Chris Mainwaring Dead at 41

Prospector said:

OK, let's wait until the facts are out. But if the facts confirm reckless drug/alcohol binge consumption, then I trust you will not take the 'head in the sand' - 'he was a good guy, let's not speak ill of the recently departed' kind of approach to excuse it. Because that is absolutely the wrong message to send our kids. And we have done too much of this in past - no wonder kids get conflicting messages from the guiding generations!

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Duckman#72 said:

Great post Prospector.

Yes - sure it was a shame. Yes - we need to wait for the full details to emerge. But there are some things that we already know. It has been confirmed by eye witness reports that he had been out on the street causing a disturbance early in the day. Police also confirmed that they had spoken to Chris and he told them that he had been using cannabis and ecstacy earlier in the day. What innuendo are you referring to?

I am sick and tired of the "tragic shame" approach afforded to footballers and other sporting heros when dealing with drugs. So many columns in the paper bring to everyone's attention what a "wonderful rogue", "inspiration footballer" and how he was "troubled and misunderstood".

Was he depressed? Was he mentally ill?...............he most probably was. But that doesn't make him a hero. To me the heroes are the tens of thousands of ordinary Dad's around Australia, that are landscape gardners, bankers, butchers, teachers and garbo's, all with wives, children and mortgages that suffer from mental illness, who all cope. Some cope by seeking counselling, some struggle on one day at a time, some take medication, but what they all have in common is they have learned to survive. For their own sake and for the sake of their wives and children.

Certainly there are trappings and pitfalls associated with being a successful sportsperson - but please don't post on here and tell the everyday Dad's who manage to cope that Chris Mainwaring had it any tougher than them. Mental illness affect's every section in the community - please don't just glorify the tragedy for sportsmen. Moreover - let's not be tolerant of drug use for the famous. That is a slap in the face for the everyman.

Duckman

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Duckman#72 said:

Certainly there are trappings and pitfalls associated with being a successful sportsperson - but please don't post on here and tell the everyday Dad's who manage to cope that Chris Mainwaring had it any tougher than them. Mental illness affect's every section in the community - please don't just glorify the tragedy for sportsmen. Moreover - let's not be tolerant of drug use for the famous. That is a slap in the face for the everyman.

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josh82 said:

Chops:
2) An example of Cousins was made by banning him from playing for x number of weeks, sending him off to rehab in California which they supposedly funded? How come Kerr and other players have not been treated the same way? Regardless of whether the punishment is right or wrong at least show some consistency..Plenty of things in AFL really aren't consistent though (how many times Collingwood travel out Melb compared to other teams just to name one..)

I assume that you are really insinuating that the AFL barely made an example of Cousins. I agree 100%. I think Demetriou is an absolute joke, and i think the way they handled the situation was a joke.

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Duckman#72 said:

Great post Prospector.

Yes - sure it was a shame. Yes - we need to wait for the full details to emerge. But there are some things that we already know. It has been confirmed by eye witness reports that he had been out on the street causing a disturbance early in the day. Police also confirmed that they had spoken to Chris and he told them that he had been using cannabis and ecstacy earlier in the day. What innuendo are you referring to?

I am sick and tired of the "tragic shame" approach afforded to footballers and other sporting heros when dealing with drugs. So many columns in the paper bring to everyone's attention what a "wonderful rogue", "inspiration footballer" and how he was "troubled and misunderstood".

Was he depressed? Was he mentally ill?...............he most probably was. But that doesn't make him a hero. To me the heroes are the tens of thousands of ordinary Dad's around Australia, that are landscape gardners, bankers, butchers, teachers and garbo's, all with wives, children and mortgages that suffer from mental illness, who all cope. Some cope by seeking counselling, some struggle on one day at a time, some take medication, but what they all have in common is they have learned to survive. For their own sake and for the sake of their wives and children.

Certainly there are trappings and pitfalls associated with being a successful sportsperson - but please don't post on here and tell the everyday Dad's who manage to cope that Chris Mainwaring had it any tougher than them. Mental illness affect's every section in the community - please don't just glorify the tragedy for sportsmen. Moreover - let's not be tolerant of drug use for the famous. That is a slap in the face for the everyman.

Duckman

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whitta27 said:

I've just heard a rumor that Gardiner and Cousins will be sacked today by the West Coast Eagles for drug related issues.. - That came from an AFL player from another club.. -

COuld be just a rumor. we'l have to wait and see

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Duckman#72 said:

Certainly there are trappings and pitfalls associated with being a successful sportsperson - but please don't post on here and tell the everyday Dad's who manage to cope that Chris Mainwaring had it any tougher than them. Mental illness affect's every section in the community - please don't just glorify the tragedy for sportsmen. Moreover - let's not be tolerant of drug use for the famous. That is a slap in the face for the everyman.

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astor said:

It’s sad how a serious topic such as drugs seems only to be debated within the footy/sports media forum. Such a waste. Drugs are a massive issue within our society that deserve to be considered on a mature level. Pontificating on the rights and wrongs of our beloved football clubs and the young men/boys that make them up seems only to promote a trivial, tabloid and shallow dialogue on the issue. Let’s get real here people focusing the argument on a select group of testosterone fuelled, risk taking young men who are able to live an excessive life style that also lends it’s self to a certain degree of arrogance/confidence is, well, ignorant-unintelligent-and bitchy.

R I P Chris Mainwaring

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whitta27 said:

I've just heard a rumor that Gardiner and Cousins will be sacked today by the West Coast Eagles for drug related issues.. - That came from an AFL player from another club.. -

COuld be just a rumor. we'l have to wait and see

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Duckman#72 said:

Great post Prospector.

Yes - sure it was a shame. Yes - we need to wait for the full details to emerge. But there are some things that we already know. It has been confirmed by eye witness reports that he had been out on the street causing a disturbance early in the day. Police also confirmed that they had spoken to Chris and he told them that he had been using cannabis and ecstacy earlier in the day. What innuendo are you referring to?

I am sick and tired of the "tragic shame" approach afforded to footballers and other sporting heros when dealing with drugs. So many columns in the paper bring to everyone's attention what a "wonderful rogue", "inspiration footballer" and how he was "troubled and misunderstood".

Was he depressed? Was he mentally ill?...............he most probably was. But that doesn't make him a hero. To me the heroes are the tens of thousands of ordinary Dad's around Australia, that are landscape gardners, bankers, butchers, teachers and garbo's, all with wives, children and mortgages that suffer from mental illness, who all cope. Some cope by seeking counselling, some struggle on one day at a time, some take medication, but what they all have in common is they have learned to survive. For their own sake and for the sake of their wives and children.

Certainly there are trappings and pitfalls associated with being a successful sportsperson - but please don't post on here and tell the everyday Dad's who manage to cope that Chris Mainwaring had it any tougher than them. Mental illness affect's every section in the community - please don't just glorify the tragedy for sportsmen. Moreover - let's not be tolerant of drug use for the famous. That is a slap in the face for the everyman.

Duckman

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Gspot said:

Mainy was employed by Channel 7 Perth for the last 10 years. Maybe we should look at the drug culture in media, and go random test people employed by Channel 7? Actors included.

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kennas said:

Yes, I think the boys in blue will have some questions for BC. Worst case, he's provided the e that's killed him. Golly...

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time will tell - hard to keep "cause of death" a secret these days, even if you wanted to.

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2020hindsight said:

HS
I take it you object to speculation on the matter of whether drugs were involved -

presumably if drugs are found to be the cause, you will permit some discussion around the topic - who knows ? it may warn others

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hangseng said:

I find a lot more than that here distasteful.

Blatant lying, double standards and complete disrespect for starters!

Ignorance I can forgive, the rest I simply cannot.

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