Covid seems to always be considered guilty until proven innocent, whereas the covid vaccines, are always considered innocent until proven guilty.
What an enlightened approach to health care!!
It is difficult not to notice the haste with which deaths, and hospitalisations, are declared as covid caused, whereas the hospitalisations, or deaths, of the recently vaccinated are somehow seen as coincidental, until such time as causation can be conclusively demonstrated.If that is a response to my post, it is as inane as almost everything else you post.
There was no claim that Covid caused the side effects, nor any claim that the vaccine didn't cause them. Just a question as to who determined that the vaccine was the cause, as was asserted by Grah's friend. An enlightened approach to health care is to establish facts before making assertions or if assertions are made, to qualify them.
It is difficult not to notice the haste with which deaths, and hospitalisations, are declared as covid caused, whereas the hospitalisations, or deaths, of the recently vaccinated are somehow seen as coincidental, until such time as causation can be conclusively demonstrated.
As @Belli points out, health care has nothing to do with how some people take delight in misinterpreting information and liking conspiracies.Covid seems to always be considered guilty until proven innocent, whereas the covid vaccines, are always considered innocent until proven guilty.
What an enlightened approach to health care!!
As @Belli points out, health care has nothing to do with how some people take delight in misinterpreting information and liking conspiracies.
The average person recognises that a disease is rarely beneficial, whereas vaccinations have been proven to reduce illness and death rates for over two centuries. Perhaps one day you might develop an enlightened approach to posting so that ignorance does not rule.
I absolutely agree.I agree, but for the small number of people who have serious or fatal side effects there should be some sort of compensation scheme as in other countries, since the government is virtually mandating getting a vaccine if you want to keep your job or go about your daily business without restriction.
FTSE compensation (and the burden of proof required to demonstrate entitlement)!!I agree, but for the small number of people who have serious or fatal side effects there should be some sort of compensation scheme as in other countries, since the government is virtually mandating getting a vaccine if you want to keep your job or go about your daily business without restriction.
Simply let people make their own decisions, about which medicines they want, and leave them to accept the consequences of their choice.
Like the flu?Well sometimes other people have to accept the consequences of foolish decisions, like family members who get the disease passed on by other family members.
I presume that you're suggesting that one's personal decision, as to whether or not to partake of medical treatment, can sometimes be deemed as foolishly endangering others.Well sometimes other people have to accept the consequences of foolish decisions, like family members who get the disease passed on by other family members.
Where has the common flu gone?Well sometimes other people have to accept the consequences of foolish decisions, like family members who get the disease passed on by other family members.
The proof is that family members across the world have spread covid amongst themselves, leading to to serious illness and occasional death. How is a personal decision that can do this be regarded as "sensible" when a reasonable alternative is available?I presume that you're suggesting that one's personal decision, as to whether or not to partake of medical treatment, can sometimes be deemed as foolishly endangering others.
You clearly don't understand what efficacy means!If so, given the topic of this thread, I would have to conclude that you don't actually believe in the efficacy of these covid vaccines!
Like the flu?
If so, given the topic of this thread, I would have to conclude that you don't actually believe in the efficacy of these covid vaccines!
This gentleman is forthright in his views on that issue - amongst others matters.
Please stop blaming me for your personal shortcomings.The proof is that family members across the world have spread covid amongst themselves, leading to to serious illness and occasional death. How is a personal decision that can do this be regarded as "sensible" when a reasonable alternative is available?
You clearly don't understand what efficacy means!
Of the people that I know that have had Covid, none have had any severe symptoms at all. And as mentioned before,there is some chance that my wife and I may have even have had it (it seems that it is impossible to test for that here in WA however).Depends on whether one is considered as having a worse outcome compared with the other.
"For most people, the flu resolves on its own. But sometimes, influenza and its complications can be deadly."
"Common signs and symptoms that linger over time include:
- Fatigue
- Shortness of breath or difficulty breathing
- Cough
- Joint pain
- Chest pain
- Memory, concentration or sleep problems
- Muscle pain or headache
- Fast or pounding heartbeat
- Loss of smell or taste
- Depression or anxiety
- Fever
- Dizziness when you stand
- Worsened symptoms after physical or mental activities.
Organ damage caused by COVID-19
Although COVID-19 is seen as a disease that primarily affects the lungs, it can also damage many other organs, including the heart, kidneys and the brain. Organ damage may lead to health complications that linger after COVID-19 illness. In some people, lasting health effects may include long-term breathing problems, heart complications, chronic kidney impairment, stroke and Guillain-Barre syndrome — a condition that causes temporary paralysis.
Some adults and children experience multisystem inflammatory syndrome after they have had COVID-19. In this condition, some organs and tissues become severely inflamed."
Long COVID questions and answers
COVID-19 can have lasting symptoms that affect many parts of the body. Learn more about the symptoms and effects of long COVID.www.mayoclinic.org
Of the people that I know that have had Covid, none have had any severe symptoms at all.
Anecdotal of course but it seems that the most sensible categorisation of covid is as a medium flu.
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