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sptrawler said:
That is what grudgingly made me decide on the AZ, after much reading and listening I'm still not convinced on the Phizer, it sounds great, it sounds ground breaking, it sounds new.
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mRNA technology is about 30 years new. Took quite a bit of research and effort to get it to its current stage.
 
sptrawler said:
That is what grudgingly made me decide on the AZ, after much reading and listening I'm still not convinced on the Phizer, it sounds great, it sounds ground breaking, it sounds new.
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As posted by @Belli, the effectiveness of mRNA vaccines was first proven over 30 years ago.
Some people think its a form of gene therapy, but it is definitely not.
An issue with mRNA vaccines is how the spike proteins affect other than their target such that severe adverse reactions occur.
The mRNA package - a lipid nanoparticle - is broken down by the cell after it has been used, so the RNA from the vaccine does not persist in cells. For this reason it is likely that we now know about as much as we could in regard to the range of adverse reactions.

The conspiracy theorists remain armed with opinion and disinformation, when not otherwise understanding efforts in place for the common weal.
 
Which kind of sums up why I decided on AZ.
With the amount of people getting the mRNA vaccine ATM, there should be a wealth of knowledge learnt, in the next year or two.
No doubt it will replace Viral Vector vaccines, in the near future.

The History of the mRNA Vaccines

No one woke up on a morning in December and decided that an mRNA vaccine was the way to go without any prior knowledge of the science and technology of mRNA vaccines. That knowledge goes back decades, and there have been many people working on this technology with many companies and governments...
historyofvaccines.blog

Understanding Viral Vector COVID-19 Vaccines

Learn more about viral vector vaccines, a type of vaccine likely to be approved for use for COVID-19 that work differently from the initially approved mRNA vaccines.
www.cdc.gov
 
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Maybe Dan Andrews let the cat out of the bag today, when he said we have a 7 day lockdown, or if it gets away, we have a lockdown until we are vaccinated.
Maybe that was meant to be until we are 70% vaccinated?
 
Belli said:
I am happy to report I had the second dose of AZ yesterday morning. No issues whatsoever including no sore arm. So best of @sptrawler and hope you get the same outcome.
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Ours are on 12 Oct, hopefully we can travel by then, just received a $1200 travel voucher from Jetstar, for the flight we are meant to catch in 3 hours.
Ffing magic they run an airline on taking cash for a flight and giving you a best of luck 18 month voucher, when you cant travel.
Maybe there is a business opportunity there for someone with a Cesna, sell flights and then give gift vouchers back to people.lol
That is the main reason I got vaccinated, Qantas are pushing for vaccine passports, sure as $hit if I dont get vaccinated, I may as well perforate that voucher and put it on the toilet roll.lol
 

Alarm as US Covid cases above 100,000 a day for first time since February​

  • Seven-day hospital admissions average up 40% from last week
  • Mississippi health official says Delta surging ‘like a tsunami’
Healthcare workers at a vaccination event in Florida. About half of all new infections and hospitalizations in the past week were in seven southern states. Photograph: Chandan Khanna/AFP/Getty Images

Amanda Holpuch in New York and agencies

@holpuch
Sat 7 Aug 2021 05.08 AEST
First published on Sat 7 Aug 2021 02.46 AEST


Daily Covid-19 cases in the US moved above 100,000 a day for the first time since February, higher than the levels of last summer when vaccines were not available, and came as health officials sounded alarm over lagging rates of vaccination driving the surge of the infectious Delta variant.

The seven-day average of hospital admissions has also increased more than 40% from the week before, with health workers describing frustration and exhaustion as hospitals in Covid hotspots were again overwhelmed with patients, almost 20 months into the pandemic in the US.


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“As we look at our hospitalizations and as we look at our deaths, they are overwhelmingly unvaccinated people,” CDC director Rochelle Walensky said at a briefing on Thursday.

Alarm as US Covid cases above 100,000 a day for first time since February

Seven-day hospital admissions average up 40% from week before as Mississippi health official says Delta surging ‘like a tsunami’
www.theguardian.com
 
IFocus said:
Thats on the money
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And yet it is fascinating some on here propose they have more "knowledge" about Covid and vaccinations than the collective knowledge of the millions of researchers and clinicians in multiple institutions across the globe.

Um, yeah, right.
 
Can you believe this ? It seems many people do ...

America’s Frontline Doctors attorney files lawsuit against U.S. government for 45,000 covid vaccine deaths​


07/21/2021 / By Ethan Huff





Ohio-based attorney Thomas Renz is suing the federal government for pushing “vaccines” for the Wuhan coronavirus (Covid-19) that have reportedly caused at least 45,000 deaths so far.

At a recent conference in Anaheim, Calif., Renz announced that a whistleblower insider submitted a sworn declaration under oath attesting to the fact that the American military-industrial complex is trying to cover up massive death numbers from the jabs that are not being publicly reported.

“I’m filing papers in federal court today,” Renz told a cheering audience – you can watch the clip below.

“Jane Doe gave me some information, she’s an insider, she’s a whistleblower. We are submitting to federal court today, based on a sworn declaration, under threat of perjury this woman attested to this, and she is an expert. We know, based on what she’s said, that there have been at least 45,000 deaths from this vaccine.”

America’s Frontline Doctors attorney files lawsuit against U.S. government for 45,000 covid vaccine deaths

Ohio-based attorney Thomas Renz is suing the federal government for pushing “vaccines” for the Wuhan coronavirus (Covid-19) that have reportedly caused at least 45,000 deaths so far. At a recent conference in Anaheim, Calif., Renz announced that a whistleblower insider submitted a sworn...
vaccinedeaths.com
 
Haven't read this , but it's not so hard to believe . You'll find many well known news sites out there with similar stuff. And it makes sense too. And people who should be heard are getting censored. Resembles totalitarian control.
 
grah33 said:
Haven't read this , but it's not so hard to believe . You'll find many well known news sites out there with similar stuff. And it makes sense too. And people who should be heard are getting censored. Resembles totalitarian control.
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I posted two separate analysis which demonstrated this was a lie. I could have found even more. They went through the figures carefully. Check them out.

This was a LIE. The fact that this lie has been repeated and repeated and repeated does not make it true.

The idea that it somehow "makes sense" is nonsense.
 
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