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The 'Dump it here' thread lacks posters..
Sorry Skate, busy here too. Full moon planting and festivities for a few days on the farm (gotta keep the Pagans and Wiccans happy) plus a few more wwoofers have arrived. Firing up the pizza ovens to feed the masses again tonight
I've already told you everything I know
LOL Skate ….. You type faster than I can read
This thread is full of some excellent advice and great ideas ……
People however take time to digest things …
The thread will have longevity and benefit to readers well into the future for the above reasons
My advice is to carry on as you were Sir and take no notice regarding the lack of posters
Barney, this thread is current only while it’s on the front pages of the Recent Posts.
Thanks Skate for your advice in the other thread. Yeah, we are all beginners in this game. After 30 years, amazing how you can still fall into the traps. All these years, I have used my excel sheets.
As you say, easy to buy...much harder to exit. These last 12 months or so not so bad for me, as I have been very active in short term trading and if it aint working, move on. Achieved 225k, including dividends using 450k...but too much left on the table. When I look at my exits, most if not all are on the downside of the bell...And some times, I have exited one day and bought in the next, usually for a win.
My biggest failures were in pot and Bitcoin stocks...never again I venture into this abyss..
My aim this year is to get stronger at exits and if the stop loss is there, #$%^& STOP and get out.
I get too floppy at the reasoning setting my stop losses and when I arrive there, I some times think umm, another few days and it will improve..yeah, right......
Ged
you could input a counter on the first page now Joe has stickied it up...maybe Joe could edit with a counter for you?.
....all of my other posts have already been forgotten.
I've just made it a Sticky thread, so it's now permanently located at the top of the list of threads in the Beginner's Lounge forum.
you could input a counter on the first page now Joe has stickied it up...maybe Joe could edit with a counter for you?
either way may napkin math suggests you have more than you think
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i have to say i would like to see you move from "this is the house you can build" phase thru to "this is where i like to place my furniture" ....kinda thing
you could input a counter on the first page now Joe has stickied it up...maybe Joe could edit with a counter for you?
either way may napkin math suggests you have more than you think
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i have to say i would like to see you move from "this is the house you can build" phase thru to "this is where i like to place my furniture" ....kinda thing
i also suggest, with respect, you begin to index these posts so you can refer back and go indepth, build a chronology, an index, a pathway if you like
build an initial master index for yourself with http's set for each subject that way you'll have a chain to work from, making a comprehensive pathway for a complete newbie
Joules MM1, did I tell you I lose interest in projects very quickly ?
Its hard enough punching out words as I think of them , I shudder to think of how many grammatical errors I've made.
I'm thinking of just answering questions in future as it's hard to know what others are interested in.
Long posts are boring to write as well for others to read (we all know this)
Skate.
the one thing about the auction process most find out is you need to "find out" before you know the right questions to ask, it's like no other interaction anyone deals with
maybe they get boring ...for you
any moment there's a thirsty individual gotta drink from the cup and if the cups too big they'll get a forkhoist..they just have to drink
Thank you Joe for making this 'Dump it here' thread a Sticky
Also to those members who have engaged in this thread - thank you from the bottom of my heart. I have read each & every post many times over. The members who have freely shared an experience or expressed an opinion here - thank you.
Why post ?
If my posts affect anyone's behaviour, I'm a winner - that's my end game..
Our community is worth promoting, we all share the same values & have a common interest.
Gringotts Bank, most traders & fund managers don't have a good handle on how the market works, you think they would should know but they don't.
This will turn into a long post that would be boring for others to read, so I'll keep it as succinctly as possible by giving basic examples that others many understand.
How a business makes money
1. They Buy right (at wholesale prices)
2. The sell right (at retail prices)
3. Control their expenses
4. Pay their Tax obligations
5. Pocket the balance
The manipulators
1. Buy right at wholesales prices (the low price)
2. Sell right at retail prices (the high price)
How do traders lose money ?
1. They buy at Retail (at the top of the price range)
2. They sell at Wholesale (at the bottom of the price range)
3. Manipulators know where your stops are (its called gunning for stops) all they have to do is force to that level, emotions will do the rest.
You've seen the charts.
1. The prices are pushed up
2. The prices are dragged down
3. Wash & repeat (that's what causes the Zip Zap pattern you see on the charts)
The Fund Managers
1. Their business model is to make money for the company & surprise, surprise they don't make money for you (that's not their job)
2. They track Indexes by only buying non volatile companies & they are after the dividends (capital growth is a bonus)
3. Their business model is to keep you fully invested (their profits comes from funds under management)
4. The funds under management attract a management fee, whether you win or lose money, they don't care (its not about you)
Investment vehicles
Safe long term investments vehicle the type 'Fund Managers' use have a low payoff ratio (that's why the lower than expected performance results)
Ocean Cruises & Industry/Retail Funds are the same
Ocean Cruises & Industry/Retail Funds can't turn sharply, they can't zip here & zip there like a little speed boat can (that's us by the way, we are the speed boats) & for Fund Managers to change course it's not in their DNA (that's a lot of effort for them to change course, chasing returns just for members , WHY - there is no payoff for them)
CommSec
I've posted about CommSec ringing me, alerting that I'll shift the market with the size of some my positions (think about this - are they ringing me for my benefit or for theirs ?)
They see both sides
CommSec are active traders, I've taken their trades & they have taken the other side of mine, they do market swaps all the time, the problem as I see it is that they get to see both sides of the market & allowed to be active players ( who would have thunk it ! )
This is a quick & dirty response to a much larger problem. I know all this & I still trade, picking up the splashes the big boys makes it profitable for me. (I see the move, I jump on & ride that sucker till I see them change course, than I'm off the bugger)
Skate.
So the big players aren't the manipulators. That doesn't add up.
Who are the manipulators?
The market makers.
Skate.
Who are they?
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