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Dump it Here

Looks like Santa is only dishing out Pain and Fear to punters following the ASX this Xmas
One wonders, if those who decried the missed opportunity last time, will avail themselves of it this time?
Or just wait to demean those, who do take the opportunity, as happened every other time.:rolleyes:
As Skate says, the market is driven by emotion, the trick is controlling yours.
 
One wonders, if those who decried the missed opportunity last time, will avail themselves of it this time?
Or just wait to demean those, who do take the opportunity, as happened every other time.:rolleyes:

@sptrawler most wimpy traders are locked & loaded waiting for the tide to change, itching to get back in (well I am)

Skate.
 
Wimps
@sptrawler I'm a wimp when it comes to trading - I’ll go so far as to claim that a smart wimp who runs and hides when the going gets tough generally produces better results than brave souls who are proud of their ability to suffer great monetary pains while they wait for their convictions to be rewarded.

Being macho
The problem with the “macho” approach to the markets is that the consequences of being wrong are so onerous. The stronger your convictions and beliefs, the more invested and braver you are, and the greater the chance for a backbreaking loss. The wimpy investor knows that the key to success is staying in the game for the very long term.

Skate.
 
Once the herd starts running, it is hard to change its direction, I personally feel this has a way to go yet.

@sptrawler I'm with you - traders are very moody at the moment..

Being a wimp I use a lot of protection

Traders who are wimps will use a variety of tools for their protection - I'll list some of those tools:
1. An Index Filter
2. A Turnover Filter
3. A Volume Filter
4. A ROC Strength Filter (ROC = Rate Of Change)
5. A Price Filter
6. A Trend Filter
7. A variable trailing stop
8. A momentum ROC stale stop Filter

I use all of them..

Skate.
 
I must get started on researching trading, I have been a lazy buy and hold, with a big chunk of cash as a backstop.
Time to get off my ar$e and do some study, thanks for all the info Skate, it gives me somewhere to start.
Do you need a special comsec account, to run a trailing stop, or is the facility available on all accounts?
 
I must get started on researching trading, I have been a lazy buy and hold, with a big chunk of cash as a backstop.
Time to get off my ar$e and do some study, thanks for all the info Skate, it gives me somewhere to start.
Do you need a special comsec account, to run a trailing stop, or is the facility available on all accounts?

@sptrawler trailing stops are normally coded into a trading strategy

A standard CommSec account allows you to "Place Conditional Orders"

Two examples of a conditional order
1. 'Trades at or Below' for Falling Sell and Falling Buy
2. 'Trades at or Above' for Rising Sells and Rising Buys

Skate.
 
@sptrawler trailing stops are normally coded into a trading strategy

A standard CommSec account allows you to "Place Conditional Orders"

Two examples of a conditional order
1. 'Trades at or Below' for Falling Sell and Falling Buy
2. 'Trades at or Above' for Rising Sells and Rising Buys

Skate.
Unless information is released pre market and **** hits the fan #Vocus got me good
 
Unless information is released pre market and **** hits the fan #Vocus got me good

@mcgrath111 someone out there will always know more than you or I - perhaps that might account for why a stock move the way it does.

Even after you’ve learnt how to trade successfully, you will still take your hits - that's the trading game.

Skate.
 
When I was 18, the Army seemed like the quickest way to earn a what to me was a “high wage”, from which I could save and get the compounding started.

I wouldn’t say I was a “genius” in my teens, but I was having a go and learning as I went along, if anything I did could be considered genius, it was simply that I relised early the benefits of spending less that you earn, and I understood compound growth.

This is pure gold...

@Value Collector remarked there are benefits of spending less that you earn !

Great advice..

Skate
 
What I’ve learned about the concept of compounding money!

I learned the power of reasonable returns, time, and compounding of money can lead to extreme wealth.
I have applied these principles in the management of our net worth.
Reasonable Returns + Time + Compounding of Money = Extreme Wealth.

Pretty simple formula but not especially easy to do!

Skate.
 
Compound Interest

“Money makes money. And the money that money makes, makes more money.” –Ben Franklin

The power of compound interest is that your money will make more money without you having to do anything, your money keeps earning more and more money all on its own.

Skate.
 
What I’ve learned about the concept of compounding money!

I learned the power of reasonable returns, time, and compounding of money can lead to extreme wealth.
I have applied these principles in the management of our net worth.
Reasonable Returns + Time + Compounding of Money = Extreme Wealth.

Pretty simple formula but not especially easy to do!

Skate.
Yep, this short video shows exactly how much a difference starting early can make.

 
Unless information is released pre market and **** hits the fan #Vocus got me good

@mcgrath111 I feel your pain...

Big Loss
This is what a big loss looks like for me (a picture paints 1,000 words) 41.83% of my investment gone in two weeks
ZZ Big Loss Capture.JPG

Big Win
This is what a big win looks like for me (a picture paints 1,000 words) a gain of 41.83% on my investment - it took 44 weeks (meaning the enjoyment lasted 44 weeks)

ZZ Big win Capture.JPG


Skate.
 
@mcgrath111 I feel your pain...

Big Loss
This is what a big loss looks like for me (a picture paints 1,000 words) 41.83% of my investment gone in two weeks

Big Win
This is what a big win looks like for me (a picture paints 1,000 words) a gain of 41.83% on my investment - it took 44 weeks (meaning the enjoyment lasted 44 weeks)

Skate.
Know when to hold em.
Know when to sell them.
Know when to ignore the broker reports.
 
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