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Some good news from our Prime Minister Scott Morrison.

"Some 175,000 vaccine doses were administered yesterday, that is a new record and it means in the space of just three days 500,000 doses of the vaccine had been administered across the country," Mr Morrison said.

"That means that already this month there have been just shy of 2 million vaccines, just shy of 2 million already in the month of July."

Maybe we can have everyone who wants to be fully vaccinated by the end of December and ready to open up?
 
Knobby22 said:
Some good news from our Prime Minister Scott Morrison.

"Some 175,000 vaccine doses were administered yesterday, that is a new record and it means in the space of just three days 500,000 doses of the vaccine had been administered across the country," Mr Morrison said.

"That means that already this month there have been just shy of 2 million vaccines, just shy of 2 million already in the month of July."

Maybe we can have everyone who wants to be fully vaccinated by the end of December and ready to open up?
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Agreed - good news.
But look where we stand with regard to vaccination rates in other countries:
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Surely we can do as well as Canada which has been running over twice our rate from the outset.
 

U.S. COVID Deaths Are Rising Again. Experts Call It A 'Pandemic Of The Unvaccinated'​


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U.S. COVID Deaths Are Rising Again. Experts Call It A 'Pandemic Of The Unvaccinated'

Reversing a months-long downward trend, deaths from COVID-19 have begun rising steadily this week. More than 99% of the recent fatalities were among people who had not been vaccinated.
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"Unvaccinated Americans account for virtually all recent COVID-19 hospitalizations and deaths," said Jeff Zients, the White House COVID-19 response coordinator. "Each COVID-19 death is tragic, and those happening now are even more tragic because they are preventable."

More than 99% of recent deaths were among the unvaccinated, infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci said earlier this month on NBC's Meet the Press, while Walensky noted on Friday that unvaccinated people accounted for over 97% of hospitalizations.
 
I can't believe the twin brothers who were the removalists that spread Corona through Victoria went into isolation with their mother, now have had their mother die from it in her 50s!

Why didn't she go to hospital?
I think they really thought it was just a bad flu and everyone is overreacting. Completely reckless idiots.
 
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Knobby22 said:
I can't believe the twin brothers who were the removalists that spread Corona through Victoria went into isolation with their mother, now have had their mother die from it in her 50s!

Why didn't she go to hospital?
I think they really thought it was just a bad flu and everyone is overreacting. Completely reckless idiots.
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I hope they get jail time.
 
wayneL said:
Watch to the end

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If you remember, Trump was going to rush it out BEFORE the testing took place.

He got blocked by the drug companies involved who refused to do it.

Last point is a good one, would you take it if Trumps not taking it?

Once the testing did take place Trump was first in line to get the vaccine as was his right as President.

I'm disappointed you fell for this.
Quotes taken out of context aimed at the gullible. You know most of the deaths in the USA are from the unvaccinated, ordinary poorly educated people who fall for this crap while all the Fox staff(for instance), the wealthy and well connected have taken the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines.

It is getting personal for me. My cousin in Mildura who has health issues pulled out at the last minute from getting the Pfizer vaccine because she got convinced by the local cafe owner of all people that if she took it she would be monitored through the 5G network.
 
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Knobby22 said:
If you remember, Trump was going to rush it out BEFORE the testing took place.

He got blocked by the drug companies involved who refused to do it.

Last point is a good one, would you take it if Trumps not taking it?

Once the testing did take place Trump was first in line to get the vaccine as was his right as President.

I'm disappointed you fell for this.
Quotes taken out of context aimed at the gullible. You know most of the deaths in the USA are from the unvaccinated, ordinary poorly educated people who fall for this crap while all the Fox staff(for instance), the wealthy and well connected have taken the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines.

It is getting personal for me. My cousin in Mildura who has health issues pulled out at the last minute from getting the Pfizer vaccine because she got convinced by the local cafe owner of all people that if she took it she would be monitored through the 5G network.
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Look Knobby, if you are terrified of this virus as you clearly are, get vaccinated. If the risk reward (side effects Vs benefit) adds up, do it.

My point in posting the vid is not about the Vax itself, it is pointing out the politics surrounding it.

For me it means digging deeper and like I have already said, I would take a Vax if the r/r added up for me. At this point however, I am trying to sort the facts from the politics and misinformation on both sides of the argument.

Incidentally, a have a lot of clients in the medical field. Many of them (though not all) are also hesitant for similar reasons, with some being a hard no.

Free choice bro.
 
Knobby22 said:
If you remember, Trump was going to rush it out BEFORE the testing took place.

He got blocked by the drug companies involved who refused to do it.

Last point is a good one, would you take it if Trumps not taking it?

Once the testing did take place Trump was first in line to get the vaccine as was his right as President.

I'm disappointed you fell for this.
Quotes taken out of context aimed at the gullible. You know most of the deaths in the USA are from the unvaccinated, ordinary poorly educated people who fall for this crap while all the Fox staff(for instance), the wealthy and well connected have taken the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines.

It is getting personal for me. My cousin in Mildura who has health issues pulled out at the last minute from getting the Pfizer vaccine because she got convinced by the local cafe owner of all people that if she took it she would be monitored through the 5G network.
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Some people just don't get it @Knobby22, and idiots who tout the 5G conspiracy do serious damage to our education system!
Then you have the folk who ponder if anti-vaxxers are denied services shouldn't pay taxes. Tell that the the parents of children who have died or were hospitalised because the anti-vaxxers kids gave them a deadly dose of disease at child care. Les emotively, the logic is palpably poor in that the US experience is proof positive that anti-vaxxers are disproportionately impacting the health care system. It is reminiscent of the argument about why smokers are heavily taxed.

The separate issue of risk reward ratio is an important consideration. Given the death rate for people under 20 years of age, it's a line ball as to whether vaccination is safer than the disease. However, it needs to be balanced by the propensity for those young people to spread the disease to their parents/grand parents, and if their other social interactions would exacerbate spread. For older people it will depend on comorbidities, general health, and level of public contact, realising that the reward of vaccination increases at a greater rate with age.

It is intriguing that some people think vaccinations per se are political issues. They are medical science issues. The politicisation of vaccinations is an entirely different matter and has been a huge negative across the globe. If anything in future is likely to again hamper pandemic responses it will be the incompetence of politicians, best demonstrated by most nearly everything Trump did in 2020.
 
Vaccination doesn't stop you from spreading the virus though. I think it minimises the chances you may get it to then spread it. But you are still infectious.

Seems the virus brings on a "I don't care" attitude as was noted in Israel that actually infected those that thought they were safe because of vaccination.

So there is lack of awareness in vaxxed and not vaxxed.
 
wayneL said:
LMAO

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Perhaps they should include their brother attending primary school who can interject after the dumb*** says "but you can still get it" with "yes, you can still get it, but the likelihood of getting it is much lower, so you are less likely to be a spreader". What a moronic clip.
 
Knobby22 said:
If you remember, Trump was going to rush it out BEFORE the testing took place.

He got blocked by the drug companies involved who refused to do it.

Last point is a good one, would you take it if Trumps not taking it?

Once the testing did take place Trump was first in line to get the vaccine as was his right as President.

I'm disappointed you fell for this.
Quotes taken out of context aimed at the gullible. You know most of the deaths in the USA are from the unvaccinated, ordinary poorly educated people who fall for this crap while all the Fox staff(for instance), the wealthy and well connected have taken the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines.

It is getting personal for me. My cousin in Mildura who has health issues pulled out at the last minute from getting the Pfizer vaccine because she got convinced by the local cafe owner of all people that if she took it she would be monitored through the 5G network.
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Wow! That is not only disturbing to read but sad for your cousin.

(With tongue planted firmly in cheek)
Any chance of getting some hot stock tips from that cafe owner?
I mean, this person is obviously "...in the know."
 

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