Daniel Kertcher/Trading Pursuits - Serious or Scam?

[saroq]

Re: Daniel Kertcher/Platinum Pursuits - Serious or Scam?

Point taken fty129 but whether my re-posting of sinners posts contained information that was 10 years old or not isn't really relevant. DK operates in a section of the business community that although not illegal is unethical. As you pointed out were are the 100s of successful traders from his system?

I wanted to make sure that the information in sinners posts didn't get lost in the replies from DK sock puppets. People purchasing these types of education products do so because they believe they will teach them to make a substantial amount of money with relative ease. It's a naive belief or hope but that's what DK's preying on and this type of business practice needs to be exposed.

wayneL summed it up well "While the strategy is valid, the representation that consistent income can be safely made is not. Ergo, though not the most heinous scam in the world, DK misrepresents the reality of trading this strategy."

 

[zac]

Re: Daniel Kertcher/Platinum Pursuits - Serious or Scam?

It'd be naive of anyone to think that the strategy is what makes them successful whether its through a book or really expensive course.
It never has been the case they make you the money and it never will be.

It'd be like saying everyone that goes to the gym ends up fit and the epitome of health and fitness.

 

[prawn_86]

Re: Daniel Kertcher/Platinum Pursuits - Serious or Scam?

I agree wholeheartedly with Wayne.

Also regarding ASIC this is an article pretty much summing up my opinions also, they are a toothless tiger. Just because ASIC havent acted doesnt mean that all is good

http://www.theage.com.au/business/watchdog-flags-its-fatal-weakness-no-teeth-20130325-2gonq.html

 

[sinner]

Re: Daniel Kertcher/Platinum Pursuits - Serious or Scam?

Recently I recieved a message from Joe indicating that the below comment and specifically my statement at the end has been flagged by Daniel Kertchers lawyers as "it is a highly prejudicial statement and is plainly false, misleading, deceptive and/or inaccurate and is devoid of any attempt to substantiate it by reference to objective facts."

For the purpose of clarification (since Joe informs me he can't edit my original post - and neither can I), I would like to note that the statement is only my opinion, formed after reading the quoted and linked articles provided by ConsumerOrgNZ and the NZ Herald. I am not sure why those posts do not constitute "any attempt to substantiate it by reference to objective facts" but I am not a lawyer.

I will be heading to the US next week for work with a major client, when I return I promise a significant attempt to substantiate my "highly prejudicial statement" with reference to objective facts. It appears Daniel Kertcher reads this thread, so I'd just like to let Daniel know that he should definitely keep watching this space

Anyone got an archive copy of this article?

http://www.jenman.com.au/news_item.php?id=153


also referenced here

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/personal-finance/news/article.cfm?c_id=12&objectid=228205


or this one from 2004

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=3551109

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I think it is extremely apparent that Daniel Kertcher is a very successful, long time con artist.

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[notting]

Re: Daniel Kertcher/Platinum Pursuits - Serious or Scam?

Who are the lawyers? Kermit and Bullwinkle?
What they are claiming damages from a forum thread whilst insisting that the thread stay live?
Yeah right.
Ponzi Persuits should sue their own lawyers if they could claim any damages, which they can't!

 

[prawn_86]

Re: Daniel Kertcher/Platinum Pursuits - Serious or Scam?

This just goes to show the lengths people go to and what ASF constantly faces and Joe has to deal with. Obviously it is important to remember this when posting to ensure that what you say is legit.

 

[notting]

Re: Daniel Kertcher/Platinum Pursuits - Serious or Scam?

This just goes to show the lengths people go to and what ASF constantly faces and Joe has to deal with. Obviously it is important to remember this when posting to ensure that what you say is legit.

You just need a disclaimer that the ASF is not responisible for any of the 'opinions' posted on the thread and if you recieve a genuine legal request to remove what may be defamatory, then at that point ASF becomes responsible for doing that within a reasonable amount of time!
Keep the facts coming about these wankers.

 

[sinner]

Re: Daniel Kertcher/Platinum Pursuits - Serious or Scam?

Personally, I thought a publication from consumer.org.nz listing Platinum Pursuits/Daniel Kertcher as a scam was enough to "legit"imise my comment. I am still unsure how it isn't. I am pretty sure I will recieve no clarification from either Daniel or his lawyers! He could easily come on here and deny that he was involved in the "dodgy Gold Coast apartment deals" in which ConsumerOrgNZ alleges his "clients" lost significant sums of money.

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

Re: Daniel Kertcher/Platinum Pursuits - Serious or Scam?

Recently I recieved a message from Joe indicating that the below comment and specifically my statement at the end has been flagged by Daniel Kertchers lawyers as "it is a highly prejudicial statement and is plainly false, misleading, deceptive and/or inaccurate and is devoid of any attempt to substantiate it by reference to objective facts."

For the purpose of clarification (since Joe informs me he can't edit my original post - and neither can I), I would like to note that the statement is only my opinion, formed after reading the quoted and linked articles provided by ConsumerOrgNZ and the NZ Herald. I am not sure why those posts do not constitute "any attempt to substantiate it by reference to objective facts" but I am not a lawyer.

I will be heading to the US next week for work with a major client, when I return I promise a significant attempt to substantiate my "highly prejudicial statement" with reference to objective facts. It appears Daniel Kertcher reads this thread, so I'd just like to let Daniel know that he should definitely keep watching this space

It is always distressing when lawyers threaten, and particularly so, when one has not got the assets to defend oneself, particularly when a search for the truth is undertaken.

It is important to note that letters from solicitors can be written for as cheap as $300, which is chickenfeed for many professionals who feel their reputation is being damaged.

This $300 in the past has been money well spent in shutting down a conversation or quest for the truth. Nowadays though it rarely is. It often causes media with deeper pockets to take note and investigate the profligate spender of the $300.

It is important to state where there is no proof , that the statement or action is "alleged ", if it has been.

If a decision of a court or tribunal has been made about a person's business, a link should be provided.

This is not legal advice, just my opinion.

gg

 

[skc]

Re: Daniel Kertcher/Platinum Pursuits - Serious or Scam?

Recently I recieved a message from Joe indicating that the below comment and specifically my statement at the end has been flagged by Daniel Kertchers lawyers as "it is a highly prejudicial statement and is plainly false, misleading, deceptive and/or inaccurate and is devoid of any attempt to substantiate it by reference to objective facts."

Lol. If Daniel's lawyers believe that the NZ Herald or NZ Consumer Institue are not "objective facts", then go write those companies a solicitor letter and see what happens. What are they trying to achieve by writing a letter to someone who link to them?!

I think it is extremely apparent that Daniel Kertcher is a very successful, long time con artist. I am almost tempted to post a link to this thread on 4chan just to see what Anonymous would do about it. Mr Kertcher, I suggest you take your sock puppets and leave this forum for good, lest my temptation grow further.

It's difficult to know which part of the statement they think is false, misleading, deceptive and/or inaccurate. May be the lawyers are referring to the term "successful" or "artist". Or may be Daniel doesn't have any sock puppets. Hard to know...

 

[saroq]

Re: Daniel Kertcher/Platinum Pursuits - Serious or Scam?

Daniel, Daniel, Daniel. It would have been smarter for you to let this thread die a natural death but now you've got people's backs up. Watch this space I suspect more is coming your way.

 

[saroq]

Re: Daniel Kertcher/Platinum Pursuits - Serious or Scam?

Hi Daniel,

Some more reading for everyone http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2004/s1048152.htm

 

[danon]

Re: Daniel Kertcher/Platinum Pursuits - Serious or Scam?

I recently completed the Platinum Pursuits Tradeability Income course presented by Daniel Kertcher...

Thanks Matteo for your review, It definitely helped with my decision. -Danon

 

[Magda]

Re: Daniel Kertcher/Platinum Pursuits - Serious or Scam?

Hi, I am Magda.

I have just joined ASF and have so far made only one comment.

I find this forum fascinating but I first want to read all the posts on most of the various threads before I make another comment.

From what I have seen so far there appear to be some people here who make absolute fools of themselves.

I don't want to be one of them and that is why I first want to read previous comments before I say another word.

 

[saroq]

Re: Daniel Kertcher/Platinum Pursuits - Serious or Scam?

You probably should have resisted the urge to post your comment until you had something relevant to add to the topic being discussed. Otherwise you run the risk of being perceived to be exactly what you say you don't want to be.

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

Re: Daniel Kertcher/Platinum Pursuits - Serious or Scam?

It is always distressing when lawyers threaten, and particularly so, when one has not got the assets to defend oneself, particularly when a search for the truth is undertaken.

It is important to note that letters from solicitors can be written for as cheap as $300, which is chickenfeed for many professionals who feel their reputation is being damaged.

This $300 in the past has been money well spent in shutting down a conversation or quest for the truth. Nowadays though it rarely is. It often causes media with deeper pockets to take note and investigate the profligate spender of the $300.

It is important to state where there is no proof , that the statement or action is "alleged ", if it has been.

If a decision of a court or tribunal has been made about a person's business, a link should be provided.

This is not legal advice, just my opinion.

gg

Lol. If Daniel's lawyers believe that the NZ Herald or NZ Consumer Institue are not "objective facts", then go write those companies a solicitor letter and see what happens. What are they trying to achieve by writing a letter to someone who link to them?!



It's difficult to know which part of the statement they think is false, misleading, deceptive and/or inaccurate. May be the lawyers are referring to the term "successful" or "artist". Or may be Daniel doesn't have any sock puppets. Hard to know...

Hi Daniel,

Some more reading for everyone http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2004/s1048152.htm

Hi, I am Magda.

I have just joined ASF and have so far made only one comment.

I find this forum fascinating but I first want to read all the posts on most of the various threads before I make another comment.

From what I have seen so far there appear to be some people here who make absolute fools of themselves.

I don't want to be one of them and that is why I first want to read previous comments before I say another word.

And what word would that be Magda?

Your thoughts are running ahead of your comments though I wait with bated breath for your next post.

Shakespeare has a suitable quote.

“The fool doth think he is wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a fool.”

For those who attend Daniel Kertcher's Seminars who may not be familiar with William Shakespeare, he was the English speaking world's greatest dramatist, and captured the inner self of everyman, complete with foibles, greed, preying hawkers of easy wealth, poverty, happiness and sadness, and regret over unwise decisions.

Well worth a read Magda.

gg

 

[saroq]

Re: Daniel Kertcher/Platinum Pursuits - Serious or Scam?

Recently I recieved a message from Joe indicating that the below comment and specifically my statement at the end has been flagged by Daniel Kertchers lawyers as "it is a highly prejudicial statement and is plainly false, misleading, deceptive and/or inaccurate and is devoid of any attempt to substantiate it by reference to objective facts."

For the purpose of clarification (since Joe informs me he can't edit my original post - and neither can I), I would like to note that the statement is only my opinion, formed after reading the quoted and linked articles provided by ConsumerOrgNZ and the NZ Herald. I am not sure why those posts do not constitute "any attempt to substantiate it by reference to objective facts" but I am not a lawyer.

I will be heading to the US next week for work with a major client, when I return I promise a significant attempt to substantiate my "highly prejudicial statement" with reference to objective facts. It appears Daniel Kertcher reads this thread, so I'd just like to let Daniel know that he should definitely keep watching this space

Hi Sinner This story made me think of your post. Maybe you should send the same type of letter to Daniel's lawyers. http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/201..._n_3200748.html?1367503010&amp#es_share_ended And if the link I'm pasting isn't published do a search for
Irate Passenger Returns Rolled Up Refund Rejection Letter To Train Company With Explicit Instructions

 

[saroq]

Re: Daniel Kertcher/Platinum Pursuits - Serious or Scam?

For anyone still considering purchasing Daniel Kertcher’s options course, even after reading Matteo’s comprehensive post, please check out these links that have been provided by contributors to this forum.

http://www.jenman.com.au/news_item.php?id=153

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/personal-f...bjectid=228205

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/n...jectid=3551109

http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2004/s1048152.htm

 

[danon]

Re: Daniel Kertcher/Platinum Pursuits - Serious or Scam?

Hi, I am Magda.

I have just joined ASF and have so far made only one comment.

I find this forum fascinating but I first want to read all the posts on most of the various threads before I make another comment.

From what I have seen so far there appear to be some people here who make absolute fools of themselves.

I don't want to be one of them and that is why I first want to read previous comments before I say another word.

I understand what you mean, I joined hoping to get some valid info's but really have no time reading someones rant. I notice reading comments here that there are plenty of angry people around specially the active posters but I keep a very low profile just in case they turn against me...

 

[saroq]

Re: Daniel Kertcher/Platinum Pursuits - Serious or Scam?

I understand what you mean, I joined hoping to get some valid info's but really have no time reading someones rant. I notice reading comments here that there are plenty of angry people around specially the active posters but I keep a very low profile just in case they turn against me...

Why don't you and Magda start a new topic rather than posting comments that are not relevant to this topic? Or is this an attempt to side track the discussion away from the revealing posts about the suspect worth of DK's Platinum Pursuits course? Please if you have something relevant to add to this topic post it but otherwise start a new topic and post your comments there. This will help people like yourself get valid info about the topic rather than having to read rants.