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Coronavirus (COVID-19/SARS-CoV-2) outbreak discussion

Will the "Corona Virus" turn into a worldwide epidemic or fizzle out?

  • Yes

    Votes: 37 49.3%

  • No

    Votes: 9 12.0%

  • Bigger than SARS, but not worldwide epidemic (Black Death/bubonic plague)

    Votes: 25 33.3%

  • Undecided

    Votes: 4 5.3%
  • Total voters
    75
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I'd certainly expect a reduction in fatalities from vehicular and industrial accidents. But those would need to be contrasted against , increased deaths from adverse vaccine reactions, excessive alcohol consumption, suicides, domestic violence etc.

In the (somewhat unlikely) event my own circle of acquaintances, were to be seen as representative of the broader community, excess deaths would be up!

Anyhow, I am generally sceptical of quoted statisitics unless published transparently with raw data and associated assumptions/projections clearly defined.
 
Looks like Canada are having trouble, with truckers unhappy with mandates.

Ottawa mayor declares state of emergency amid paralysing anti-mandate protests

Due to security concerns, PM Justin Trudeau and his family left their downtown home last weekend and his location has not been disclosed.
www.theage.com.au
Ottawa: Ottawa Mayor Jim Watson on Monday AEDT declared a state of emergency to help deal with an unprecedented 10-day occupation by protesting truckers that has shut down much of the core of the Canadian capital.
“(This) reflects the serious danger and threat to the safety and security of residents posed by the ongoing demonstrations and highlights the need for support from other jurisdictions and levels of government,” he said in a statement.
 
Whodathunkit? The Canucks have more balls than Aussies.

Dusting off my Canadian passport...
 
wayneL said:
Whodathunkit? The Canucks have more balls than Aussies.

Dusting off my Canadian passport...
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Plenty of work for you there, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, when I first heard that I thought it was a bit rude. ?
 
wayneL said:
Whodathunkit? The Canucks have more balls than Aussies.

Dusting off my Canadian passport...
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I listened to some of the "Truckers" speaking the other day. Apparently they intend to stay as long as it takes to get some action from True-doh or whoever can/will make a decision.

Part of the plan of action is to "replace" the current trucker with fresh incoming truckers on a rotating basis. I think one trucker said they have the resources to stay it out for up to 4 years!? (don't quote me, but I think that was the time frame )

Great boost for some of the local economy/food outlets etc you would think.

By all accounts the "protest" has been totally peaceful and the locals, including police etc have been sympathetic to the truckers stance.

Whether people agree or not, it certainly is an historic course of action

 
The actual wording says that tourists, like the states have said for entering some premises, must be fully vaccinated.
ATAGi and the government health bureacrats are going to change the deffinition of fully vaccinated to include at least one booster within a certain time of arrival, and have indicated they will change it every time a new variant comes along.
Mick
 
It's a sham that's why.

We are losing holidaymakers to other countries to such a degree that we may not be able to turn it around.

Meanwhile Australians are wanting 50 jabs to become compliant. In nsw, covid is all but over. Drop the lot and focus on at risk groups. Not on bankrupting the country.
 
I guess as time goes by more accurate info is forthcoming, eventually the truth about all this will come out IMO.

'Broad implications': New study finds 'lasting damage' caused by Covid

Researchers say their findings have 'broad implications on economic productivity and life expectancy'.
au.news.yahoo.com
New research has pointed to the long-term medical affects of contracting Covid-19 with scientists warning governments should expect more cardiovascular problems among society including heart disease and stroke which could reduce life expectancy.

While the immediate impact of acute cases of Covid-19 is well understood, researchers say the "post-acute cardiovascular manifestations" are still not well known and comprehensively characterised.

The study, published in the journal Nature Medicine, used a national health database in the United States to analyse more than 153,000 people who contracted Covid-19, as well as using more than 5 million historical controls without evidence of infection.
 
5agh, I see that the Queensland government has got the first stage of the 1000 bed wellcamp quarantine facility open
from Brisbane Times

I am not sure if the writers of this article have been on a different planet or what.
Firstly, unless there are special circumstances, no one get into the country without being vaccinated (just ask Djokovic).
From DFAT
So you have to have got an exemption to travel from the federal government.
Ten people with exemptions.
Maybe they kids bewween 12 and 17 for whom injections are not mandated in all countries.
Who knows, as usual the governments are not forthcoming.
Secondly, the Queensland government are not checking the border between NSW and QLD to see if anyone who flew into NSW or other states do not fit into their categories.
Mick
 
yesterday, the feds released this statement
And of course, not to be outdone, Victoria has announced that you must be Triple Vaxed to enter the state as an international arrival.
So that means most people will come in via Sydney, and like QLD, Victoria will not be checking the intra country borders for "illegals".
Politics, pure and simple.
Mick
 
Arguments against the compulsory fitting of winter tires in Canada

I refuse to put on winter tires because:
• It’s my car, my choice, my freedom.
• The effectiveness of winter tires is not proven, except by studies carried out by the manufacturers (like I’m supposed to trust them).
• My neighbor Bob had an accident even after putting on winter tires.
• Some drivers are already on their 3rd set of tires, which proves their ineffectiveness.
• We do not know what the tires are made of.
• The tire manufacturers scare us with winter just to enrich themselves.
• In fact, I read on the internet that the tire giants invented snow and spread it at night when you sleep.
• If I have winter tires, the government can track me in the snow.
Educate yourself, open your eyes, stop being sheep!
This year, I say no to winter tires!
 
Did you forget the link to an ABC or Guardian article?

When you put on winter tyres you can see immediately the difference in grip while driving (if driving on the right surfaces). You can try winter tyres and then take them off if you don't like them and your car has zero risk of being damaged. You also have alternatives like snow chains, or driving cars with AWD as other mechanisms to cope with difficult winter driving conditions. There is zero chance the winter tyres are suddenly going to block your fuel lines and blow up your engine. And there is probably over 50 years of research on winter tyres.
 
Unless it's mandated that you have to fit those tires up your ar5e then the above is a stupid.
 


That paper kills its just the flu narrative massive study cohort wise
 
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