Chris Mainwaring Dead at 41

[hangseng]

hangseng,

In order to live up to your own standards of evidence, can you point out some instances of these transgressions in this thread?

Thanks

Start with looking at the quotations in may last few posts Wayne.

If I was to suggest a breakout of a stock you would want some form of evidence. Where is the evidence of even the slightest of truth in some of the statements being made here?

When in the regs we termed this a kangaroo court.

 

[Gspot]

The story I hear from friends close to the family, is that he lost all his money on a business deal...got SCREWED big time! They were renting.
Poor guy. Young kids and wife, with the lifestyle to live upto, and no cash at 41. Pretty bloody stressful.

 

[wayneL]

Start with looking at the quotations in may last few posts Wayne.

If I was to suggest a breakout of a stock you would want some form of evidence. Where is the evidence of even the slightest of truth in some of the statements being made here?

When in the regs we termed this a kangaroo court.

A break out of a stock is self evident.

Regarding Chris M., like I said before, I hear what you're saying loud and clear, but speculation regarding his demise is very much in the public domain. You can't stop people discussing that speculation.

I don't think anything here is beyond speculation and nobody has convicted or sentenced him, so not really a kangaroo court at all. More like Chinese whispers IMO.

The truth will win out in the end, as always.

Personally, I am waiting for some hard facts too, but in the meantime speculation reigns... human nature I'm afraid.

 

[It's Snake Pliskin]

The story I hear from friends close to the family, is that he lost all his money on a business deal...got SCREWED big time! They were renting.
Poor guy. Young kids and wife, with the lifestyle to live upto, and no cash at 41. Pretty bloody stressful.

A totally rubbish post.

What does it matter?

Joe I support the deletion of the thread. There is free speech and total disrespect.

 

[wayneL]

A totally rubbish post.

What does it matter?

Joe I support the deletion of the thread. There is free speech and total disrespect.

There will be many many deleted threads then (including many religeously based threads )... where do we draw the line Snake? Any thread that contains some perceived sleight against anyone gets deleted? C'mon!!!

 

[It's Snake Pliskin]

There will be many many deleted threads then (including many religeously based threads )... where do we draw the line Snake? Any thread that contains some perceived sleight against anyone gets deleted? C'mon!!!

Wayne feel free to delete anything of mine. That I have no problem with. Maybe general chat should be scrapped.

Regards
Snake

 

[Sean K]

Wayne feel free to delete anything of mine. That I have no problem with. Maybe general chat should be scrapped.

Regards
Snake

I sence tongue in cheek, but canning general chat would be extremely detrimental to the site IMO.

In regard to this thread, I can imagine there could be some personal connections to CM, or people may have experienced a similar loss, but that doesn't mean the rest of us can't discuss it with the available information.

Others may feel it disrespectful to his family, but that is what you get when you are a personality. Your life is on show, and if you reap the benefits from it, you also reap the negative aspects, which this is one. This is public interest.

I'm sure a Shane Warne mobile phone thread or Princess Diana death conspiracy thread wouldn't cop the same flack. Unique situations, but same boat.

 

[It's Snake Pliskin]

I sence tongue in cheek, but canning general chat would be extremely detrimental to the site IMO.

In regard to this thread, I can imagine there could be some personal connections to CM, or people may have experienced a similar loss, but that doesn't mean the rest of us can't discuss it with the available information.

Others may feel it disrespectful to his family, but that is what you get when you are a personality. Your life is on show, and if you reap the benefits from it, you also reap the negative aspects, which this is one. This is public interest.

I'm sure a Shane Warne mobile phone thread or Princess Diana death conspiracy thread wouldn't cop the same flack. Unique situations, but same boat.

Kennas,

Thanks for the balanced view. Yes tongue in cheek it was.

I have no answers and will let it rest there.

regards
Snake

 

[Kimosabi]

Meanwhile back to the facts:

Hunt for Eagle's 'drug supplier'

By Paige Taylor
October 04, 2007 01:00am

POLICE yesterday began interviewing prominent West Coast Eagles and media personalities in their bid to find out who supplied Chris Mainwaring with the drugs his father believes killed him.

Troubled Eagles star midfielder Ben Cousins was interviewed for two hours at his Perth home, while Mainwaring's Seven Network colleague and former West Coast teammate Adrian Barich was questioned at the headquarters of the Major Crime Squad about Mainwaring's demeanour on Sunday.

Barich had interviewed the father of two about a charity kickboxing fight with cricketer Justin Langer that would have been held tonight.

Barich is not under any suspicion, but police believed he may have been able to give them an insight into the 41-year-old's state of mind on the day he died. "He trained very, very hard and he seemed very, very weary," Barich told The Australian.

Mainwaring's father, Hub, told The Australian he was certain pathology tests would find his son had taken drugs in his tumultuous last hours, when neighbours heard him yelling "help me".

"I don't think he done it deliberately, that's all," he said. "They will probably find something in Chris, I'm sure they will ... I don't think he just died of a seizure from over-exercise."

He said Cousins had met Mainwaring's older brother Glenn in Perth yesterday, which the family appreciated.

"He is a top little bloke," Mr Mainwaring said of Cousins, who he said was trying to help Mainwaring when he visited his home on Sunday night.
Mainwaring wanted to be liked and was deeply affected by conflict, his father said, and was wounded after falling out with the club's officials earlier in the year when he inadvertently leaked a story about Cousins to a Seven colleague.

Mr Mainwaring said it triggered a depression that Mainwaring never recovered from, but he was also troubled by other things, including difficulties with wife Rani and at work.

He had been told to take a break after a broadcast on September 22 in which he slurred and stumbled.

Friends, family and footballers paid tribute. "I will always remember you in my heart. Thank you for being my Dad. I will miss you very much. Lots of love, Maddy," said his eight-year-old daughter.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22526957-2,00.html

 

[Prospector]

Hang Seng, the very few, known to be erroneous, things which have been posted on this thread have been quickly rebutted by others.

His own father is in the public domain, stating he believes that a mixture of illegal substances will be shown to be his cause of death.

His behaviour in the last few hours does not demonstrate the clinical behaviours of depression, although he may have had that in the past.

He had been asked to take leave from broadcasting because of slurred speech. You think that's ok?
He exposed himself to public questioning about his behaviour the instant he became a media journalist. He comments about others in his articles, yet you say now, he is above us questioning him? Sheesh!

He has been convicted of past drug use.

Good for you having 2 sensible adults as children; maybe you were their role model but other kids dont have a sensible role model so they look to their heroes for behaviours - like football and cricket players. Even the West Coast President (could be someone else in authority there) stated in the public domain that there is a culture of endemic drug use.

Everyone on this forum feels very badly for his family; some feel badly for him too.

 

[hangseng]

The story I hear from friends close to the family, is that he lost all his money on a business deal...got SCREWED big time! They were renting.
Poor guy. Young kids and wife, with the lifestyle to live up to, and no cash at 41. Pretty bloody stressful.

Keep discussion if you must but come on, this and others like it are just plain low life rubbish. This has lowered this site into the lowest form of humanity.

If ASF supports this and many others I have pointed out then that is it for me on ASF.

 

[professor_frink]

Keep discussion if you must but come on, this and others like it are just plain low life rubbish. This has lowered this site into the lowest form of humanity.

If ASF supports this and many others I have pointed out then that is it for me on ASF.

hangseng,

This is the general chat section. If you don't like the discussion taking place, then feel free not to read this thread, and stick to the main reason this site is here- to discuss stocks.

 

[hangseng]

hangseng,

This is the general chat section. If you don't like the discussion taking place, then feel free not to read this thread, and stick to the main reason this site is here- to discuss stocks.

General chat? I enjoy general chat as much as others but this is simply gutter trash at best!

I also defend my right to defend someone who gave so much back to society and is unable to defend himself.

 

[professor_frink]

General chat? I enjoy general chat as much as others but this is simply gutter trash at best!

I also defend my right to defend someone who gave so much back to society and is unable to defend himself.

You are quite right. You have the right to defend someone else if that's what you want to do. However, when you make these kinds of comments to other ASF members-

People (I use that term loosely).....

Have society or none of you any respect at all?

I rest my case with the absolute rubbish and low life lying that this thread has produced.

Oh so holier than thou you all are.

Disgusting display by the lot of you.

you are getting very close to being in breach of ASF's code of conduct. It would be appreciated if you refrain from making any more comments like this in the future. Trying to defend someone by attacking everyone else isn't the best way to go about things. If you are unable to mount a defense for someone without attacking other members, then don't post in the thread anymore.

 

[Rafa]

Trying to defend someone by attacking everyone else isn't the best way to go about things. If you are unable to mount a defense for someone without attacking other members, then don't post in the thread anymore.

if you can't mount a reasonable arguement, attacking the source as being biased or ignorant, is now considered fair play... just look at hockey attacking the authors of the report on AWA's as a case in point, or the various attacks on the scientists either both for/against global warming... apparently some of their funding came from people with hidden agendas!

Can't blame Hangseng... attacking the person as a form of defence is a now common practice... I have noticed this on almost every contentious thread in the ASF general forum...

gotta love free speech....

Anyway, back to the topic.... (well, not exactly on topic but more related to the views shared by duckman and co... )

Did anyone see Mal Brough's comments last night about the media and maybe the public being fixated on a 'sexy' issues when there are bigger issues at stake?

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22527796-11949,00.html

Mr Brough this week visited the remote West Australian Aboriginal town of Kalumburu, where about 15 men, including community leaders, were charged earlier this year with child sex abuse offences.

During his visit Mr Brough learned police were investigating allegations that several children, aged 11 to 15, had abused eight younger children. Several have since been charged.

Delivering an address at Melbourne University last night, Mr Brough said he was "appalled" news of the alleged abuse did not make the front page of every newspaper in the country and dominate the TV news for days.

"What did was (abandoned baby) Catherine being left on the steps of a hospital here in Melbourne day after day, or the child that has disappeared in (Portugal) making a half-hour television program, yet these children don't actually count enough," he said.

"Now we have to confront ourselves and say, why is that?"

Mr Brough said the Australian public had to be able to confront the depravity and dysfunction rife in so many indigenous communities.

 

[chops_a_must]

Geez... spot the Eagles supporters...

I don't know why Eagles fans are so precious about what gets reported. Just about every club has had trial by media in recent times, claims of favouritism are clearly from a naive perspective.

Lets look at this rationally...

We have had family affairs at Carlton run in the media. Both marital and otherwise.

We have had a network engaging in Illegal activities to gain players records. And those that claim that was shut up need a lesson. They can't report on it because the information was obtained ILLEGALLY.

Tarrant was suspended after a trial by media, when it appears that the incident was itself in self defence. We have also had WAFL players causing problems which have been attributed to Freo players. Totally incorrect.

We have seen a player have his reputation put through the ringer for placing a $5 bet.

Should we keep going on? Those that claim the Eagles are being harshly treated need to open their eyes...

And yes, Mainy was convicted on drugs charges... I don't understand the problem. Cousins has been interviewed by police. This is not innuendo, it's fact.

 

[astor]

"People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought which they seldom use.”

Soren Kierkegaard Danish Philosopher 1813-1855

 

[hangseng]

Geez... spot the Eagles supporters...

I don't know why Eagles fans are so precious about what gets reported. Just about every club has had trial by media in recent times, claims of favouritism are clearly from a naive perspective.

Lets look at this rationally...

We have had family affairs at Carlton run in the media. Both marital and otherwise.

We have had a network engaging in Illegal activities to gain players records. And those that claim that was shut up need a lesson. They can't report on it because the information was obtained ILLEGALLY.

Tarrant was suspended after a trial by media, when it appears that the incident was itself in self defence. We have also had WAFL players causing problems which have been attributed to Freo players. Totally incorrect.

We have seen a player have his reputation put through the ringer for placing a $5 bet.

Should we keep going on? Those that claim the Eagles are being harshly treated need to open their eyes...

And yes, Mainy was convicted on drugs charges... I don't understand the problem. Cousins has been interviewed by police. This is not innuendo, it's fact.

Don't see the problem? Then it seems we have completely different values.

"Quote:
Originally Posted by Gspot
The story I hear from friends close to the family, is that he lost all his money on a business deal...got SCREWED big time! They were renting.
Poor guy. Young kids and wife, with the lifestyle to live up to, and no cash at 41. Pretty bloody stressful. "

 

[chops_a_must]

Don't see the problem? Then it seems we have completely different values.

"Quote:
Originally Posted by Gspot
The story I hear from friends close to the family, is that he lost all his money on a business deal...got SCREWED big time! They were renting.
Poor guy. Young kids and wife, with the lifestyle to live up to, and no cash at 41. Pretty bloody stressful. "

I just can't see an issue with that. It's hardly an unsympathetic statement...

 

[explod]

General chat? I enjoy general chat as much as others but this is simply gutter trash at best!

I also defend my right to defend someone who gave so much back to society and is unable to defend himself.

I think you may be a bit over sensitive. From my reading, everyone is saddenned for the loss of Chris, his family, supporters and friends.

The tragedy discussion on the forums is a catalyst for discussion of social ideas. It is great that in these times via the internet we can have public discussion from which we all learn.

In my own post (yesterday I think)I point out that Chris from a child is a product of the world around for which we are all equally responsible for by our actions and deeds. I suppose as a Grandfather, the greatest contribution to my immortality is the example I set to the younger ones, they carry the torch they are handed. And I am not as a puritan, I was once a wild young shearer and both my sons had thier shares of misshaps as we all do along the way.

Yes we maybe have to agree to disagree on occasions, but the open discussion can only be to mutual benefit.