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A,B,C, Yes, D No. There was no option to cancel it until the system generated a sell order hours later that wasn't filled. The first thing I tried to do was cancel it in any way possible. I couldn't cancel the 'Falling sell' because it was already triggered, and no sell orders showed up at the time that I looked.

I know what they'll say: you need to drop your limit price down, or your stop loss was too high, and you should have rung us. I'll give them a ring when I can, the problem is sorted anyway.

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Westpac appoints Acting Chief Executive, Consumer

there you go , somewhere to start your questions
 

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As i understand it:
Your stop loss triggered with sp below 2.95, and a sell order at 2.95, per your instructions, was entered.
Not a great way imho to put a sell order as you will shot thru in a falling market with low liquidity..but this is not the issue.
The trouble is: that 2.85 sell order was not visible for a while and so could not be updated manually to a more relevant price.
It will be very hard to prove, let alone get anything from Westpac 😔, unless very happy with the platform, maybe time to move to a better broker?
Haven't had too many issues with my local branch over the years. This was a bit of a pissoff, but all the other the other stop losses have worked, but they fell within range. Still got to deal with the credit fraud I've received just before easter, they were able to block half of the transactions, not sure who's going to pay for the other half yet. 🤬
 
A Few Wise words From Uncle Warren

The Secret Sauce In August 1994

Berkshire completed its seven-year purchase of the 400 million shares of Coca-Cola we now own. The total cost was $1.3 billion – then a very meaningful sum at Berkshire.

The cash dividend we received from Coke in 1994 was $75 million. By 2022, the dividend had increased to $704 million. Growth occurred every year, just as certain as birthdays. All Charlie and I were required to do was cash Coke’s quarterly dividend checks. We expect that those checks are highly likely to grow.

American Express is much the same story. Berkshire’s purchases of Amex were essentially completed in 1995 and, coincidentally, also cost $1.3 billion. Annual dividends received from this investment have grown from $41 million to $302 million. Those checks, too, seem highly likely to increase.

These dividend gains, though pleasing, are far from spectacular. But they bring with the important gains in stock prices. At year end, our Coke investment was valued at $25 billion while Amex was recorded at $22 billion. Each holding now accounts for roughly 5% of Berkshire’s net worth, akin to its weighting long ago.

Assume, for a moment, I had made a similarly-sized investment mistake in the 1990s, one that flat-lined and simply retained its $1.3 billion value in 2022. (An example would be a high-grade 30-year bond.) That disappointing investment would now represent an insignificant 0.3% of Berkshire’s net worth and would be delivering to us an unchanged $80 million or so of annual income.

The lesson for investors: The weeds wither away in significance as the flowers bloom.Over time, it takes just a few winners to work wonders. And, yes, it helps to start early and live into your 90s as well.
 
I'm not sure if there's a general thread to discuss this, so have started this one to share information.

(if there is one please alert me)

I came across Danelfin today through an add on You Tube

Is anyone other than @Skate experimenting with this stuff?


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@Sean K - In my view, the only real limits of AI are the boundaries of our imagination. It’s remarkable what can be created when we think outside the box.

I’ve put together an eBook for family and friends that offers beginners an inside look into the exciting world of trading.

You can check it out here:

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For those who prefer a more conversational overview, I’ve also recorded a fireside chat between two people discussing the content of my eBook:

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Skate.
 
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@Skate aimed this at novices willing to learn and grow

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The Trading PANDA: A Must-Read for Aspiring Traders
Curious about trading but not sure where to start?

The Trading PANDA is your ideal starting point
An essential guide for beginners taking their first steps toward financial independence. It breaks down the fundamentals of trading in a clear, easy-to-follow format - no jargon, no fluff. Whether you want to grow your wealth, build confidence, or simply understand how markets work.

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Remember
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Skate.
have kept a copy on a USB drive , in case i come across a novice ( trader ) willing to learn the ropes , and saved a personal copy just in case i need to do some proper ( deliberate ) trading in the future

the trick currently will be to keep your confidence in fractious markets ( it will be easy to be scared back to the sidelines , when it is really buying time )

thanks

and cheers
 

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Insightful Question
One question I found particularly insightful came from Leigh. I've paraphrased both the question and Marcus Padley's response to make them more fluent and easier to read.

Paraphrased Question (from Leigh)
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Skate.
 
but success doesn’t come from blind luck.
oh yes it can !

but the trap is not to confuse blind luck with skill ( aka , KNOW when you are lucky ) , and know how to deal with that run of luck ... and i don't mean a couple of sessions at the pub buying drinks for your mates .

sure you will have 'bad luck ' but that can be very educational if you study what went wrong , i remember one stock i held was doing OK until they discovered an employee in accounting had a gambling problem , and was 'tickling the accounts ' .. now that didn't kill the company the losses were not fatal , what KILLED the company was the head of the accounting department detected the theft and tolerated it continuation of it , once this came out the big banks providing the finance , quickly called in all the existing loans ... and R.I.P. ( cooked books is a confidence crusher )

and hindsight can be educational as well in 'good luck '

now good luck can come from taking reasonable risks ... take ART ( Aitrasker ) it floated at an optimal time , and i got a good price on the day of the float ... and the public liked the narrative , buoyed by the retail public buying management decided to stoke the narrative by pushing accelerated expansion ( about 3 months after the float ) now buying a small 'bolt-on ' is one thing , but expanding into large international markets ???

well the public bought the new narrative and i bought a parachute for the graceful exit ( from memory about a 25% profit ) yes that looked like trading , but it was a total reaction to the news at hand
 

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now good luck can come from taking reasonable risks

Question (from Graham, the short version)
Can you make money by avoiding risky periods

Marcus Padley's Answer (shortened answer)
Chickens don't make money so if you're going to do everything in a low risk you're going to wait until there's certainty and by the time there's certainty there's no returns.

Skate.
 
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Start your financial journey with a solid plan. Only invest what you can "truly afford" to lose to shield you from your emotions. If you can master your emotions like greed or fear, you will make more rational decisions. It has been said a million times but it's worth repeating, "wealth-building" is a marathon, not a sprint. Avoid impulsive moves by responding thoughtfully to market changes. Don't react but rather respond, responding gives you time to think.

Cut Losses Early to Limit Setbacks
In the beginning, most of us learn this lesson the hard way - by holding on to positions too long and taking unnecessary losses. It often takes both time and financial pain to fully understand the importance of cutting losses early. Get this one fundamental right, and you’ll build a rock-solid foundation for long-term financial success.

Skate.
 


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