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I was following the same line of thought drsmith, I just thought IFocus had dropped the ball. LOL
OK.
I'll explain it in a little more detail.
The tax cuts during the 3 budgets of the Rudd government originated from Peter Costello as part of the 2007 election campaign. Labor adopted them as part of their "me too" campaign strategy to get elected in 2007.
If those tax cuts were stupid as Coalition policy, they were equally stupid as Labor policy.
Gillard is a bit like Billy McMahon.
A joke.
And she has her Sonia, First Bloke.
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OK.
I'll explain it in a little more detail.
The tax cuts during the 3 budgets of the Rudd government originated from Peter Costello as part of the 2007 election campaign. Labor adopted them as part of their "me too" campaign strategy to get elected in 2007.
If those tax cuts were stupid as Coalition policy, they were equally stupid as Labor policy.
You not being partisan ?Yes agree that's what I said or at least meant wasn't trying to be partisan about the issue.
Tax cuts which Labor endorsed to get into power. Add grossly wasteful and mismanaged spending programs and that maks tax cuts (or reform) even harder.Howard / Costello's ridiculous middle class welfare give always will be a major if not the major barrier to any further possible tax cuts. You cannot have both IMHO
The media smell the death of the Gillard government.Look at the liars going on now from a minor adjustment not just from Abbottliar but backed right across the media.
Both Michael Costa and Peter Costello maintain Gillard is politically dead. My prediction is she won't be spending Xmas 2011 in the Lodge.
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...dget-thumbs-down/story-e6freooo-1226056451806
Tax cuts which Labor endorsed to get into power. Add grossly wasteful and mismanaged spending programs and that maks tax cuts (or reform) even harder.
What are Labor's grossly wasteful and mismanaged spending programs doing for underlying structural issues within the federal budget ?DR you know as well as me that deficits come and go but its the structural issues within the federal budget that is the killer.
During the last election Julia was telling everyone how disgraceful fly in fly out was and how it was breaking down Australian family structures.
Also how much pollution is created with the planes ferrying people in and out constantly.
How long will it be before a major incident happens.
Obviously the rhetoric was to get the fly in fly outs to vote for them also the voters in disadvantaged remote areas thinking that Julia was going to improve their situation.
Don't forget these remote country towns that now have more people living in, fly in fly out accomodation than permanent housing.
The local councils are going broke because they don't get rates to reflect the population therefore the towns infrastructure falls into disrepair.
No the election is over, lets move on, its only some poxy town in W.A or Queensland anyway, why worry?
New conversation probably goes like this.
How is the mining tax going Wayne, I had a great idea last night when Tim and I were out for dinner and all we need is more money. Tourism Australia can run tours through the mining ghost towns, for the Chinese that own them.
Why can't we go back to the previous norm of if there is a town near the resource the company must use it.
The companies say "we can't get workers to move there". So the government says o.k use fly in fly out.
Then the government say they are going to get tough on the unemployed who won't move to where the work is.
JEEZ Someone is talking crap somewhere.
Actualy todster, Ravensthorpe is re opening and Galaxy lithium is starting up.
But getting back to the original theme if B.H.P had supplied the housing at Ravensthorpe and Hopetoun there wouldn't have been a problem for the workers. Also there would be some infrastructure that they supplied rather than the taxpayer.
If B.H.P had to upgrade Ravensthorpe and Hopetouns sewage, electricity and supply housing they may have costed the mine on a more sustainable model.
Rather than saying it's a capital outlay of x for the mine and concentrate plant and if we can write off the cost who gives a rats
Can't actually think of any mining town i have worked in the last 20years that i would want to live in.
Quite happy FIFO thanks.
This being a stockforum one would imagine shareholders chasing a better profit rather than building towns aswell as mines
I have some friends who own "hotels" in mining towns.
Charge $120 per night for a room with basic facilities and have all rooms booked all the time (one of the hotels has 50 rooms)
Sounds to me like the mining companies have not done their sums, and should build portable townships, instead of paying millions per year for overpriced "hotels"'
I'm sure that the taxpayer would benefit from this.
What I am getting at todster is they say there will be 50,000 people working in the Pilbara within 20 years. That is a lot of planes and polution, if the mines want the workers they should be supplying housing and infrastucture to develop the area. It is much healtheir for people to work reasonable hours and come home to a family every day.I did a 2 week job in Port Hedland a while back and they had to fly me back to Perth for one night as they had no room for me,flew back the next morning.
$120 a night in the Pilbara be lucky to get a caravan
Who wants to live 7-8 months a year in 40 degree + temperature,QLD might be different but WA most mines are miles from anywhere.
Most young guys with families are taking the cheap rent getting ahead and talking moving on.
Not long ago the iron ore spot price was $165/T putting it on the ship for $15 not hard to figure.
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