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Know one I know is that weak!
Know one I know is that weak!
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Know one I know is that weak!
Very sloppy and could become innaccurate unless proven before a legal jurisdiction. Trumps misconducts were alledged to have occurred well before his current celebrity status. The first orime allegation and pushed by the Clintons was later withdrawn and said to have been fabricatedd by tge accuser herself. In fact at the time of the alledged misconduct were in different parts of the country. The false news brigade are taking in most in thier stride. As I've said I'm no Trump fan but we need to try for the real playing field.I did explain the comparision (in my eyes) early on.
1) Both used their celebrity status to abuse/harass women they worked with or had any dealings with.
2) Both had form with not just one or two people but many people
3) Most significantly. Both flatly denied they had done anything wrong . Donald Trump called all his accusers (15 plus women on the record) liars. Don Burke wasn't quite so inflammatory but stilll was exceptionally deliberate in saying he had never made the alleged comments.
If you go back to the Susie O'Neill story you'll see that Don Burke was absolutely resolute and very convincing in his denial that he had ever made the "Is your xunt as big as that flower " comment. Years down the track when it turns out the two camera men also heard the comment and backed up Susie he still insists he never said it. In my eyes that sort of denial is very Trumpish
I do not for a moment condone either of them. They are disgraceful. My ipads stuffed so cannot get the arguments across. But this use of the word "Trump" to describe things can be a distortion. A bit like "surreal" in the place of "unreal" its destroyed the meaning of the word.Explod, Donald Trump has always been a celebrity ! He was one of the biggest names in New York in the 80's. I also understand you will find if you check out the allegations that there were witnesses to at least a number of them. Certainly many of the people had spoken to friends or collegaues directly after the event.
Not to worry.
For another view of Don Burke there is a Good Weekend story that was published in 1991. Very intriguing to hear this genius polymath tell everyone else with great confidence just how good he (Don) was in their field. Worth the read IMO
Don Burke: They love him, they love him not
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TV gardening celebrity Don Burke was controversial way back in 1991, when Richard Glover wrote this assessment for Good Weekend.
Obsessive, perfectionist, arrogant, self-reliant, conceited, brilliant, egotistical. When you set out to profile a gardening expert, the last thing you expect is passion, controversy, hatred and admiration - all so strongly brewed. Yet this is Don Burke. His television program is now the fifth most popular in the country; his second book the fastest seller in Australian publishing history. For a gardening man, his success is unusual, heightened, extreme. And so is the language people use to describe him.
In more than 50 interviews for this article with colleagues, former classmates and friends, Don Burke is never described as normal. And never is he described as the sort of character who appears on our television sets - that relaxed, laid-back, cheerful fellow with the twinkling dark eyes and engaging smile.
Some talk of this skill before the camera, his photographic memory, his driving desire to provide the best possible show. Others report a darker side, offering their nickname for him as a kind of jokey summary: they call him the Antichrist.
One former colleague refuses for a time to talk to Good Weekend. The reason, says a friend, is the person "is too cut up, too destroyed by the experience of working there, to be able to talk about it quite yet".
Even Burke himself does not claim to be laid-back. During a day spent with him, his self-descriptions include "intelligent", "persistent ", "perfectionist" and "driven".
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/goo...ve-him-they-love-him-not-20171129-gzuxsv.html
When the balloon goes up ... everyone wants a view..
There is further explict fallout on the way Don Burke routinely behaved with any women with a pulse. It is interesting to note that his production crew had to continuely warn women off, intervene and then calm things down when women and their partners were outraged by his behaviour.
It now seems that Channel 9 is going to take a bath for allowing this behaviour to continue.
In their own words: Women speak up against Don Burke
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After interviewing more than 50 former employees or associates of gardening guru Don Burke, a major joint investigation by Fairfax Media and the ABC on Monday revealed a far darker side to the well-known celebrity.
Multiple women alleged that the Burke's Backyard star had sexually harassed, bullied and, in some cases, indecently assaulted them.
Since then there has been an avalanche of further allegations about the former Channel Nine star.
Fairfax Media has received hundreds of emails and calls from former colleagues, members of the public and celebrities who appeared on his show. They have painted a portrait of a rapacious, vile and cruel narcissist who "viewed women as there for the taking".
But one thing stands out above anything else. How did he get away with it for so long?
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/ent...eak-up-against-don-burke-20171201-gzx4eq.html
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/ent...he-nine-network-millions-20171129-gzv46s.html
"Burke was "two people", explained a former male crew member. There was the genial gardening guru on camera who was "very, very good at what he did". But off camera the real Burke was described by many of those interviewed as a psychopathic narcissist.
"He was an absolute sexual predator. He was a bully. He was horrible to people in the office. He would often have women in tears. He used to take great delight in it. It was like sport to him," said the former male crew member."
It must be hard being the social conscience and chief apologist for Australia![]()
Yes. But change your gender first. Double your chancesWell getting away from a guy calling a girl some pretty awful things.
I came to Australia as an eight year old kid and my brother, who was two years older developed psoriasis, we were bashed for being Poms and bashed because my brother was a leper and we were called some horrific things. We recieved the "royal flush", were dacked, were beaten on a regular basis.
Who should I complain to?
Can I get compensation, have I got a claim for racial vilification because I wasn't Australian and can we receive welfare for post traumatic stress?
even better get confused as to your gender ,your chances are not growing exponentiallyYes. But change your gender first. Double your chances![]()
Well getting away from a guy calling a girl some pretty awful things.
I came to Australia as an eight year old kid and my brother, who was two years older developed psoriasis, we were bashed for being Poms and bashed because my brother was a leper and we were called some horrific things. We recieved the "royal flush", were dacked, were beaten on a regular basis.
Who should I complain to?
Can I get compensation, have I got a claim for racial vilification because I wasn't Australian and can we receive welfare for post traumatic stress?
even better get confused as to your gender ,your chances are not growing exponentially
And exactly what have the last few comments have to do with high functioning TV show sociopaths terrorising women ?
How much money did you make out of being a diickhead?
That sleazy f*ucker made a shiit load of money because the public viewed him as a nice guy and the "genial gardener".
Now he is using the excuse he has (undiagnosed) aspergers syndrome.
The guy deserves everything he gets.
Well, it all seems to have blown over now.
Any charges laid ?
Any of Nine's management walked the plank ?
Things seem to be back to normal. I wonder who has learned what lessons ?
If he was such an a**hole to everyone it's a wonder no one took him out the back and beat the cr*p out of him.
This issue has really opened a can of worms, can't wait to see the fall out results, in 10 years.
If I'm still here.
My guess, it will make producers select talent on ability, it will make generous pay offers go out the window and make "film star wages drop".
Which has to be a good thing, all round.
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