Defending Brett Kavanaugh

[luutzu]

Did you ever stop to ask yourself why she waited 35 years to make these allegations ?

If there were witnesses their minds would have fresh at the time it happened and the chances of conviction would be much higher.

It appears to be a grandstanding exercise.

She made it after all these years because it took the douche all these years to climb this high. Like she said, she saw it as her "civic duty" to come forward. She also knew too that what she said wouldn't matter either way because the politicians and the press already have him as their preferred douche on the bench.

As to allegation she made privately... she have told friends over the years. She told her therapist a few years ago, went to marriage counselling.

There are evidence, people who corroborate. So it's not a total lie, mistaken identity, or some partisan mud slinging. Heck, she passes the polygraph test. She invited the FBI to interview her, talk to people.

Did Kavanaugh do any of that? Did he invite the FBI to investigate? Did he talk to them? Do a polygraph?

Just by watching a few clips of his responses to the Senate Judiciary Committee and you can tell he's a lying prick.

But ey, he was "a little too emotional", he said to the WSJ.

That's like Reuters saying he allegedly "exposes himself" to the other lady. Yah, taking your penis out, whack it on a drunken lady's face without her consent is "exposing" yourself.

America is fast becoming a Third World banana republic in more ways than one.

This Kavanaugh shietshow is just the latest example of the decay.

 

[SirRumpole]

She made it after all these years because it took the douche all these years to climb this high.

You don't get to the Supreme Court unless you have been a junior judge for a number of years, so there he was sitting on cases maybe including rape and potentially making biased judgements in favour of defendants. The "civic duty" should have cut in years ago.

Anyway I don't really care about him personally I just don't like people held responsible forever for making gooses of themselves as teenagers when we all know that that period is high on risk taking and low on judgement.

Anyway they are racing again at Bathurst so bye for now.

 

[dutchie]

Trump is draining the Swamp.

 

[Tink]

 

[wayneL]

You are such a cheap, nasty little toe rag Wayne. Dr Ford brought up the incident with Judge Kavanaugh to give the Senate important knowledge of the person they were going to appoint as Supreme Court Justice for life.

No one was going to take this to a court case. Ever.
She had never intended to take this to the police for all the obvious reasons so far demonstrated

She deserves admiration and respect for the guts she showed to stand and say what happened to her.
The Trump sock puppet that is Brett Kavanaugh will still be regarded as a casual liar for the way he denied his behaviour as a drunken teenager. But that is the Trump way isn't it ?

1. Once again you reach straight for the name calling bas. As I am none of those descriptors, it just made me have a giggle at your expense.

2. Of course it was never going to court for the reasons I outlined. Can you not read? The amusing thing is the msm inference that it could do, in order to perpetuate the left's infected narrative.

3. (also for orher grasshoppers) If you do not realise Ford's political affiliation and activism... If you cannot (or more likely refuse to) see, in conjunction with the other laughable accusations, the poisonous agenda here, then you cannot be helped.

Due process, evidence, integrity... You should acquaint yourself of these foundations of our system ans why they are in place to avoid the Stalinism you appear to desire.

 

[luutzu]

You don't get to the Supreme Court unless you have been a junior judge for a number of years, so there he was sitting on cases maybe including rape and potentially making biased judgements in favour of defendants. The "civic duty" should have cut in years ago.

Anyway I don't really care about him personally I just don't like people held responsible forever for making gooses of themselves as teenagers when we all know that that period is high on risk taking and low on judgement.

Anyway they are racing again at Bathurst so bye for now.

Maybe she didn't follow his career until it hit the headlines. How many of us heard of this guy until he was nominated to the Supreme Court?

Anyway, people have their reasons for keeping silent or coming out. They shouldn't be blamed or condemned for that decision.

What's more important is whether what they alleged are true or not.

Here we have at least two credible victim of sexual assault but the people who designed the investigation and its scope is the same group who wanted to find the accused innocent anyway.

Until now, I didn't know that that's even possible in a democracy. Heck, I thought that once the FBI is called in, they take over the investigation and follow the facts.

Here, they follow the scope set for them. Big surprise then that they came back with inconclusive or whatever because no one but the Senator themselves get to read the report.

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Attempted rape is not "making gooses" of themselves. It's a serious crime.

Plenty of people goes to prison on much lesser "crime"... like carrying weed, not having a few hundreds in time to pay for bail, looking at a cop funny while being black, brown or foreign.

 

[moXJO]

She made it after all these years because it took the douche all these years to climb this high. Like she said, she saw it as her "civic duty" to come forward. She also knew too that what she said wouldn't matter either way because the politicians and the press already have him as their preferred douche on the bench.

As to allegation she made privately... she have told friends over the years. She told her therapist a few years ago, went to marriage counselling.

There are evidence, people who corroborate. So it's not a total lie, mistaken identity, or some partisan mud slinging. Heck, she passes the polygraph test. She invited the FBI to interview her, talk to people.

Did Kavanaugh do any of that? Did he invite the FBI to investigate? Did he talk to them? Do a polygraph?

Just by watching a few clips of his responses to the Senate Judiciary Committee and you can tell he's a lying prick.

But ey, he was "a little too emotional", he said to the WSJ.

That's like Reuters saying he allegedly "exposes himself" to the other lady. Yah, taking your penis out, whack it on a drunken lady's face without her consent is "exposing" yourself.

America is fast becoming a Third World banana republic in more ways than one.

This Kavanaugh shietshow is just the latest example of the decay.

Ford did not mention Kavanaugh by name in the therapists notes. Her husband "heard" his name mentioned... Yeah right.

No corroboration or straight denials from any of her witnesses.

Her story changed.

Her ex boyfriend of 6 years said she coached her friend to take a polygraph test for the fbi.
Also that she didn't have a fear of flying and never mentioned being assaulted.
If this is looked into, it might prove she committed perjury.
Not a peep out of her family except to say she threw a sick friend under the bus.

Not a scrap of evidence.
Here is gops prosecutors report because I noticed fake news before.

https://www.scribd.com/embeds/389821761/content#from_embed

Here are some of Mitchell’s bullet points on Ford’s failed testimony:

• Ford has not offered a consistent account of when the alleged assault happened
• Ford has struggled to identify Judge Kavanaugh as the assailant by name.
  When speaking with her husband, Dr. Ford changed her description of the incident to become less specific.
• Ford has no memory of key details of the night in question—details that could help corroborate her account.
• Ford’s account of the alleged assault has not been corroborated by anyone she identified as having attended—including her lifelong friend.
• Ford has not offered a consistent account of the alleged assault.
  Her account of who was at the party has been inconsistent
• Ford has struggled to recall important recent events relating to her allegations, and her testimony regarding recent events raises further questions about her memory.
• Ford refused to provide any of her therapy notes to the Committee.
• Ford’s explanation of why she disclosed her allegations the way she did raises questions.
• Ford’s description of the psychological impact of the event raises questions.
  The activities of congressional Democrats and Dr. Ford’s attorneys likely affected Dr. Ford’s account.

The other accusations are even less credible.

He may well have been a sht person, but hang him on evidence.

The reason why this whole mess started is that he is a conservative and will vote against progressives laws.


This was a hit job and played out as expected.

Its opened up the midterms now though. I was 100% sure dems would take the win. Now I'm 50/50 on the whole thing.

 

[IFocus]

Due process prevails over political hit jobs and baying mobs with no evidence.

It is a good day today.

It's not a due process its a political one hence the mess.

Was it a good when the Republicans failed to follow your "due process" and delayed Obama's pick?

 

[luutzu]

1. Once again you reach straight for the name calling bas. As I am none of those descriptors, it just made me have a giggle at your expense.

2. Of course it was never going to court for the reasons I outlined. Can you not read? The amusing thing is the msm inference that it could do, in order to perpetuate the left's infected narrative.

3. (also for orher grasshoppers) If you do not realise Ford's political affiliation and activism... If you cannot (or more likely refuse to) see, in conjunction with the other laughable accusations, the poisonous agenda here, then you cannot be helped.

Due process, evidence, integrity... You should acquaint yourself of these foundations of our system ans why they are in place to avoid the Stalinism you appear to desire.

Just heard again that turtle Mitch McConnell calling protesters confronting their representatives a collapse into "mob rule". And I am guessing he and his friends put up a strong fight for freedom or some shiet.

Know who else refer to the plebs and their democracy "mob rule"? Hitler.

What are Dr Ford's political affiliation? She's not a Republican so she must be a Democrats? She wrote a few papers on the morning after drug and Kavo will overturn women's reproductive rights so that will eat into her income from more papers about it?

Due process, evidence, presumed innocence. Yeah, let's have some of that.

Designing the scope of the investigation. Sending a list of who to interview. Giving a deadline. Not permitting the interviewing of the accused and the accuser. Not returning calls or replying to witnesses who reach out to confirm what the accusers have alleged.

Sure, "due process". Nothing to see.

Good luck with anyone else ever coming forward, sacrificing their own privacy or freedom to fight for justice and fairness.

You know what other places you cannot accuse or speak ill of the elite? Try Vietnam or China.
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As to this committee not being a court blah blah... So it's a job interview right?

An impartial bunch of wise elders working on behalf of the people would appoint a person like Kavanaugh to a lifetime position on the highest "third branch" of government when he clearly lie under oath; obviously partisan; have at least two credible accuser.

You'd joke about these kind of appointment if the CEO appoint his idiot son to senior management. But this is supposed to be a democracy and all that justice stuff right?

 

[SirRumpole]

Should they (we) have elected judges ?

Would it be a better system ?

Lifetime appointments seems pretty cr@p too.

 

[bellenuit]

You don't think that people can change over time ?

Yes, but discarding completely the veracity of the allegations, his response at the hearings should have been sufficient grounds not to appoint him. His temperament and partisanship indicated that he was completely unsuited to the job.

 

[luutzu]

Ford did not mention Kavanaugh by name in the therapists notes. Her husband "heard" his name mentioned... Yeah right.

No corroboration or straight denials from any of her witnesses.

Her story changed.

Her ex boyfriend of 6 years said she coached her friend to take a polygraph test for the fbi.
Also that she didn't have a fear of flying and never mentioned being assaulted.
If this is looked into, it might prove she committed perjury.
Not a peep out of her family except to say she threw a sick friend under the bus.

Not a scrap of evidence.
Here is gops prosecutors report because I noticed fake news before.

https://www.scribd.com/embeds/389821761/content#from_embed

The other accusations are even less credible.

He may well have been a sht person, but hang him on evidence.

The reason why this whole mess started is that he is a conservative and will vote against progressives laws.


This was a hit job and played out as expected.

Its opened up the midterms now though. I was 100% sure dems would take the win. Now I'm 50/50 on the whole thing.

Kavanaugh was mentioned by name in Dr Ford's therapist's notes.

To say it's not is just a Trumpian kind of spin. Like the one he gave at rallies. If you watch independent news and the testimony, you can clearly see the bs.

 

[SirRumpole]

His temperament and partisanship indicated that he was completely unsuited to the job.

Yes, very true.

 

[luutzu]

Ford did not mention Kavanaugh by name in the therapists notes. Her husband "heard" his name mentioned... Yeah right.

No corroboration or straight denials from any of her witnesses.

Her story changed.

Her ex boyfriend of 6 years said she coached her friend to take a polygraph test for the fbi.
Also that she didn't have a fear of flying and never mentioned being assaulted.
If this is looked into, it might prove she committed perjury.
Not a peep out of her family except to say she threw a sick friend under the bus.

Not a scrap of evidence.
Here is gops prosecutors report because I noticed fake news before.

https://www.scribd.com/embeds/389821761/content#from_embed

The other accusations are even less credible.

He may well have been a sht person, but hang him on evidence.

The reason why this whole mess started is that he is a conservative and will vote against progressives laws.
This was a hit job and played out as expected.

Its opened up the midterms now though. I was 100% sure dems would take the win. Now I'm 50/50 on the whole thing.

How did she "coached" her ex-bf on the polygraph? Using mind control because she's a psychologist?

How do you supposed to look at evidence when you do not permit investigators to gather them?

In cases such as these, what kind of evidence are you hoping to see? Video tape of the incident? Or a confession by the other guy alleged to also be in the room?

Anyway, holding these political theatre to some standard of fairness is asking to be disappointed.

 

[moXJO]

Kavanaugh was mentioned by name in Dr Ford's therapist's notes.

To say it's not is just a Trumpian kind of spin. Like the one he gave at rallies. If you watch independent news and the testimony, you can clearly see the bs.

Link

 

[SirRumpole]

How did she "coached" her ex-bf on the polygraph? Using mind control because she's a psychologist?

Polygraphs are unreliable that's why they are not used in court.

If you can reduce your stress levels by actually believing a lie then you will pass a polygraph.

Not saying that's what happened, but it's possible.

 

[luutzu]

Polygraphs are unreliable that's why they are not used in court.

If you can reduce your stress levels by actually believing a lie then you will pass a polygraph.

Not saying that's what happened, but it's possible.

I know it's very possible to beat a polygraph test. But it's also possible that you can't.

That's why choir boy virgin who likes "beer" there refuse to take the polygraph or invite the FBI to investigate his innocence.

 

[luutzu]

Link

You got google and the internet right? Australia have yet to implement net non-neutrality.

 

[moXJO]

How did she "coached" her ex-bf on the polygraph? Using mind control because she's a psychologist?

How do you supposed to look at evidence when you do not permit investigators to gather them?

In cases such as these, what kind of evidence are you hoping to see? Video tape of the incident? Or a confession by the other guy alleged to also be in the room?

Anyway, holding these political theatre to some standard of fairness is asking to be disappointed.

Its not that hard to pass lie detector tests once trained.
Thats why they are not used as undeniable proof.

Even if you're not trained you can throw the results easily. One of the easiest was put a tack in your shoe.
The harder methods invole re-imaging the question to suit the answer.

Proof
Who drove her.
One witness that can verify that there even was a party.
Surely she would have told someone prior.

 

[luutzu]

Its not that hard to pass lie detector tests once trained.
Thats why they are not used as undeniable proof.

Even if you're not trained you can throw the results easily. One of the easiest was put a tack in your shoe.
The harder methods invole re-imaging the question to suit the answer.

Proof
Who drove her.
One witness that can verify that there even was a party.
Surely she would have told someone prior.

Of the two parties, one invited the FBI to investigate, the other mmms, ahhsss... nah, go screw yourself Senators.

One passed the polygraph, the other didn't take it because it help prove his innocence to not take one.

One's a known drunk, high profile lawyer and political operative who clearly bs when questioned mildly by democrats pretending to be tough on him.

But sure, it's he said she said.

Kavanaugh's own diary had him circled in parties with the very people Dr Ford named was at the party.

But alright, he's a choir boy who likes beer. But only likes it after he work his butt off at school, and after a few sessions at the gym. All work and no play makes Brett an elite self-entitled azzhole instead of a normal everyday kid who likes average, everyday beer and weekend get together with friends.