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Good afternoon,There is a lack of new ideas when it comes to trading
I understand the frustration some can have when there is a lack of new or original trading ideas presented in some forums. It's even difficult to find fresh perspectives when many traders are relying on the same old strategies & information that has been around for years. But all is not lost. By studying various traders you can learn from their experiences, & you may be able to discover new ideas & fresh perspectives that can help improve your trading performance.
Another approach is to develop your own ideas & strategies
How? by experimenting with different trading techniques & analysing the backtest metrics. By taking a creative & experimental approach to trading, you may be able to discover new insights that can help you stand out from the crowd. While it can be challenging to find new & innovative ideas it doesn't have to stop you from thinking about how you should approach trading, you never know you may be able to uncover new insights that can help you achieve greater success.
Skate.
Good ideas can come from anywhere really, this forum, other forums, media, reading material/video, colleagues, paid professional forum / development course, at the bar ha ha ha ha etc etc etc and yes definitely from what other traders do in this space.By studying various traders you can learn from their experiences, & you may be able to discover new ideas & fresh perspectives that can help improve your trading performance
UpdateNote: Sharkies 30 Warriors 24 - 15 to go
In closing
it's important to understand that trading can be an extremely stressful activity. There's always a level of uncertainty & risk involved, as the market is constantly changing, which can make it difficult to predict what's going to happen next. However, having a well-defined trading strategy can help alleviate some of this stress. When a trader has a clear plan in place, they have a set of rules & guidelines to follow, which can help them make more informed decisions & avoid making impulsive trades based on emotions or gut feelings.
By trading smart, you can live life on your terms (financial freedom is achievable)
Additionally, a trading strategy can provide a sense of structure & control. Instead of feeling like they're at the mercy of the market, traders can feel like they're in charge of their own destiny. This can be a powerful motivator & can help traders stay focused & disciplined. Of course, it's important to note that even with a well-defined trading strategy, there's always going to be some level of stress involved in trading. No strategy is foolproof, & unexpected events can always occur that can throw a wrench in even the best-laid plans. However, having a strategy in place can still be incredibly beneficial in terms of reducing stress & improving overall trading performance.
Skate.
So no need to backtest since the birth of Christ for daily and weekly systems:Your 5 market conditions are: (i) parabolic higher (2020) (ii) higher (2013-2018) (iii) sideways, (iv) down (2022) and (v) parabolic down (2008 early 2020).
Good morningI will also extract a very relevant imho point from Mr Leduc
So no need to backtest since the birth of Christ for daily and weekly systems:
You can get a nice snapshot of market conditions in the last 10y..even 5y and take into account the technological recent changes.
But yes different strategies ideally.
Each with own indicators to switch them on off or reduce increase exposure
And then life comes and the frog needs to empty his accounts and slash his exposure when systems are turning green and full on.
There is a reason we rarely get these millions of BT returns
Indeed very discretionary and if you go for monthly systems, you need a longer timeframe etc etcGood morning
So then, where does one draw a line in the sand as to the extent of back testing, and forward testing (acceptance testing). For mine, appropriate due diligence is applied as to the trader's personal discretion.
Have a prosperous week and good fortune.
Kind regards
rcw1
For mine, appropriate due diligence is applied as to the trader's personal discretion.
A single strategy means that unless you are in that strategies sweet spot, your returns and experience are going to sub-optimal and extremely frustrating. (I know Mr Skate runs a number of different strategies).
Good evening@rcw1 comment highlights an important issue with system trading
The tendency to persist with a strategy even when it is not producing the desired results. There are some traders who pride themselves on suffering great monetary losses while waiting for their convictions to be rewarded which to me is a fool's errand. While it is true that trend-following systems can perform well in a bull market, it is important to recognise that markets are dynamic & subject to change. As such, traders need to be vigilant & constantly monitor their strategies to ensure that they are still effective.
One way to do this is by establishing clear performance metrics
By regularly tracking the strategy's performance over time traders should compare the strategy's returns to relevant market benchmarks, & take note if it consistently underperforms. This can be an indication that the strategy is no longer effective & may need to be modified or abandoned.
Skate.
To price and volume..To get started, you can just pick any indicator and study its behaviour and relationship to price in forensic detail. Until something jumps out at you.
Planned holding period is important and could be dependent on the extent of how dynamic / unseemly the market is behaving.
Very interesting and quite complex stuff. Great judgment conquers all.
To price and volume..
I missed that initially.
In contrast, I want to make reference to a volume-weighted trading system.
If this is of any value: I have a currently running VWMA strategy;Volume-weighted average price (VWAP) trading strategy
The VWAP trading strategy is a powerful tool that can be used to identify potential trading opportunities in a variety of market conditions. I personally trade a version of a VWAP Strategy & so does @qldfrog. Trading using a "Volume-weighted average price" (VWAP) is very effective in the current trading environment & the results aren't too shabby. I trade a much larger amount than the backtest but using a $100k X 10-position strategy allows you to understand the metric just that much easier.
The VWAP trading strategy has become increasingly popular in recent years
Why? for the simple reason it's effective in identifying potential trading opportunities in particularly useful in identifying trends in heavily traded assets, where price movements can be influenced by large institutional traders. When you team it up with a timing filter, results can be amplified.
Backtest period (four years)
While the results of backtesting can provide an indication of the effectiveness of a trading strategy, it's important to keep in mind the generated metrics really tell the story of how effective this strategy performs.
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In summary
Out of 310 exits, only 91 of those were from a last resort trailing stop. When the exit from a trailing stop is low, it indicates (to me) that the other two timed exits are doing their job & all the heavy lifting. The average "Profit Stop" (exit) results in an average of 9.29% profit whereas the "Stale Stop" (exit) limits the loss on average to (-1.23%). Both are pleasing metrics. (AFAIC)
Skate.
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