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kahuna1 said:
NEVER underestimate stupidity .... NEVER ....
Oh and conspiracy is Conspiring .... planning to do something ... and I rarely is EVER talk about things that have NOT already happened .... markets rise 200% on hot air IS not a conspiracy its a reality and same for THEORY .... Theory is a polite way of saying IDIOTIC crap ....
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Something important to remember about the markets

Usually there’s a good explanation to explain the sentiment of the market but we should be wary when the stock market moved for no apparent reason.

If the data is really strong, a decline in the market cannot be justified. When you can’t explain why the market is moving, you should be suspicious of the moves the market makes.

Skate.
 
Skate said:
When you talk

When you talk, you are only repeating what you already know.
But if you listen, you may learn something new.

Skate
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Good quote @Skate :)

Here's one along similar lines I heard this morning:

“Education is something that is done to you. Learning is something you do for yourself."
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(I seem to have sand under my "Q" button on this laptop, I keep typing "uote" instead of "quote" :D )
 
captain black said:
Good quote @Skate :)

Here's one along similar lines I heard this morning:



(I seem to have sand under my "Q" button on this laptop, I keep typing "uote" instead of "quote" :D )
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What a great quote (wish I posted it)
“Education is something that is done to you. Learning is something you do for yourself."

Captain black quote is designed to generate logical thinking by applying sound judgment, it’s hard to conceive of a more serious design flaw than the failure to learn.

Captain black thank you for your quote..

Disclaimer
I have posted many of "Captain black" quotes on the 'Dump it here' thread.

Skate
 
Today I will be with an idiot, so thanks for the advice. It would seem the best I could do is try to get him to learn, rather than educate him.
Thinking more on it though I think it might to better not to try to educate anyone but try to get them to learn for themselves. When they achieve that you may then be able to educate.
 
jbocker said:
Today I will be with an idiot, so thanks for the advice. It would seem the best I could do is try to get him to learn, rather than educate him.
Thinking more on it though I think it might to better not to try to educate anyone but try to get them to learn for themselves. When they achieve that you may then be able to educate.
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jbocker if I may make another general quote

Masturbating in public
"Satisfying your urge to call someone stupid is like masturbating in public. It may feel good to you, but it looks disgusting to everyone else and it just makes the other person work harder to find ways to disagree with you"

Skate.
 
Skate said:
jbocker if I may make another general quote

Masturbating in public
"Satisfying your urge to call someone stupid is like masturbating in public. It may feel good to you, but it looks disgusting to everyone else and it just makes the other person work harder to find ways to disagree with you"

Skate.
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I get that. But I think you got me wrong, I am being serious. I hopefully never name anyone stupid, but seriously I am talking about someone who really could rate as an 'idiot' (using the term in your quote 'educating an idiot') and I no longer argue with him and never called him that and often in the past I would try to educate. It has mostly proven fruitless, From here, I will only encourage him to learn first. It was a timely bit of advice by Captain black which led me to think, and suggest that your quote on educating idiots could be extended to all levels of intelligence.
 
Love the thread,

Great advice, I struggle ... at times against people who are wolves dressed as lambs. Older, wiser, I choose and of late not often to go specific on a stock, you often are talking to PR company or even the CEO ...

I must admit, I blurted recently at someone ... "your an idiot" not a good look on my part, but their view, all be, as I learnt and really took the time to learn WHY they did think that, came from a vested interest company and was presented as factual via the media on a topic ... VAPING and since I struggle with the addiction ... and YEP vape so I don't tear someones head off missing the nicotine which my brain got used to age 14 ,,,, the fact that the cancer causing stuff is INSIDE tobacco and TAR and inhaling smoke with 200 odd impurities ... of which 20 or so cause cancer ... VAPING glycerol with nicotine and in fact, vaping anything is less than perfect ... however smelling cooking is about the same .,,, and it doesn't coat your lungs in tar and NICOTINE is NOT the cancer causing agent in smokes its the smoke and the ground up match heads that keep it alight v going out that are just part of the goodies.

I blurted ... from first hand experience and UK studies on the topic. Whilst VAPING is NEVER advised, as a tool to STOP smoking or MINIMIZE damage and issues with lungs, well ... within a day ,... NO smokers cough ... NO asthma ... NO short of breath ...No stink .... and a lot of other things and for 1% the COST ...

Will it cause long term issues ? well for me and my blurting ... the issue was breathing .... actually BREATHING without a plastic bag over my head to improve it and my looks .... the studies all came out were supposedly scientific and if one take the time to dig, funded by the like of the cigarette companies themselves who wish to produce something that does the SAME ... will be costing the same as smokes and heats up nasty tobacco and you get the good stuff all over again not just the actual drug.

I do know, I was wrong to call the person lecturing me on how stupid I was because VAPING was worse than smoking, but .... if one does not have the nasty cough, your lungs function like when you were 20 despite 30 years of fags, well ... so be it !! Opinion .... YEP .... Scientific .... NOPE .... or partially on the bad stuff in SMOKED tobacco ... unknown the Vaping one and like many things, funding for one is 100 times more than the other. Saying VAPING leads kids to smoking may be true, POT ... which is ... for some about 1/1000 a very bad idea ... its sends them nuts ... even a heavy user, a stoner of you have ever worked with one, or hired one, operates in slow motion as if stoned ... even hours and days after it has passed. Now its legal in 20 plus USA states.

Normally putting something like Valium in the drinking water was used, but to combat people NOT accepting the party line .., they must be sedated .... its NOW legal a drug that 1/1000 users has their mind rewired and becomes permanently injured via paranoid issues or bipolar or worse. ICE the pure form of it, the damage that does, well its 5% messed up forever and the addiction is ... well worse than smoking by a factor of 100. Kicking that one, the masturbating in public above ... comment , if you ever counsel or visit an see a big emergency department they have a padded room with bullet proof glass for them to come down .... a sad common sight is masturbation over and over and over and over again to the point they damage themselves.

VAPING .... geee .... Valium and POT I think maybe not enough .... here have a nice ICE water for that hot day.

Whoops there I bloody go again BLURTING ....
Cheers Mark K.
 
jbocker said:
I get that. But I think you got me wrong, I am being serious. I hopefully never name anyone stupid, but seriously I am talking about someone who really could rate as an 'idiot' (using the term in your quote 'educating an idiot') and I no longer argue with him and never called him that and often in the past I would try to educate. It has mostly proven fruitless, From here, I will only encourage him to learn first. It was a timely bit of advice by Captain black which led me to think, and suggest that your quote on educating idiots could be extended to all levels of intelligence.
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jbocker, my posts are general in nature & it's rare that they are directed at anyone.

Skate.
 
kahuna1 said:
Love the thread,

Great advice, I struggle ... at times against people who are wolves dressed as lambs. Older, wiser, I choose and of late not often to go specific on a stock, you often are talking to PR company or even the CEO ...

I must admit, I blurted recently at someone ... "your an idiot" not a good look on my part, but their view, all be, as I learnt and really took the time to learn WHY they did think that, came from a vested interest company and was presented as factual via the media on a topic ... VAPING and since I struggle with the addiction ... and YEP vape so I don't tear someones head off missing the nicotine which my brain got used to age 14 ,,,, the fact that the cancer causing stuff is INSIDE tobacco and TAR and inhaling smoke with 200 odd impurities ... of which 20 or so cause cancer ... VAPING glycerol with nicotine and in fact, vaping anything is less than perfect ... however smelling cooking is about the same .,,, and it doesn't coat your lungs in tar and NICOTINE is NOT the cancer causing agent in smokes its the smoke and the ground up match heads that keep it alight v going out that are just part of the goodies.

I blurted ... from first hand experience and UK studies on the topic. Whilst VAPING is NEVER advised, as a tool to STOP smoking or MINIMIZE damage and issues with lungs, well ... within a day ,... NO smokers cough ... NO asthma ... NO short of breath ...No stink .... and a lot of other things and for 1% the COST ...

Will it cause long term issues ? well for me and my blurting ... the issue was breathing .... actually BREATHING without a plastic bag over my head to improve it and my looks .... the studies all came out were supposedly scientific and if one take the time to dig, funded by the like of the cigarette companies themselves who wish to produce something that does the SAME ... will be costing the same as smokes and heats up nasty tobacco and you get the good stuff all over again not just the actual drug.

I do know, I was wrong to call the person lecturing me on how stupid I was because VAPING was worse than smoking, but .... if one does not have the nasty cough, your lungs function like when you were 20 despite 30 years of fags, well ... so be it !! Opinion .... YEP .... Scientific .... NOPE .... or partially on the bad stuff in SMOKED tobacco ... unknown the Vaping one and like many things, funding for one is 100 times more than the other. Saying VAPING leads kids to smoking may be true, POT ... which is ... for some about 1/1000 a very bad idea ... its sends them nuts ... even a heavy user, a stoner of you have ever worked with one, or hired one, operates in slow motion as if stoned ... even hours and days after it has passed. Now its legal in 20 plus USA states.

Normally putting something like Valium in the drinking water was used, but to combat people NOT accepting the party line .., they must be sedated .... its NOW legal a drug that 1/1000 users has their mind rewired and becomes permanently injured via paranoid issues or bipolar or worse. ICE the pure form of it, the damage that does, well its 5% messed up forever and the addiction is ... well worse than smoking by a factor of 100. Kicking that one, the masturbating in public above ... comment , if you ever counsel or visit an see a big emergency department they have a padded room with bullet proof glass for them to come down .... a sad common sight is masturbation over and over and over and over again to the point they damage themselves.

VAPING .... geee .... Valium and POT I think maybe not enough .... here have a nice ICE water for that hot day.

Whoops there I bloody go again BLURTING ....
Cheers Mark K.
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Hi Mark, if at any time you want to express an opinion or have something to say, I encourage you to 'Dump it here'

Learning from others
The more you read and learn from others the better prepared you will be. I hope you'll enjoy posting in this thread as it appears you have plenty to say that others find interesting.

Ideas
The 'Dump it here' thread is about ideas - not a contest of ideas.

Right or wrong
Whether your right or wrong isn't important - whats more important is that this thread gives you the ability to express your views without being ridiculed or challenged.

Thank you Mark for expressing yours.

Skate.
 
ducati916 said:
The soundness of a conclusion, may, not infrequently, be tested by its consequences.

jog on
duc
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Tested by its consequences
ducati916 quoted that "The soundness of a conclusion, may, not infrequently, be tested by its consequences" (I like it)

Conclusion
When faced with a complex or difficult decision, people often simplify their task by applying an abbreviated rule set to help problem‐solve and make the decision. A simple approach produces a good enough result most times but sometimes it can lead to significant errors and inconsistencies in our judgments.

Range of possibilities
Simply jumping to a conclusion without bothering to assess the full range of possibilities is an inbuilt weakness we all suffer.

Tested by its consequences
“As the saying goes, if what you learn leads to knowledge, you become a fool, but if what you learn leads to action, you can become wealthy”

Skate.
 
barney said:
And the longer the arrogance has been manifest … the bigger the fall!

Interestingly enough however …. The arrogant one will likely be the last to admit the fall, if ever … and likely blame someone else anywayo_O:rolleyes:
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barney, you are spot on - "The arrogant one will likely be the last to admit the fall, if ever … and likely blame someone else anyway"

Winners & Losers
Winners take responsibility. Losers place blame.

Skate.
 

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