Does Gillard inspire confidence?

sails · 19 June 2012

Re: Gillard on Q&A

Eager said:
Julia, there is a greater majority on ASF, which is surely a comforter to those bent that way.

Still, just enjoy living here!!!!!!!!!

Or nominate which country you (or any complainer) would prefer to live in.

Rubbish, Eager. Have you not seen opinion polls over the last few months...lol

Latest galaxy - 80% are unhappy with Gillard's boat arrivals. That would surely be more than at ASF

You really do flame other posters. Shame really as ASF used to have some sensible discussions than the absolute nonsense posts you are dishing out. I've been away for a couple of days and can't believe the lack of content in so many posts - mainly yours.

Miss Hale · 19 June 2012

Re: Gillard on Q&A

IFocus said:
Oh you mean the Liberal party infomercial

Pure out right vomit

Rating better than Insiders though.

wayneL · 19 June 2012

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Eager said:
I will give you the benefit of the doubt and accept yopur apology because I see you made your post late at night and you might have been influenced by other factors, who knows.

Straight out of the Fabian playbook... smear and innuendo.

Eager · 19 June 2012

Re: Gillard on Q&A

sails said:
You really do flame other posters. Shame really as ASF used to have some sensible discussions than the absolute nonsense posts you are dishing out. I've been away for a couple of days and can't believe the lack of content in so many posts - mainly yours.

It is blatantly obvious that sometimes I upset some of the membership here simply because I have an opinion different to theirs.

I made some posts last night in a different thread that included a credible link but I was then accused of being selective. I then did my level best to expand on my original stance, which was that the mining and associated industry isn't the dominating factor in our economy (and it ISN'T), but was then met with hysterical remarks about shutting the whole industry down, and that certain parties want to do that anyway. I asked for a link to prove that claim, but surprise surprise, none has been forthcoming. From very early on in my time here it was obvious that any explanation or proof of fact to support the Left or to argue against the Right was labelled as spin, yet every skerrick of Right opinion was swallowed as gospel. And so on.

ASF IS dominated by coalition voters (and I have no problems with that), and it seems TO ME that it would be over 90%. That makes it more 'Right' than the general population and I have absolutely no doubt that the core of senior coalition voting members here take comfort in that fact - they are amongst friends, and can say what they want regardless.

I remember being given a complement once because I was challenging the ingrained thoughts of the majority here. All I can say is that I haven't changed, but for some reason the bitterness and intolerance of some members has grown. Are you guys interested in debate on issues or not????????????

Eager · 19 June 2012

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wayneL said:
Straight out of the Fabian playbook... smear and innuendo.

Oh, come on!

I was accused of never backing up what I said, yet shortly beforehand Julia replied to me in another thread....about a link I provided to back up my position on an issue!

wayneL · 19 June 2012

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OK, debate issues then.

Leave the BS out and that will likely be reciprocated.

qldfrog · 19 June 2012

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Eager said:
ASF IS dominated by coalition voters (and I have no problems with that), and it seems TO ME that it would be over 90%. That makes it more 'Right' than the general population and I have absolutely no doubt that the core of senior coalition voting members here take comfort in that fact - they are amongst friends, and can say what they want regardless.

Allow me to see it in a different way, I for one is not a coalition fan, hate Abbott and his pettiness, am liberal at heart (liberal in the US/strict term, not LP way) and am more green than red so not a coalition supporter by birth
yet as many here, I have some economic background, have a business or work in private enterprise and am taxed to the death. I can see a country quickly turning the wrong way after never ending inept not to say suicidal policies and management mess up at the federal level.
What do you expect?Truth can not be blindfolded
And any true labor supporter with a bit of economy/real world knowledge should be the same
So yes ASF will have a majority of anti Gillard as this is not a corner pub forum.
The day our prime minister will be truly elected and will take sensible decision, be he/she right or left wing , then ASF will have a more balanced opinion but as I see this, this is not for tomorrow
my 20c only

sptrawler · 19 June 2012

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Eager said:
It is blatantly obvious that sometimes I upset some of the membership here simply because I have an opinion different to theirs.

I made some posts last night in a different thread that included a credible link but I was then accused of being selective. I then did my level best to expand on my original stance, which was that the mining and associated industry isn't the dominating factor in our economy (and it ISN'T), but was then met with hysterical remarks about shutting the whole industry down, and that certain parties want to do that anyway. I asked for a link to prove that claim, but surprise surprise, none has been forthcoming. From very early on in my time here it was obvious that any explanation or proof of fact to support the Left or to argue against the Right was labelled as spin, yet every skerrick of Right opinion was swallowed as gospel. And so on.

ASF IS dominated by coalition voters (and I have no problems with that), and it seems TO ME that it would be over 90%. That makes it more 'Right' than the general population and I have absolutely no doubt that the core of senior coalition voting members here take comfort in that fact - they are amongst friends, and can say what they want regardless.

I remember being given a complement once because I was challenging the ingrained thoughts of the majority here. All I can say is that I haven't changed, but for some reason the bitterness and intolerance of some members has grown. Are you guys interested in debate on issues or not????????????

Absolutely, I love your childlike belief that the labor party will look after you, I had the same belief 30yrs ago.
But lets have some ground rules, we won't say anything that can't be substantiated.O.K

Julia · 19 June 2012

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Eager said:
Was merely pointing out that there is a difference between right, Right, and righteous. There is plenty of evidence on ASF of righteosness from those that lean Right. Obviously, some are oblivious to it and cannot see any difference in those 3 terms anyway.

Explod started a thread called "Gobbledegook". I'd suggest that's a good place for the above comment.

That's not fair - you know damn well that I am one of the minority who actually provide links to back up many of my claims. Many of your cohorts simply don't, and you know it.

You can supply all the links you like. But if you selectively quote from them, and then follow with your own remarks which totally lack objectivity, you can expect to be either challenged or ignored.

I will give you the benefit of the doubt and accept yopur apology because I see you made your post late at night and you might have been influenced by other factors, who knows.

Accept my apology???? First it would have had to be offered. I can assure you there's no way it will be.
What rubbish. As is the remainder of that paragraph.
I rarely use the Ignore function, but you've just earned yourself a level of my disgust that will provoke such use.
Disappointing, Eager, as I have from time to time gone out on a limb to defend your right to make the comments you have, to the anger of some members here. Clearly, that was poor judgment on my part.

sails said:
Rubbish, Eager. Have you not seen opinion polls over the last few months...lol

Latest galaxy - 80% are unhappy with Gillard's boat arrivals. That would surely be more than at ASF

You really do flame other posters. Shame really as ASF used to have some sensible discussions than the absolute nonsense posts you are dishing out.

Yes, you were a member before me, Sails. Clearly you can remember that some years ago we were able to have interesting and thoughtful discussions which did not revert to personal insult and innuendo.
It is not surprising that most of the participants in those discussions have long since departed this forum.

Eager said:
Oh, come on!

I was accused of never backing up what I said, yet shortly beforehand Julia replied to me in another thread....about a link I provided to back up my position on an issue!

What I responded to was your pathetic selective quoting. I responded with the full paragraph from your link which supplied a quite different picture from that you attempted to present.

sails · 19 June 2012

Re: Gillard on Q&A

Eager said:
It is blatantly obvious that sometimes I upset some of the membership here simply because I have an opinion different to theirs.

I made some posts last night in a different thread that included a credible link but I was then accused of being selective. I then did my level best to expand on my original stance, which was that the mining and associated industry isn't the dominating factor in our economy (and it ISN'T), but was then met with hysterical remarks about shutting the whole industry down, and that certain parties want to do that anyway. I asked for a link to prove that claim, but surprise surprise, none has been forthcoming. From very early on in my time here it was obvious that any explanation or proof of fact to support the Left or to argue against the Right was labelled as spin, yet every skerrick of Right opinion was swallowed as gospel. And so on.

ASF IS dominated by coalition voters (and I have no problems with that), and it seems TO ME that it would be over 90%. That makes it more 'Right' than the general population and I have absolutely no doubt that the core of senior coalition voting members here take comfort in that fact - they are amongst friends, and can say what they want regardless.

I remember being given a complement once because I was challenging the ingrained thoughts of the majority here. All I can say is that I haven't changed, but for some reason the bitterness and intolerance of some members has grown. Are you guys interested in debate on issues or not????????????

Eager, does it ever occur to you that your posting style seems to be designed to inflame those who may hold differing opinions to yourself?

You seem hell bent on stirring. Your opinion is your right, but there is no need to be so rude to those with whom you do not agree...

Calliope · 19 June 2012

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Julia said:
Disappointing, Eager, as I have from time to time gone out on a limb to defend your right to make the comments you have, to the anger of some members here. Clearly, that was poor judgment on my part.

Yes I was one you accused of being nasty to poor little Eager. It was good judgment on my part.

joea · 21 June 2012

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joea said:
Yeah I have been talking to the Coalition.
That print with "she is gone" on the bottom will be on sale to the general public.
At this point in time we think we can take 15% off the deficit in the first year from sales.
Of course there will be international sales as well.
joea:bananasmi

orders for 2 million have come in after her visit overseas.
joea:wreath

Eager · 22 June 2012

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sails said:
Eager, does it ever occur to you that your posting style seems to be designed to inflame those who may hold differing opinions to yourself?

That is exactly why I often find myself feeling frustrated here!

My posts are not really like that at all, rather they are taken that way by the majority because the opinions contained in them differ to theirs and they are uncomfortable with that!

Also, condescending remarks such as the one Calliope made the other day about me punching above my weight are always met with tacit approval by the majority, but if I was to reply in kind.....well, you know the rest. But it doesn't really matter, this is just an internet forum, and not important at all.

Calliope · 22 June 2012

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Eager said:
Also, condescending remarks such as the one Calliope made the other day about me punching above my weight are always met with tacit approval by the majority, but if I was to reply in kind.....well, you know the rest. But it doesn't really matter, this is just an internet forum, and not important at all.

Good for you Eager. You are starting to show a bit of maturity at last.

Logique · 23 June 2012

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Eager said:
...remarks such as the one Calliope made the other day about me punching above my weight are always met with tacit approval by the majority, but if I was to reply in kind.....well, you know the rest. But it doesn't really matter, this is just an internet forum, and not important at all.

Hey Eager, don't take it all to heart. There are plenty of valued posters in ASF whose politics are from the 'other side'. They keep it to an exchange of ideas and views, they give respect and receive it in return.

drsmith · 25 June 2012

Julia Gillard's 2-year anniversary as PM

Where was someone from the Labor side to start this thread ?

sptrawler · 25 June 2012

Re: Julia Gillard's 2-year anniversary as PM

Two years of kissing Bob Brown's butt. Congratulations yeh sit on that. OOPs that didn't come out as expected, appologies to the thumb.

drsmith · 25 June 2012

Re: Julia Gillard's 2-year anniversary as PM

I won't mention the latest polls.

This is a party for Labor supporters.

noco · 25 June 2012

Re: Julia Gillard's 2-year anniversary as PM

drsmith said:
I won't mention the latest polls.

This is a party for Labor supporters.

Do you think she will see a 3rd Doc?

drsmith · 25 June 2012

Re: Julia Gillard's 2-year anniversary as PM

noco said:
Do you think she will see a 3rd Doc?

No comment.

I'd be spoiling the party if I answered that.

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