whole CO2 issue.
 
OzWaveGuy said:
Gee, the only thing you'll be passing on is taxes that lead to nothing but poverty.

Nobody is knocking on my door cause they're at home with candles staring into a dark corner. Although just prior to that there were: Earth Hr ads all over TV, Ads on the Radio, poster ads, Kids at school were being programmed about dangerous life giving CO2 and earth hr is the token effort to remind them about Green indoctrination.

Yep, that's it, Earth Hour has nothing to do with the $80B climate change/disruption/warming campaign that's been running for 25+ yrs that's a proven fake. Earth Hour is instead, simply a reminder to not waste stuff.

How about we don't waste $80B on useless propaganda and invest that into innovation.
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Couldn't agree more. Ferret, can you see what OWG is saying here, and the utter irony of the so called earth hour? It's romantic, sentimental absolute nonsense.


Smurf1976 said:
And of course government has already banned light bulbs as such. Surely that is the ultimate point being made here - conservation of natural resources YES, centralised control over everything we do NO.
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Agree. The majority of the population are not awake to the level governments are attempting to interfere with our autonomy. When they finally wake up it will be too late.

As for the general perception that Earth Hour this year was a failure, whereas it had been a success in previous years, I would suggest that has a lot to do with the general public becoming tired of the whole CO2 issue.
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I sincerely hope you are right in this.
 
No, I don't agree at all. If you don't agree with earth hour, don't participate.

But turning all your lights on during earth hour is the sort of selfish behaviour you see from little children.

The message that sends is "I don't give a damn about my world. I'm going to live it up now and I don't care what the world's like after I'm gone".
 
Extraordinary thread and replies, interesting behavior people not even thinking about saving energy or the future implications I guess it would be the same as having 1 hour free of whinging on ASF..............impossible.

Sounds so much like the yanks lets just burn it all good one guys.
 
Ferret said:
The message that sends is "I don't give a damn about my world. I'm going to live it up now and I don't care what the world's like after I'm gone".
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That's it, live by candles now so that those living in a 1000yrs can thank you for the unmeasurable 0.00005 Deg C difference in world temperature.

according to Flannery, the world won’t be safer until your grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren’s grandchildren are on the scene.

Of course this assumes that Government actually invests in the right technology and manages the wealth of new taxes and not throw money to the wind as currently demonstrated.

Utter nonsense lapped up by gullible "we have to be seen to do something but not achieve anything" crowd.
 
OWG,

You are so fixated on global warming that you can’t see this is about raising awareness so that people try to avoid resource waste.

Hey, but we’re ok. Australia is a rich country. We can afford to use what we want. I’ll just jump in the 4WD and head to the supermarket for a case of bottled water shipped half way around the world.
 
Ferret said:
OWG,

You are so fixated on global warming that you can’t see this is about raising awareness so that people try to avoid resource waste.

Hey, but we’re ok. Australia is a rich country. We can afford to use what we want. I’ll just jump in the 4WD and head to the supermarket for a case of bottled water shipped half way around the world.
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We all know it is not about resource waste, it is about AGW propaganda, please don't take us all for fools.

Will you happily pay my tax if I personally decrease my carbon footprint to pre-2000 levels?

Because even if I do, I still have to pay a tax for no reason whatsoever. Can you not see the stupidity?

Why has carbon dioxide gone up 5% since 1998 and temperature stayed the same?
What is happening with the sun?

Please people, open up your inquisitive minds and stop taking the extremely well remunerated IPCC scientists word as gospel. Without global warming (read climate change), they would be on $30k looking at graphs on a pentium 3, as opposed to travelling to conferences around the world, staying in top class hotels, and hobnobbing with fellow "believers". I wonder if there is any incentive to make a position in the face of having no evidence that humans are causing dangerous global warming.
 
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