prawn_86
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I'm not so sure about that McLovin...Perhaps "you cannot feed the current diet to the world on organic free range food at the same price..." would be more accurate.
CanOz
Fair point. But most of the GM foods I read about are designed to help grow crops in harsh environments etc.
You can't feed the world on organic, free range food.
I would argue that butter is tampered with. It is after all altered milk...
What about cooking? That alters the structure of the proteins in food before we eat it, is that not manipulating 'food'? In fact one could say that cooking meat changes it from food to an ingredient if our previous quote was to be used...
What do you define as chemical manipulation? Is putting nitrogen (that has been used by the trees that should be there in the first place read farmed) back into the soil via fertiliser considered manipulation?
I posted a link to this story last week on another thread. I heard it reported on ABC Radio today.
How an anti-GM activist learned the science of high-yield crops and became a campaigner for GM
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...cally-modified-crops/articleshow/18041185.cms
I dont trust the multinational companies these days, they would sell their own grandmother down the drain for a dollar.
Your health ? that's the least of their concerns, they all all pwerful and buy polititians like you buy chewing gum.
Just watch your back and dont take everything at face value.
If you give up sugar alone you'll lose weight without doing anything else.
The biggest consumers of sugar in the world are Coke, Pepsi and Cadbury Schweppes
Just ban Bourbon and Scotch.lol
I'm always blown away when I read this stat. Why is there so much waste. I rarely throw anything out.Saw an interesting study recently showing that half the Worlds food goes to waste. That is a combination of general household food waste, use by date laws, consumer fussiness, transport, and farm wastage from having production all come online at once.
If we could improve this figure it would go a long way to feeding more people, or feeding the current amount better
I'm pretty sure you've promoted this myth before. Just think about it, Burnsie: if you ate no sugar at all, but rather consumed great amounts of starchy carbohydrates (think pasta, fried chips, heaps of butter and oil with all of it) I can assure you that you'd still gain weight unless you were extremely physically active.If you give up sugar alone you'll lose weight without doing anything else.
I'm pretty sure you've promoted this myth before. Just think about it, Burnsie: if you ate no sugar at all, but rather consumed great amounts of starchy carbohydrates (think pasta, fried chips, heaps of butter and oil with all of it) I can assure you that you'd still gain weight unless you were extremely physically active.
Just not true to suggest the absence of any one food component will mean weight will not be gained.
I also very rarely throw anything out, and if I do it's because there's something wrong with it.Surely it shouldn't be beyond the capacity of most people to plan what they need to buy?
I'm always blown away when I read this stat. Why is there so much waste. I rarely throw anything out.
Surely it shouldn't be beyond the capacity of most people to plan what they need to buy?
I also very rarely throw anything out, and if I do it's because there's something wrong with it.
Things are very different overall however. There is some waste in production and processing. Shops throw huge amounts of food away - not sure exactly how much but I know that it's significant. Likewise many restaurants etc too.
Then there's consumers, some of whom seem to believe that a "use by date" means literally that. Most people would know that there's nothing likely to be wrong with a bag of chips (for example) that's a month out of date but there are people who would actually throw it away. With few exceptions (milk comes to mind), those dates are a very broad indication at best and should be treated as such.
I'm not so sure about that McLovin...Perhaps "you cannot feed the current diet to the world on organic free range food at the same price..." would be more accurate.
CanOz
Part of it is as Smurf says, but the vast majority of waste occurs either on the farm or on the way to the shop. For one, farmers will generally only pick the best part of their crops, leaving some waste for those marked, blemished etc. This then happens again in the packing shed. Then there will be spoilage during transport also.
Another big issue is the fact that crops all come online at once causing a glut, meaning a lot of product is simply left and not sold as the prices have dropped below cost of production/harvesting. I have seen hundreds of tonnes of grapes and oranges simply picked onto the ground as prices were too low, and that was just in one tiny country town i lived in. In fact i even toyed with the idea of starting a charity to take advantage of this, but between food regulation laws and trying to convince transport companies to move it for free it has so far fallen in the too hard basket, hopefully some other time i will have more money to devote to it.
very noble ideas, prawn, and I sincerely commend you for your plans.
... and then: what?
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Saw an interesting study recently showing that half the Worlds food goes to waste. That is a combination of general household food waste, use by date laws, consumer fussiness, transport, and farm wastage from having production all come online at once.
If we could improve this figure it would go a long way to feeding more people, or feeding the current amount better
If you have ever bought stone fruit at Coles I am sure you will not do it again. So they must throw most of it out. The one exception is the Tasmanian cherries, they are brilliant.
At the fruit shop I support, the stone fruit and the mangoes are excellent and cheap this year.
Yeah but watch people start complaining when shelves are bare in the interest of reducing waste. People want choice. In a free market, if you turn up at the local fruit and veg place and are told "sorry, we're out of apples, come back tomorrow" you'll go elsewhere.
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