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Yep, my thoughts exactly. Looking at their showy presentation, planned capital expenditure equals everything they have got including cash in hand.Halba said:hello all. its definitely a placement of some sort. Look at the amount of capital required in the presentation. Money doesn't grow on trees people.
BHP, ZFX, TZN, ect... have recovered from the recent negative activity. CBH has dropped further.Halba said:Umike this is negative short term. Bear in mind zinc is in a seasonal slump and is no longer in deficit.
Of course considering they have a pretty good pipeline of projects fine long term.
I don't hold CBH.
jollyfrog said:Hey Stan 101 try cvn they have a trading halt untill 22/3
Umike: BHP, ZFX, TZN, ect... have recovered from the recent negative activity. CBH has dropped further.
UMike: I hold a shyte load.
Halba said:Hi UMike. I'm not sure whether you should compare bhp,zfx to CBH. For one, BHP is a goliath and has very good commodity spread, longer mine lifes, lower costs. Its a great company and I have some invested. Its going up because copper has recovered significantly. Its also a blue chip. Also ZFX is a medium cost producer hence still will make good money, pay good dividends at lower zinc levels. Also it hasn't really recovered, the chart shows it is struggling with $16.50 resistance.
TZN have just got their mine approval, this is why they recovered. They've been waiting a few yrs for their approvals. Not fair to compare with CBH, as TZN mkt cap only $150m.
CBH looks like a victim of its past problems, and high cost base of production(its probably the highest cost zinc metal producer on the market, with Perilya)
Obviously can't advise as i don't know how much you have relative to your portfolio, or your entry level/how long you have been in(it has appreciated from 25c since the mine problem). But consider some risk management in the future. Don't convert into a long term loser. Few reasons i did not invest in CBH was the management team(Besley and Wall in BMA gold failure), and the position on the zinc cost per pound curve. But they are aggressively going about their business and i like their vision.
LME FOCUS - Zinc price under pressure, as visible inventory builds up
BaseMetals.com
Zinc prices fell to their lowest for just over a month on the LME on Wednesday, due to warehouse inventories rising to their highest since late-October last year, and further stock increases are expected.
Warehouse stocks leapt 5,050 tonnes, or five percent, to 106,800 tonnes, to their highest since October 31 last year. Today's increase reflected an unusual shipment into Dubai, but further stock rises are expected in general, as off-warrant stockpiles are registered.
However, the stock build-up is somewhat illusory, as much of the recently-warranted metal is 'window-dressing' and not easily available.
"It has been put there for show only," an LME floor trader said.
Since the start of this month, LME zinc stocks have risen 13,275 tonnes, or 14.2 percent. A long-running inventory downtrend bottomed out in December 2006, when stocks fell to 84,825 tonnes, the lowest since 1991.
Traders said the warranting over the last week is part of a 15,000 increase. This is metal which has been off-warrant for some time.
"However, it is highly unlikely that this material will show up in the clearing as it almost certainly forms part of a 'term financing swap'," another trader said.
An international merchant is said to be 'parking' metal in some regions which are less easy to remove metal from -- Singapore and Johor, as well as Dubai. This shows up in reported stocks and depresses prices on the LME. Prices fell three percent on Wednesday to $3,120 a tonne, down $100 from Tuesday.
The inventory operation may also be designed to influence ongoing annual TC/RC (treatment charges/refining costs) negotiations between producers and smelters.
No benchmark has been set as yet, but a level of $300 a tonne is being favoured.
goldman said:Finding out whether someone had inside info before the halt of trade was made public because there was a mil and a half shares on offer for 45 after end of trade tuesday. considering the last price was 505 and the last bid was 52
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